Complaint regarding (non)existent PDF soccer moderator activity

Cinque didn't even bother to appeal the ban. Honestly, advocacy doesn't carry much weight if you aren't actually talking to the person involved; when we're weighing whether to lift or reduce a penalty, we really need to understand the user's perspective and their reasoning.

Anyway, thanks for the links, but moving forward, it would be super helpful if you could include at least one direct link to the actual subject of the appeal—like a profile or the specific post in question. You spelled out the username in a few different ways, so I had to play detective just to figure out who I was supposed to be looking for! 🙂

rustydrifter10 said:Cinque didn't even complain about the ban. Honestly, playing lawyer doesn't mean much if you aren't actually talking to the person involved. When we're deciding whether to lift or shorten a penalty, the most important thing is hearing the user's side of the story and their reasoning.

First off, thanks for a sensible response.
The logic here only holds water if this user is a habitual troublemaker. But this was his very first time slipping into an ad hominem argument, and he was hit with the maximum penalty immediately. There’s zero evidence to suggest he’d keep acting like this.

By the way, thanks for the links, but in the future, it would be helpful to include at least one direct link to the subject of the appeal—like a profile or the specific post in question. You spelled his handle three different ways, so I had to play detective just to figure out who we were even talking about. 🙂

His outburst isn't what's being appealed; he earned the punishment and he's serving it. The only issue here is whether the severity of the sentence is justified, given his clean track record until now.

rustydrifter10 said:Cinque didn't even complain about the ban. Honestly, trying to advocate for someone doesn't mean much if you aren't actually talking to them—we need to hear their side of the story before we can even think about reducing a penalty...

He didn't complain because he's too damn proud to go begging for mercy just to get back on the boards. Not everyone wants to play that game—it’s totally understandable—so when people noticed he was staying quiet, they stepped up and started a petition to lighten his sentence.

It’s actually pretty cool that people are looking out for one another like that. But the best part? The whole initiative was spearheaded by a guy who is usually Blancos Cinkve's biggest rival.
It's like seeing a hardcore MAGA supporter suddenly standing up for some woke activist—totally wild...😁

ruggedjackal46 said:First off, thanks for actually giving me a straight answer for once!
Look, the second thing is this—it would actually make sense if Rezon was one of those guys on the forum who’s always looking for a fight or constantly stirring the pot. But this was his very first time ever dropping down to that level of petty, ad hominem bickering, and he gets hit with the hammer immediately with the harshest penalty possible. There isn't even a hint of any prior trouble to suggest he was going to keep acting like that.

I totally get where you're coming from on that point, I really do. It’s just my way of saying that if there’s even a tiny window of opportunity to have a penalty overturned or at least scaled back—no matter what the reasoning might be—it’s probably not going to happen unless you actually step up and file an appeal.

Larry Fox5 said:He didn't actually reach out to appeal the ban, mostly because he’s just too proud to go crawling back and begging for some kind of mercy just to get his posting privileges back on the forum.

It honestly feels like someone is being asked to crawl on their hands and knees just to get their penalty reviewed or potentially overturned. Look, if someone thinks a sanction is way out of line, they should just open a thread, lay out the facts, and briefly explain why they think the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Once they do that, we can take a look at the situation and see what’s actually going on. 🤷

Larry Fox5 said:Honestly, if you think about it, that’s actually something worth celebrating. It shows that people genuinely give a damn about one another and that there's a real sense of looking out for each other in this country.

I’m definitely on board with that sentiment. Honestly, there’s nothing like getting an outside perspective once in a while to shake things up, but at the end of the day, you really need to talk directly to the person involved—even if, let's be real, that isn't always strictly necessary to get the job done.

Larry Fox5 said:The absolute best part about this whole thing? The initiative was actually cooked up by a colleague of mine from the track team, who just happens to be a massive, die-hard rival of Blancos Cinkve.
That would be like asking some hardcore traditionalist to go out and defend a radical woke activist—it just doesn't make any sense. 😁

😳

Charles Roberts33 said:Look, we didn't want to jump the gun. We knew he deserved some kind of penalty, nothing extreme🤷

We only reacted once it was clear what we were dealing with. We aren't big on posting stuff here; I'd much rather just settle things informally between us without all the drama.

