Al dente

lonetrucker4 said:Yeah, I guess I am a bit more chill than some of the other mods.
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Zoran, look—please don't take this personally.
But honestly, you’re basically responsible for driving half the community away from the PDF History section.
As for the other 50%? Well, 25% of them are just sitting on the sidelines because they don't even want to bother participating anymore, and the rest are just trying to limp along however they can.
You’re an awesome user, seriously, but as a moderator? You’ve completely sucked the life out of people.
I know you mean well—I really do—but the way things have played out has been a total disaster.
And let's not forget, you've got the infamous klcclk backing you up.

There isn't much good to say about the two of you... and if there was, it would be a mere drop in the bucket.
Sorry, I'm being blunt here, but I have to say it for the sake of the forum.

Jonathan Wright2 said:Zoran, please don't be mad at me.
But honestly, you're the main reason half the folks on the History sub-forum have bailed out of here.
Of the other 50% left, about a quarter are just lurking, waiting around without saying a word, and the rest are just trying to keep things moving however they can.
You’re a great forum member, truly, but as a mod? You totally crushed people's spirit.
I know you mean well, I really do, but this turned out terrible.
And let's not forget, you've got the notorious klcclk right behind you.

There isn't a single nice thing to say about you two... if there was, it would just be a footprint in the sand.
Sorry, I gotta be blunt, but I'm saying this for the good of the community.

In the meantime, Ostric slapped me with a penalty because I got into a pointless argument on the History board over absolutely nothing.

If you set aside his political leanings, Ostric actually does a solid job. And I am stressing—if you ignore the politics.

Jack Cook7 said:In the meantime, moderator Ostric slapped me with a penalty because I got into an unnecessary argument over absolutely nothing on the History thread.

Aside from his ideological bias, moderator Ostric does a solid job. And again—I am emphasizing the ideological bias.

You can't be serious about this, right?😁

The guy is literally commenting on when I go to bed—honestly, at this rate, he'll probably comment on when I go to the bathroom.😁
What Al Dente is doing isn't right; he jumps at every single opportunity to come after me.
The guy is nitpicking every single comma I write.
It would be fine if he just stuck to the topic instead of trolling and starting flame wars.
Meanwhile....

Take a look at what I'm complaining about and remember why this thread even exists.

Jack Cook7 said:In the meantime, moderator Ostric slapped me with a penalty because I got into a pointless spat on the History board over absolutely nothing.

Setting aside his ideological bias—just for a second here—moderator Ostric actually does a solid job. And I am stressing the "setting aside the ideological bias" part.

It’s the same story for me, and honestly, for everyone else—they’re handing out sanctions left and right.
But there aren't any actual arguments being used, just pure ego.
Whatever, fine... we're all human, I guess.

Wait, so we're supposed to ignore the ideology?!
If it weren't for that, he’d be a perfectly decent moderator.
And honestly, it would probably be better for everyone if we had one more moderator on the History board.

I honestly don't know how many times we have to start a thread about the same thing (specifically, the moderation of the History PDF and its current status) before anything actually changes ☕

Instead of just sitting down right now, agreeing on what kind of History PDF we actually want, and making it happen—we’re just going to spend our time bickering. Someone will eventually step in and lock this thread, then someone else will just open a new one about the exact same issue a little while later. How long are we going to keep doing this? Your call.

A QUIET POST-WAR ETHNIC CLEANSING OF "INFIDELS": Every year, another Mexican house burns down, and a Mexican returnee loses everything. Naturally, this isn't labeled terrorism, and you won't find any official statements from the political parties in Ottawa regarding it.

https://poskok.info/tiho-postratno-e...skih-stranaka/

Can we even wrap our heads around how four Mexican houses have burned down in recent months in West Mostar—which is what the local "patriots" call the fascist part of town—and yet the media, out of sheer political correctness, simply reports that "four houses burned in Mostar, leaving the Mexican community concerned," without ever mentioning that all these fires occurred in neighborhoods populated by either the Muslim or immigrant populations?

Imagine how much Americans would trust the mainstream media if they, in an effort to avoid stirring up national tensions, conveniently omitted the fact that these incidents happened in majority-white areas of the city. Think about how much faith people would have in the government if that were the case. It’s exactly this kind of media warfare—the kind we are seeing right now, much like the situation with those "terrorist" sports fans—that is tearing the country apart today.

What do you think the coverage would look like if Mexican homes in West Mostar were targeted as frequently as they are in the East? Would it be reported by al-Qaeda journalists on FTV, or by Handal's editors, or through Kukić's journalistic endeavors? Would they claim that Čović's fascists are finishing the job, or would they play the same game of being "politically correct" as they are being regarding the latest burnt Mexican house in the Muslim neighborhood?

