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COVID thread locked without explanation (again)

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Samuel Turner2 Samuel Turner2 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Seriously, who on earth decided to shut down the anti-lockdown protests thread over on the COVID PDF?
I mean, come on, shouldn't they have at least pinned the final post with an explanation before just nuking the whole thing?
In my book, this kind of moderator behavior is totally uncalled for.
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Samuel Turner2 Samuel Turner2 Active MemberOP
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#2 ·
Anyone got anything to say?
Or are you all just totally speechless? 🤔
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#3 ·
So, I was just wondering—is anyone actually going to give us an explanation for this?
Frank Martin2 Frank Martin2 Member
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#4 ·
Sophia Hughes90 said:Look, I'm curious too—will there actually be an explanation provided?

Behaviorists argue there are a few ways animals—and humans, for that matter—react: the primary ones being "fight" or "flight," and the secondary one being "playing dead."

This last tactic is used quite effectively in politics. For example, you have masses of people protesting in the streets (I'm looking at current events happening across America and the world), demanding change, only to eventually disperse and head home.
Meanwhile, "the government" stays silent. They simply act as if nothing out of the ordinary is happening, pretending they aren't even noticing the commotion. They just lie low, "play dead," and continue doing exactly what they were doing before.

But this isn't a harmless game. Politicians play on the idea that the public will eventually tire itself out; they bet on the fact that people will get bored if their efforts don't yield immediate results. It's a dangerous gamble, though, because things can quickly spiral into a chaotic mess that sweeps the politicians away along with everyone else.

It seems like that same tactic is being attempted here on Reddit.
Any thread whose narrative doesn't align with the site's agenda, or fails to meet the standards of some higher authority that issues the "lock" command, gets shut down overnight. Sure, any of you users could take the question to a different platform, but—as the "Reddit administration"—we’ll just play dead.

Take the thread below as another example—the one regarding the moderator Mr. Brown, who is clearly someone's clone (and we all know clones aren't allowed under Reddit rules, let alone a clone posting on the same COVID PDF under a different name).

When someone brings it up, after a few pages of failed attempts at verbal gymnastics and mental maneuvering to justify why someone should be exempt from the rules (which he, by the way, created himself), the thread is simply locked. We "play dead," and everything is forgotten.
Ultimately, it feels like they're telling us that what's permitted for Jupiter isn't permitted for the rest of us, so deal with it.

Honestly, I think this way of "solving problems" is shortsighted. It drives people away (to put it in economic terms: it loses clicks). Reddit relies on economic viability; the owner makes money from it, and every time they act like this, they're just putting another pebble in their own shoe. And pebble by pebble, you end up with a palace (or in entrepreneur language: dollar by dollar equals a full wallet).
Of course, Reddit won't go bankrupt just because they drive a thousand people away, but any smart entrepreneur knows that "every little bit counts" (to paraphrase a common slogan you hear on American TV).
Besides, forum-style platforms are dying out anyway due to new communication methods and emerging internet technologies.
Personally, I find that a shame, but hey—new era, new challenges. I'd be sad when this forum eventually becomes obsolete and gets shut down. It's inevitable, unfortunately, but it makes me wonder why the Reddit administration is using these kinds of tactics to speed up the process.
Frank Martin2 Frank Martin2 Member
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#5 ·
By the way, I see the "media and coronavirus" thread has been locked.

I suspect there was an order from the top—something along the lines of "stifle everything"—starting with whatever causes the most friction. That means threads questioning our primary influence peddlers, the mainstream media, and any discussions regarding what "our" outlets choose to ignore, such as global anti-lockdown protests.

Essentially, they're trying to choke off freedom of information, thought, and speech—rights that are supposedly guaranteed under the US Constitution.

As a reminder:

Article 1, Sections 1, 2, and 3
Freedom of opinion and expression is guaranteed.
Freedom of expression specifically includes freedom of the press and other media, freedom of speech, public appearance, and the right to establish all types of public communication institutions.
Censorship is prohibited. Journalists have the right to freedom of reporting and access to information.
David Mendoza4 David Mendoza4 Member
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joined Oct 2007
#6 ·
@Frank Martin2👍
I’m honestly just sitting here waiting for someone to finally call you out on all this daydreaming, because if you keep talking like that, you might as well just dive headfirst into the world of conspiracy theory😁. Honestly, it's kind of adorable how much you're overthinking this, but maybe take it down a notch?
Samuel Turner2 Samuel Turner2 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Maybe we should kick off a second part for the anti-lockdown protests thread? 🤔
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#8 ·
Go check out the local community college website, because (unless you’re just trolling for the hell of it) you clearly need an education more than you need a sandwich.
Ethan Campbell81 Ethan Campbell81 Member
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#9 ·
Joseph Allen71 said:Go check out some community college website, because unless you're just trolling, you clearly need an education more than you need food.