Then why are you causing a scene on the main board and here? Was it really that hard to just wait for TJ to show up and satisfy your curiosity?

ruggedjackal46 said:For crying out loud, we asked a simple question politely, then we asked less politely when nobody answered, and now after being ignored for ten days, you're acting like some badge-heavy authority figure giving lessons you don't even follow yourself. What's your deal? You're just another user on this site; having a different handle doesn't make you an outsider or better than everyone else. Get a grip.

We’re still waiting for a straight answer to a simple question. If this is your "answer," go talk to the mods yourself.

Why are you so worked up?!
I already said I wasn't the one who banned him, so if that's what you're implying, I can't give you a straight answer.
What lessons am I giving? That I pointed out this is the place for these discussions, not the soccer board?

brightpilot6 said:Talk about arrogance. Seriously, acting like you own the place.🙏🤦

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Carl Garcia22 said:I just don't get it—is it really that hard to just admit a mistake was made?

People get called names on the general boards constantly, but now, because of one exemplary user, suddenly it's a permanent ban handed out without any investigation? And this isn't even the first time.

I don't get it either. Was it really that hard to just admit: "Damn, we should've asked here first so someone could actually give us an answer." Come on, just tell me—what was the actual deal with Cinque?
Look at how much of a legend he was; just scroll through his last few posts if you don't believe me. Is that the only reason for the ban, or was there more to it? Only TJ knows for sure. But let’s be real, a model user doesn't write like that. This wasn't just one bad post; anyone who crossed him got served. 🤣

Bryan Adams6 said:So why are you making such a huge deal out of this on the PDF thread and here? Was it really that hard to just wait for TJ to show up and satisfy your curiosity?

Why are you getting all worked up all of a sudden?
I already told you I wasn't the one who banned him, so if that's what you're hinting at, I can't give you a straight answer.
What "lessons" am I sharing? That I pointed out this is the actual place to discuss these things, rather than over on the Soccer board?

We asked about the fate of a fellow member in the thread titled "Agreements, Proposals, and PDF Functioning - Soccer," and for ten days, not one of you said a word—except for the new Kal-El, who apparently has to clean up everyone else's mess. And now you, who were silent as a grave over there, swoop in here to lecture us on "where these discussions should take place"? You’re acting surprised that it’s "hard to wait to satisfy our curiosity," all while having absolutely no clue what’s actually going on. Honestly, you probably would have been better off staying quiet.

ruggedjackal46 said:We asked about what's happening with a fellow user on the "Soccer Subreddit Rules & Logistics" thread, and for ten days, nobody said a word—except for the new Kal-El who apparently has to clean up everyone's mess. Now you swoop in after staying silent just to lecture us on "where these things should be discussed." You’re acting shocked that we’re "anxious for answers," yet you clearly have zero clue what’s actually going on. Honestly, you should've just stayed quiet. It suited you better.

The very first post in that thread you're talking about says this:

The old Soccer Subreddit Rules thread is getting an overhaul soon and will split into two pinned topics. The main Rules thread will be locked. This one stays open for coordinating new threads, moving stuff around, and general layout discussions. That doesn't mean this thread replaces the PZK. For appeals on warnings or any other complaints, go straight to the aforementioned PZK. Chatting and off-topic posts will be kept to an absolute minimum.

Someone has to set you guys straight (not even being a jerk here), which is weird because everyone chiming in seems to have enough posts to know exactly how this site works.
If nobody replies, you're pissed. If someone does reply, you're still pissed. Pick a side and stick to it. 🤣
And why the hell does Kal-El have to cover for you?! What are you even talking about?!
You're right about one thing: you really should've kept your mouth shut. 👍
See ya in the Soccer sub. 👋

rustydrifter10 said:I get where you're coming from. I'm just saying if there's any chance at getting a penalty waived or reduced—for whatever reason—it's unlikely to happen unless someone actually files a complaint.