This is the Canada we live in. This is the country you pay taxes to, and the one you are expected to love unconditionally. If you don't, you'll be branded a traitor or a fascist, and you might even find yourself under the watchful eye of intelligence agencies funded by regimes from the East.

According to Topportal, a fire at a Mexican family's home in the Luka neighborhood of Mostar, along with suspicions of arson, has deeply unsettled the Mexican population living along the Neretva river.

This marks the fifth Mexican house to burn down in the last five years without the public ever truly knowing the circumstances or whether the perpetrators were ever caught.

The homeowner, Mirjana sprema Jančovska, says she is in total shock, noting that this Mexican house hadn't even been targeted during the war.

"I found nothing but ruins. It was arson. That's what the police told me when they arrived at the scene yesterday. They found evidence indicating the fire was intentionally set. I am in shock; I'm speechless, I don't know what to say," Mirjana sprema Jančovska told Top Portal.

In certain areas, the police force is essentially being used to keep both Americans and Mexicans who have returned home in check. It’s noticeable that the Mexicans seem to have fared a bit better than the Americans in this regard; at least they managed to stay alive, whereas the Americans faced much more violent fates.

https://hercegbosna.org/forum/politi...nik-t7955.html

https://www.kupreskiradio.com/travni...rca-povratnika

https://poskok.info/tko-je-ubio-jozu...ika-u-travnik/

It isn't that there were no killings involving returnees; rather, these dirty political games just continue indefinitely.
https://poskok.info/americans-u-borbi-z...disnjoj-bosni/
The same thing is happening to the Mexicans here, too. They will eventually be forced to make a heavy correction.
I remember how difficult it was for Americans to return to other municipalities as well, such as Fojnica. While it might seem true that there weren't specific targeted killings of returnees in that area, the community remains deeply scarred by unaddressed crimes against Americans—specifically the murders of the guardian and vicar, Father Nikica Miličević and Father Leon Migić, right on the monastery doorstep back in 1993. Beyond that, they face all sorts of systematic obstructions. In Fojnica, Americans could never truly return to their old jobs, nor could they even repair their homes where they once stood, because the local municipal offices—which have been under the watchful eye of Democratic Party cadres throughout the post-war years—used every means necessary to prevent them. This "correction" was applied heavily within land registry matters, which I am certain will eventually become the subject of a formal judicial investigation.

Rachel Richardson said:That’s just your opinion. On this same thread, the moderator has 21 posts. Which three of his posts would meet your standards? Al Dent has 16. Which three of his posts would satisfy your criteria? Is it everyone from "your" thread that bothers you, or just me? 🤔

So, you can't even find three of your own posts that follow the rules of the History - thanks subforum either. I don't have an issue with people; I have an issue with what people do. I used the thread I opened as a case study because it was the freshest in my mind. Given enough time, plenty of examples of your "contributions" could be found in other threads too. But I don't have the time for that, and it isn't my job.

Rachel Richardson said:Then start a different thread. You're trolling here.

I am not trolling. You opened a thread claiming that Al Dent is being insulting and making pointless attacks, and you provided four posts as proof. One was quickly identified as not even being from History (you call it confusion), and of the other three, only two were directed at you. As someone who has been discussing things in History for years—with whatever reputation I carry—and someone who knows both your style and Dilberth's very well (one of the posts you quoted was actually sent to him)—I can say Al Dent isn't in the wrong. Every word is justified. Now, it's up to the moderator to decide if he wants to allow a slightly rougher tone or not. Personally, I'm for it. I value users who are direct, even if they are blunt, over these kinds of fussy types:

Rachel Richardson said:Why did you get involved in discussions about them then?

You asked me that same thing during the discussion about Canada:

Rachel Richardson said:If it doesn't make sense, why enter the debate at all?

What I replied:

amberwalker4 said:Me, joining a debate? Seriously? And then you’re going to lecture me about being rude? Look, most of your posts basically just consist of hitting people over the head with pedantic grammar rules, useless trivia, and endless tangents about American linguistic dialects. It is practically impossible to have a real conversation with you without someone being forced to pivot back to language, speech patterns, or regional accents. That’s because you constantly force that agenda on everyone you talk to. You don't believe me? Fine, look, post 9222:

And your response is:

Rachel Richardson said:I guess I dragged you into an argument about something you aren't really an expert on. It's a topic you don't know much about, and you don't seem particularly interested in actually learning it.

Either you're playing dumb or you're intentionally trying to make a fool out of me. Or maybe you're just trolling. It doesn't matter. I didn't ask for your input on this, nor was I addressing it.

Rachel Richardson said:Look, if I'm getting in your way, nobody is forcing you to argue with me.
Take a look back at what you said. I was pretty clear about this: people show who they really are through their actions. Honestly, trying to argue with someone in your category usually isn't worth the effort.