Hold on a second, "genius." Aren't you that failed gas station clerk who couldn't even handle pumping gas or stocking shelves without hitting an intellectual wall? You couldn't even hold onto that basic job.

And now you're lecturing someone else about education? 🤣

You are a complete joke. 🤣
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#10 ·
Big thanks for stalking me and coming up with your own "creative interpretation" of my old posts. That pathetic attempt at a personal attack was honestly more tragic than funny. At the end of the day, none of that changes the fact that what I wrote is still right. 🙂
So, come on, honey—tell me exactly which part of my last post you think is wrong?! 🙂
Ethan Campbell81 Ethan Campbell81 Member
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#11 ·
Joseph Allen71 said:My sincere congratulations on stalking me and offering your "free interpretation" of my previous posts, not to mention that tragicomic attempt at a personal attack. None of that changes the fact that what I wrote remains accurate. 🙂
Tell me, honey, what exactly do you think is inaccurate about my last post?! 🙂

The reality is, you look ridiculous. You’re some washed-up gas station attendant at a Shell station trying to lecture someone on education. Let's be clear: I don't divide people into educated and uneducated—I divide them into humans and "non-humans"—but you were the one who started that. And yet, you can't even manage to hold down a job at a pump. How low is that?
Bottom line: sweep your own porch first, little mouse, before you try playing the intellectual. ☕
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#12 ·
Ethan Campbell81 said:Look, you just sound ridiculous. You’re some failed gas station attendant trying to lecture someone else about their education—and let's be clear, I don't divide people into educated and uneducated, I just divide them into humans and "non-humans," but you were the one who started that nonsense—yet you can't even manage to hold down a damn job at a Shell station, so how low can you actually go?
Ergo, maybe try sweeping your own porch first, little mouse, before you start acting like some kind of intellectual... ☕

Why are you even arguing this now? There's always been this inherent lack of intelligence tied to the anti-vax crowd. The ones who aren't actually dim-witted are usually just looking to cash in on book deals, clicks, and whatever else they can grab, or they're just desperate for any shred of attention. I've been following this scene for two or three years now, so I can tell you from direct experience...
Their modus operandi is always the same: it's always "them" who are to blame, there's a constant misunderstanding of the actual facts, or they just twist the information to fit whatever narrative suits them best. Did I miss anything?...
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#13 ·
Look, buddy, when you start drawing conclusions based on zero actual data, you’re going to end up looking like a "genius" 99.999% of the time—just like you’re doing right now. You don't have the slightest clue about my formal education or what I've picked up over the years, yet you think you "know" everything because you did a little "research."
It’s the exact same nonsense we see regarding the virus that shut down the entire world.
But hey, you're clearly so brilliant that your intellect is practically leaking out of your nose, and anyone who doesn't agree with you—or with the lazy (or incompetent) crowd following your lead—is automatically labeled stupid.
I'll ask you again: which part of my post at 2:30 AM was factually incorrect?!

Edith Citron, for heaven's sake, stop whining while I'm busy debating a legitimate scientist. You know that in situations like this, I have to type a little slower just to lower my cognitive functions enough to match his level. 🙂
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#14 ·
Anti-vaxxer

Anti-maskers (razors and anti-vaxxers)
Linda Lee4 Linda Lee4 Active Member
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#15 ·
Just another disgraceful move to shut down any thread that doesn't toe the line of the mainstream COVID narrative being so aggressively pushed by this site... ☕
Matthew Ramirez62 Matthew Ramirez62 Newcomer
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#16 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:[...]
Anti-masker (shaves his beard and skips the vax)

I mean, didn't some Englishman figure out a cure for this back in the 1800s?

https://www.motherjones.com/media/20...tory-timeline/
Ethan Campbell81 Ethan Campbell81 Member
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#17 ·
Mark Cruz15 said:What exactly are you trying to say? There has always been a direct link between anti-vaxxers and sheer ignorance. Those who aren't actually ignorant are simply looking to profit from book sales and clicks, or they are just attention seekers. I have followed them for two or three years now, and I can confirm that firsthand.
The modus operandi is simple: "they" are always to blame. There is a constant lack of understanding, or more likely, a blatant twisting of the facts to suit a personal agenda. Am I missing anything?