No, common sense is enough. You can look at the other posts here and see that the permanent ban makes zero sense. There's really no need to start a whole debate just because someone isn't using their head.
And you know as well as I do that not too long ago, bans were being handed out for no reason at all.

Carl Garcia22 said:Look, you just need common sense to read through this guy's other posts and realize permabans have nothing to do with it. There’s zero point in starting a whole debate just because someone refuses to use their brain.
And you know damn well that not long ago, bans were being handed out for absolutely no reason, too.

You know perfectly well that Nica would rather drop dead than publicly admit that some "respectable" moderator actually screwed up.
It isn't even about making a mistake; it's about his ego. Nica thinks it's better to just shut it down and play dumb, pretending everything is fair and square just to keep appearances.

But honestly, why does this ever surprise me when it comes to Reddit? 🙂

Jeremy Johnson18 said:Soccer can be such a headache. Is anyone actually expecting a shred of logic when we dive into this specific subforum?

Jeremy Johnson18 said:You know deep down that Nica would much rather go to her grave than admit that a respected colleague in moderation slipped up.
It isn’t even really about an error, but rather his own arrogance—something Nica seems to think is better handled by playing dumb and pretending everything was perfectly fair and balanced.

But honestly, why does this feel so typical for Reddit? 🙂

So, which side are you rooting for?

Jonathan Barnes5 said:So, who are you rooting for?

I'm on the side of justice for the users here. Always.
What about you? 🍿

On Reddit, there’s always been a loose list of users who seem to be teetering on the edge of getting banned, so if one of them finally went down, nobody would have blinked. Some people cheered it on, others weren't fans—we actually just had a lively debate about everyone's tastes regarding moderation on the chat recently—but still, it wouldn't have been a shock. This time, however, we’re all genuinely stunned, which is exactly why ☕
Charles Roberts33 brought us over here.

boldfox88 Asks:
On Reddit, there’s always been this loose list of users hovering right on the edge of being banned, so if one finally went down, nobody would have blinked. Some people loved seeing it, others hated it—we actually just had a heated debate about everyone's taste in moderation on the chat recently—but even then, it wouldn't have been a shock. This time, however, we're all genuinely caught off guard, which is exactly why Charles Roberts33 dragged us over here. ☕

This is a solid summary of how everything went down. I wasn’t exactly thrilled when Ster or Silvan got permabanned, but let’s be real—they were warned. They kept pushing the envelope despite the warnings, acting out and getting under everyone's skin; I can see why someone eventually lost their patience. But Cinque? He’s never been a nuisance and has never even seen a warning, yet suddenly he's hit with a permanent ban. Honestly, what the hell? None of us here have ever really commented on the moderation or bothered to write anything on this subreddit, but this whole situation forced our hand. That alone speaks volumes about how bizarre this decision was. To put it in soccer terms: it’s like if Iniesta picked up a red card in the 25th minute just for a minor foul in the midfield. It feels like a pure show of force from the mods—punishing people just because they can, acting like they're as untouchable as NATO.

rustydrifter10 said:Cinque didn't even bother complaining about the ban. Honestly, this kind of advocacy feels pretty pointless if you aren't actually talking to the person involved. When we're deciding whether to lift or reduce a penalty, the most important thing is understanding the individual's perspective and their reasoning.

Thanks for the links, but going forward, it would be helpful if you included at least one direct link to the subject of the complaint—like a profile or a specific post from the user in question. You spelled their handle several different ways here, so I had to play detective just to figure out who I was actually looking for. 🙂

Cinque didn't even bother complaining. He’s such a stickler for the rules that he clearly just swallowed the decision whole, even if it was wrong. If he were actually the moron people claim—the kind of guy who would let a single bad incident drive him to go on a bender—he’d be here right now causing a scene, acting like an idiot, or trying to start some cult.

Whether someone is actually guilty or innocent, or if their punishment was justified or not—it honestly doesn't matter much. Their personal feelings about it don't change the reality of the situation. If a penalty is too harsh, then the permanent ban should be lifted, and at that point, the choice to post or stay silent belongs entirely to them.