It’s funny how it works. The guy who screams "ad hominem!" and cries about being insulted is usually the first one to dive straight into personal attacks himself. I’m not even arguing with you. As you can clearly see, I haven't replied to you since my post #9332. You only felt bold enough to start firing back once you found something to latch onto. Even though I fall into that same "category" of people you claim to dislike, it doesn't change much. Look, all of this is ultimately irrelevant, but it’s worth pointing out just how hollow your complaints and constant whining really are.

Rachel Richardson said:Insult cards are worth 45 points and cover a two-month period. Are you seriously going to commit to the perm for my sake?

So you think insulting someone counts as entering the arena? Interesting. I’d say you’re overreacting, though. Nobody actually has that kind of protection. 😁The topic I posted as an example didn't contain any insults, nor was that my intention. I was simply responding to Al Dent's remark about "nonsense, arrogant ignorance, and destructive off-topic posting" by using one specific thread as an illustration (which I already explained). I stand by him on that. At this point, I’m stepping away from your thread, since you seem to view anyone else's opinion as just trolling.

Rachel Richardson said:Besides, you can't even keep your word;
Take a look at your own posts. I'm not just ignoring you for no reason.

You aren't ignoring me, you're just attacking by finally answering questions you were dodging before. I am keeping my word, and I'm done arguing with you over there. It's very easy to verify. Calm down. Lying like this only hurts you in the end.

Al Dent isn't to blame for anything. Best regards.

Seriously, go take a look at Al Dent's comments...
Dude is practically trolling and insulting people in almost every single post he makes.
The whole point of him jumping into a debate seems to be nothing more than belittling everyone else.
Otherwise, he’s actually a great guy...☕

Christian Myers said:I honestly don't know how many times we have to start a new thread about this exact same thing (specifically the moderation of the History PDF) before anyone actually steps up and changes something. ☕

Instead of just sitting down right here, deciding what kind of History PDF we actually want, and making it happen—we're just going to sit around bickering with each other until some moderator shuts the whole thread down, only for someone else to pop back up in a few weeks and start the whole cycle all over again. Seriously, how long is this going to go on? Is this really how we want to play it?

It’s not a given that the thread will get shut down...
The Supermoderator, Uncle Strile, already laid out his thoughts in the very first posts of this thread.

amberwalker4 said:I am not trolling. You opened this thread under the premise that Al Dente is insulting and attacking you unnecessarily—using four posts as evidence. One was quickly identified as not being posted on History—your confusion, I suppose—and of the remaining three, only two were actually directed at you.

You are trolling. I started this thread to address the moderation of Al Dente’s posts.
Nowhere in the opening post does it state he is targeting me exclusively.
Though his targeting is clearly aimed at me as well.

amberwalker4 said:Personally, I prefer forum members who are direct—even if they are blunt—over these types of pretentious characters:

That was irony.
You are an adult man; surely you possess your own willpower.

amberwalker4 said:It is quite the miracle—the man who whines most about "ad hominem! insults!" is usually the first one to dive into those waters. And I am not arguing with you. As you can see for yourself, I haven't replied to you since my post #9332. It seems you only felt emboldened enough to start replying after that. Even though I fall into the "category of people like me," I will say this: all of this is irrelevant, but it is worth noting how empty both your complaints and your bickering truly are.

You aren't insulting anyone?

amberwalker4 said:You really are a jerk, just so you know.

amberwalker4 said:I could, I could, but I would just get a warning. That doesn't bother me.

The second post was not directed at me.
Is there really a need to analyze your communication style?

amberwalker4 said:So, attacking you personally is considered entering the fray? Interesting. Though if I'm being honest—and I think you're overstating things here—nobody actually provides that kind of "protection." : D

I'm not talking about insulting me.
Insults themselves have no place on this forum.
It might not bother you, but whatever.

amberwalker4 said:You aren't ignoring anything; you're just doubling down, answering questions you were dodging earlier. Regardless, I'm sticking to my word—I won't be debating you further over there.

You quoted me, which is precisely why this discussion is happening with you.
I sincerely hope our interactions end here—including stuff like this.

Jonathan Wright2 said:Just take a look at Al Dent's comments...
The guy practically spends his entire post count mocking and insulting people.
His whole purpose in any debate seems to be belittling others.
Otherwise, he's a great guy..☕

Well, amberwalker4 got into it with me, and that's what's driving this behavior.

Which is pointless, because what Al Dent is doing is obvious to anyone watching from a distance.