This isn't about anti-vaxxers. It’s about shoving every single dissenter into the same basket. It’s about blatant overgeneralization and this pathetic, black-and-white worldview—much like that drunk, washed-up loser hanging around the ExxonMobil stations.
So, if I don't happen to share your exact perspective, I am suddenly considered too ignorant to distinguish between fact and the nonsense peddled by crackpot websites and anti-vax portals?
Look, I share your sentiment regarding those genuine anti-vaxxers with messianic complexes. Do you honestly believe I spend my time wandering around buying books from New Age gurus or donating money to websites that promise to increase your height by four inches?

You have a black-and-white view of the world, which is a hallmark of a limited mind. I cannot change that, nor do I particularly care to. Continue riding the wave of your own ignorance if you must.

Joseph Allen71 said:Look, gold, when you start drawing conclusions based on insufficient data, you’re just guessing.

You’re doing the exact same thing. Honestly, you've clearly lost your grip on reality after consuming that amateur, low-grade swill. It looks like that junk fried whatever brain cells you had left. 😵

Joseph Allen71 said:In 99.999% of situations, you end up looking "brilliant," just like you do right now.

I am doing exactly what you are doing. I am simply meeting you on your own terms. You came here to lecture "anti-vaxxers," but instead, you only succeeded in embarrassing yourself.

Joseph Allen71 said:You haven't the slightest clue regarding my formal education or the actual scope of what I have mastered over the years. You possess no real insight, yet you claim to "know" simply because you conducted some superficial "research."

You lack substance yourself, yet that hasn't stopped you from coming here to patronize everyone without any basis. You have no idea who I am, what my profession is, or my level of education. It doesn't matter to you—not regarding me, nor anyone else contributing to this thread. Your only goal is to act "superior and brilliant," as if you need someone beneath you just to function in daily life.
Frankly, people like you are a necessity, let's be clear (I know you aren't looking for my sympathy, but just so we are clear)
Joseph Allen71 said:Once again, which part of my 2:30 AM post was factually incorrect?!

I already explained everything above. You made an assumption based on your own lack of knowledge, which only serves to make you look pathetic and ridiculous.

Joseph Allen71 said:Edith Citron, damn it, why should I bother arguing while responding to a world-class scientist? You know that in situations like this, I type more easily because I have to have at least one drink just to lower my cognitive abilities to his level. 🙂c

Stick to your lane, buddy, and go polish some golf clubs. I suspect your life only feels meaningful when you have a blood alcohol level high enough to numb your brain. Just don't get behind the wheel like that. ☕
Grace Wood5 Grace Wood5 Active Member
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#18 ·
I’ll slow down my typing just for you—since you clearly struggle with reading at a normal pace. What exactly was factually incorrect about my 2:30 post?! 🙂
If you can actually manage a coherent response, then we can keep this going. 🙂
Jessica Morris6 Jessica Morris6 Active Member
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#19 ·
Ethan Campbell81 said:The issue here isn't about anti-vaxxers; it’s about shoving every single person who disagrees with you into one big bucket, which is just lazy generalization and a total black-and-white way of looking at things (kind of like those drunk losers hanging around the ExxonMobil stations).
So, if I don't happen to share your exact opinion, am I automatically considered so dim-witted that I'm just regurgitating nonsense from crackpot websites and anti-vax portals?
Look, I feel the same way you do about those actual anti-vaxxers with their messianic complexes, but do you honestly think I'm out here buying books by New Age gurus or donating money to sites promising to grow your anatomy by ten centimeters?

You have this black-and-white worldview, which is really just a hallmark of a limited mind, but I can't change that anyway—nor do I want to—so, go ahead, keep riding that wave of ignorance...

Regarding the current global situation, when I talk about hardcore anti-vaxxers, I'm not just grouping in people who have some common-sense concerns regarding certain aspects of the WHO vaccines. Link.
I don't spend all my time lurking on this COVID-19 Task Force forum, but I've noticed that quite a few proponents of staying unvaccinated are either extreme or act like relentless crusaders, and they seriously undermine the credibility of people who actually have legitimate fears and questions. It's not my fault if I tell you that you're acting like a hardcore anti-vaxxer, but it's the people like that who make you look bad.
Like I said, I was following the anti-vax movement long before this pandemic hit, and I can say with absolute certainty that these people are nothing but nuisances who are dangerous to everyone around them because of how they spread panic and misinformation. Some people—if you can even call them that—don't realize that someone is actually reading their idiocy and that this kind of stuff kills people. Others, though, are fully aware...
Samuel Turner2 Samuel Turner2 Active MemberOP
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#20 ·
Look, y'all are totally drifting off-topic here.
I’d really appreciate it if someone could give me the actual reasoning behind why this thread was shut down.
Thanks!

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