The moderators over at the soccer subreddits are nowhere near being active or actually engaged with the community, let alone running a flawless operation.

Bryan Adams6 said:Why stir up all this drama on the PDF thread and here too? Was it really that much of a struggle to just sit tight and wait for TJ to show up and satisfy your curiosity?

Look, since TJ (who, in my opinion, is easily the most active moderator we have) hasn't logged on in over a month, it was honestly a bit tough just sitting around waiting for him to remember to do this so the question could finally be brought up.

We actually went to ask informally on a local Reddit thread first, just so it wouldn't look like we were attacking you guys or calling people out—we figured maybe you had info that we were missing. But apparently, the guy just got a permanent ban because he felt like handing it out to TJ; he was just having one of those days.

Carl Garcia22 said:I honestly don't get it—is it really that much of a struggle for people to just step up and admit when they've messed up? It feels like such a massive hurdle for some folks, you know? Like, instead of just owning the mistake and moving on, there's this whole elaborate dance of avoidance—it’s almost like watching someone try to fix a leaking pipe with nothing but Scotch tape and wishful thinking. Why make it so complicated? Just say, "Yeah, I blew it," and let's go from there.

People are tossing around labels like "insurgents" in these PDFs left and right—it’s getting ridiculous. And now, look at this one "exemplary" forum user... they’re handing out permanent bans without even bothering to check the facts first. Honestly, it feels like this isn't even the first time it's happened.

Yeah, honestly? That kind of moderation style has been hanging around for way too long. It’s one of those things that just feels off from the start. But, if I’m being totally real—I actually want to thank them for banning me. It basically just cleared out a corner of my life that was getting pretty toxic, you know? It’s like finally cleaning out a junk drawer or moving away from a neighborhood that was just draining your energy—sometimes you need that space to breathe.

Man, I used to be just like Cinque. I was constantly dancing right on the edge of a cliff, practically begging for trouble. It was a miracle I didn't end up completely blowing my entire future—like, one wrong move and everything goes up in smoke. But I survived. And honestly? That whole mess actually taught me something.
Hey moderator, you guys weren't wasting your time messing with me; eventually, I just mellowed out and became as soft as a damn marshmallow.

Cinque is just young and green. You could probably toss him a little bait, like a tiny worm, and he’d gulp it down like some starving beast. He gets triggered way too easily by anything coming from the Barca crowd.

Just let him hang out on the forum. The hook is sitting there, steady, waiting for someone to bite. One day, when he finally learns how to chew through the hook without getting caught himself, then he'll settle down. That day is coming.

At the end of the day, this is all just a joke anyway. Stop trying to get in people's heads and give them complexes. Let the guy live his life.

Give him back his avatar, give him his dignity back ☕

What a legend, this Patrick Martin 🙏🙏

Charles Roberts33 said:What kind of person is Patrick Martin? 🙏🙏

Always been a gentleman.

we need justice for Cinque 🙂

It’s a New Year—supposedly we’re meant to be closing out all the old drama from last year. But here we go again, just another one of those endless forum loops being dictated by Nica.

Seriously, it’s been way too long since people actually asked for a straight answer. Doesn't matter if it's good news or bad—we just need to know. Waiting on TJ has basically turned into waiting for Godot... honestly, I just hope he’s doing okay since he hasn't logged on in over a month.

I’m trying my best to wrap my head around this, but I truly don't get why making a decision is such a massive struggle here. It’s like they’re deciding whether or not to grant clemency to someone on death row or something...

So, I’ve been hearing the chatter that Napoleon seems to have a knack for getting into these heated arguments where he just can't help but throw insults. I took a little dive into his profile, and honestly, I can definitely see a pattern there—he tends to jump right in and start poking the bear just to provoke a reaction. I totally get why people are calling for a harsher penalty; sometimes you feel like you need to hit the brakes hard just to get someone to chill out for a bit. I also realize that for some users, those lighter touches don't really do much, leaving the mods with very little room to maneuver when it comes to temporary bans. But, looking at the situation, it doesn't seem like Napoleon is quite that far gone yet, so I’m going to give him a pass on the permanent ban this time. Just this once.