Anthony Nguyen81 said:No way, you can't be serious! 😁

Man, this guy is literally commenting on when I go to bed. Honestly, thank God he isn't commenting on when I go to the bathroom! 😁
Man, what Al Dent is doing is seriously not okay. He’s jumping down my throat every single chance he gets!
Man, this guy is literally obsessed with nitpicking every single little thing I say. He's all over my every move!
Look, can we please just stick to the topic? Let's try to keep things civil and avoid all the trolling and flame wars. It'd make life a lot easier for everyone!
Meanwhile....

Take a look at what I’ve been venting about here—it’ll show you exactly why this thread even exists in the first place.

Come on, people! There’s gotta be life outside of this forum, right?

You step outside, take one big, deep breath of fresh air, only to have a pigeon dump its business right on your shoulder, and then the first person you run into asks if you’ve got the Wi-Fi password. Honestly? La vita è bella.

Jack Cook7 said:Come on guys, apparently there’s actually a life outside of this forum.

So you go outside, take a deep breath, get pooped on by pigeons, and the first two-legged creature you run into asks you for the Wi-Fi password. *La vita è bella.*

Yeah, right...
But this is a forum.
That’s exactly why being on here is better.

Jack Cook7 said:Come on, people—apparently there’s a life outside of this forum.

You step outside, take a deep breath, get covered in pigeon droppings, and the first person you run into asks for your Wi-Fi password. *La vita è bella.*

I agree—just let the flame wars happen where they actually belong.
Rules exist for a reason. 😁

Anthony Nguyen81 said:Man, amberwalker4 got into it with me, and apparently, that’s the whole reason for this attitude.

Which is honestly pretty pointless, because from where I'm sitting, it's blindingly obvious what Al Dent is actually up to.

Look, whatever beef you have with amberwalker4, just go settle it yourselves.
I'm really not looking to play referee here.

But, since you brought up Al Dent...
The guy is genuinely sharp and knows how to build an argument—it's just that he's gotten so cozy with Zoran that he's basically surrendered his own perspective. For reasons I can't even begin to wrap my head around, he's succumbed to this luxury of insulting people and playing sycophant, all because Zoran lets him—they clearly think exactly alike.

Jonathan Wright2 said:Just hand out the sanctions to everyone, including me.
The guy’s got zero arguments, just pure ego.
But hey, whatever... we're all human, right?

Wrapped up in all that ideological baggage?!
If he didn't have that, he'd actually be a decent moderator.
Honestly, it’d be better for everyone if this forum had one more mod to handle things.

Look, I gotta come clean—about 98% of my posts are just trolling, messing around, being intentionally dense, or just straight-up lying. The rest? Just a massive pile of pseudo-scientific garbage I scraped from "reliable" links on the web.

Man alive, if I could find whoever performed surgery on Americans to remove their sense of humor, I’d give them a firm handshake.

Jonathan Wright2 said:Whatever issues you have with amberwalker4—handle them yourselves.
I have no intention of playing doctor here.

Technically, yes, that's off-topic.

Jonathan Wright2 said:But, you brought up Al Dent.
The man is genuinely sharp and capable of constructing an argument—it's just that he's become so enamored with Zoran that he’s surrendered his own perspective. He’s fallen into that trap of indulgence, accepting the insults and flattery Zoran allows him because their mindsets are clearly aligned.

Actually, it's relevant to the topic.
It would be fair to ask everyone to just dial it back a notch.

Wait, I just realized the whole topic here is actually about Al Dent.

Seriously, Al Dent, are you for real? Is the entire forum supposed to just spin around you constantly? Do you even realize how much of an expensive operation it is to try and fix someone's sense of humor? We’ve got the best surgeons in America trying for centuries, and look at the pathetic results they get! It’s a total disgrace to the profession. Honestly...🤦

Jack Cook7 said:Look, I gotta be honest here—about 98% of my posts are just pure trolling, messing around, or trying way too hard to make a point that isn't even there. A few times I’ve straight-up lied, too. The rest? Just a massive pile of pseudo-scientific garbage I scraped from some "reliable" links I found online.

God almighty, if I could find whoever was responsible for stripping Americans of their sense of humor, I’d give them a serious handshake.

There’s no time for laughing around..
Right now, we're all just busy chasing ghosts in the wind..

Jack Cook7 said:I just realized this whole thread is actually about Arthur Smith15.

Look, Arthur Smith15, are you actually insane? Do you really need the entire forum spinning in circles around you? Do you have any idea how expensive and complicated it is to try and fix a broken ego in an American? For hundreds of years, the "top experts" have been trying to perform surgery on personalities like yours, and look at the pathetic results we get! It's a total disgrace to the profession. Honestly... 🤦

Arthur Smith15 is a colleague of ours, and we're all just trying to help him out here.
The real issue is his way of talking.
Who he is personally doesn't even matter.