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Daniel Ward87 said:Reddit isn't collecting any donations here; we're just sharing a notice that was already all over the news anyway. If we went by your logic, every news outlet covering this would be breaking the law.
Correct me if I've got that wrong.
brightpuma said:I'll explain it to you in a DM once I get home in a bit.
hollowtrucker77 said:Look, buddy, if you're feeling particularly enlightened—especially when it comes to offering a helping hand—I'm pretty certain you can always find people in your own neck of the woods who could use some assistance.
We all have those moments where our hearts swell and empathy takes over, though unfortunately, common sense doesn't always kick in for everyone at the same time.
And let's be real, sometimes that kindness gets taken advantage of.
🙂
Even if it doesn't, there are countless situations where help is either requested or desperately needed, so is it really fair to discriminate based on who's getting more coverage in the news?
Amanda Diaz said:If I get taken advantage of, that's on me. I don't need you lecturing me about it, thanks. Who I surround myself with and who I choose to help is my business and mine alone. Honestly, I’d much rather see a new charity drive in the news every single day than have to read about what some British heir is up to.
melloworca6 said:Look, if Reddit, the admins, or the mods are complicit in any way, then it isn't just on you—it's on all of us. 😉 Once someone gets scammed two or three times, people start getting suspicious and they just stop wanting to help altogether.
There’s been plenty of drama on this forum before, so I don't know why everyone is acting surprised that some people are being cautious.
Amanda Diaz said:Why should anyone on a forum be held responsible? You shared the news; whether someone chooses to act on it or not is entirely their own business. If I start a thread claiming World War III has broken out, and some idiots on the stock market panic and tanked share prices because of it, am I the one at fault, or are those idiots? I’ve actually been messaging the administrator about this exact topic. I told her straight up that I’ve been swindled that way several times in my life. Does that mean we shouldn't give money—even if it's pocket change to me—to the next person who says they desperately need it?
Personally, I’d rather be scammed by three more people like Nora for a few cents than fail to help one little Nora who actually needs it.
Amanda Diaz said:Why should anyone on a forum be held responsible? You shared the news; whether someone chooses to act on it or not is entirely their own business. If I start a thread claiming World War III has broken out, and some idiots on the stock market panic and tanked share prices because of it, am I the one at fault, or are those idiots? I’ve actually been messaging the administrator about this exact topic. I told her straight up that I’ve been swindled that way several times in my life. Does that mean we shouldn't give money—even if it's pocket change to me—to the next person who says they desperately need it?
Personally, I’d rather be scammed by three more people like Nora for a few cents than fail to help one little Nora who actually needs it.
Suzana Udovičić (23) was three months pregnant when she lost her brother, Mark, in a tragic car accident. By her sixth month, doctors diagnosed her baby with an abdominal wall defect. She eventually gave birth to Anastasia in Rijeka via emergency C-section at eight months. It was critical—the baby barely made it. Even though she weighed only about 3.9 pounds, neither mother nor daughter gave up. The father doesn't want anything to do with them. Now, Suzana lives in a Caritas home in Vukomerac, spending every waking moment by her daughter's side, just waiting for the day they can finally leave the hospital.
- Please, we need your help. We really do, - pleaded Suzana, who is currently surviving on just $533 maternity benefits. If you can find it in your heart to help Anastasia, donations can be sent directly to Suzana Udovičić’s checking account at Chicago bank. The account number is 3235036801.
melloworca6 said:Go explain that to the women on Rid who were sending cash, clothes, baby gear, toys, cosmetics, and everything else. They aren't crazy for being skeptical and refusing to believe anyone when they come begging for stuff, especially after they've found donated items being resold all over the internet, forums, or Craigslist...
And you also have to consider that during these kinds of drives, some people are literally taking food out of their own mouths just to help out. It's not like everyone has extra cash lying around that they don't need, and it's not like they aren't going to feel the sting when they realize their money went to someone who didn't deserve it.
Amanda Diaz said:Who am I supposed to be explaining this to? Everyone acts according to their own conscience. Save that pathetic "taking food from their mouths" sob story for someone else. I mean, you can count those people on one hand, and usually, they're immediately canonized as saints the moment they pass away (just Google Mother Teresa). Whether you choose to share news on this forum or include a disclaimer if you haven't personally verified someone is entirely up to you.
melloworca6 said:jadecyclist42, cut the melodrama. 🙄
Global announcements are usually reserved for vetted campaigns where there’s actual two-way communication and feedback. Have you actually spoken to this mother? Does she even know people are on Reddit trying to raise money for them? Is it possible to run this through a non-profit or some association so everything stays transparent?
The admins have specific responsibilities to the site as a business and to the users. If they didn't, everyone would just be using the platform to advertise, sell stuff, or solicit money constantly. I feel for you, girl, but posts like this don't help get any campaign—this one or any other—pinned to the top. It makes it look like if you're loud enough, you can bypass all the rules. That's a great attitude: "Listen to me or you're just annoying know-it-alls."
Actually, that's not a bad idea. 🙂
jadecyclist42 said:Good grief, you clearly didn't read what I wrote, yet you're trying to lecture me??!
I think I mentioned about twenty-five times how this campaign works on the exact same principle as Nora's case.
There is a Facebook page where one of the admins is the mother herself, so you can contact her directly to ask for specifics.
A local non-profit has stepped in, and we're just waiting on the phone number for donations to help little Anastasia.
The page has nearly a million photos showing the girl's journey through the months in the hospital.
There are news articles too; I personally linked stories from major US outlets.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pomoz...ref=ts&fref=ts
The only real difference between Nora and little Anastasia is that Nora was lucky enough that her parents "know the right people," so she got much more publicity than, say, Stephanie or little Anastasia.
No, I'm not Anastasia's parent; I'm just noticing that not everyone is as well-connected or as lucky as Nora and her family.
What I really resent about the admin of Nora's page is that he wasn't able—aside from Zanetti, who probably only posted because of Mateo Kovačić's suggestion—to like or support the pages of other children in need. Once it became obvious that Nora
would raise the necessary funds, he could have at least made that gesture, especially since his page gained an insane amount of likes.
For comparison, little Stephanie had just over 10,000 likes, while Nora's page has over 80,000 as of today. That kind of exposure could have been used for other kids and pressing issues, but I guess not.
This child only has her single, very young mother, who is forced to live on $533 welfare benefits for single moms because she's renting in Washington, D.C., since she isn't originally from there, while the little girl receives treatment here and waits for a transplant in Italy.
northernpilot2 said:Helping Nora is a legitimate cause, and honestly, I think the chances of anyone actually scamming the system here are pretty slim.
Every single major media outlet in the country has jumped on board, so I really don't see why there's an issue with the biggest American forum joining the movement too.
We really need to stop looking for a villain in every situation; this is just a beautiful initiative that's bringing together people who are barely scraping by themselves, all to help this little girl.
jadecyclist42 said:Good grief, you clearly didn't read what I wrote, yet you're trying to lecture me??!
I think I mentioned about twenty-five times how this campaign works on the exact same principle as Nora's case.
There is a Facebook page where one of the admins is the mother herself, so you can contact her directly to ask for specifics.
A local non-profit has stepped in, and we're just waiting on the phone number for donations to help little Anastasia.
The page has nearly a million photos showing the girl's journey through the months in the hospital.
There are news articles too; I personally linked stories from major US outlets.
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pomoz...ref=ts&fref=ts
The only real difference between Nora and little Anastasia is that Nora was lucky enough that her parents "know the right people," so she got much more publicity than, say, Stephanie or little Anastasia.
No, I'm not Anastasia's parent; I'm just noticing that not everyone is as well-connected or as lucky as Nora and her family.
What I really resent about the admin of Nora's page is that he wasn't able—aside from Zanetti, who probably only posted because of Mateo Kovačić's suggestion—to like or support the pages of other children in need. Once it became obvious that Nora
would raise the necessary funds, he could have at least made that gesture, especially since his page gained an insane amount of likes.
For comparison, little Stephanie had just over 10,000 likes, while Nora's page has over 80,000 as of today. That kind of exposure could have been used for other kids and pressing issues, but I guess not.
This child only has her single, very young mother, who is forced to live on $533 welfare benefits for single moms because she's renting in Washington, D.C., since she isn't originally from there, while the little girl receives treatment here and waits for a transplant in Italy.