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Dana Gonzalez75 Dana Gonzalez75 NewcomerOP
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joined Nov 2020
#1 ·
Question for the experts here,

I'm working with a Dell Inspiron laptop—it's got an Intel Core i7 5500U paired with an NVIDIA GeForce GPU,

but I've hit a bit of a wall. Here's the situation: when I power it on, there’s absolutely no video output. I’ve already tried hooking it up to an external monitor, but nothing happens—even after cycling through the function keys like F7, F8, or F9...

So, I went ahead and performed a CMOS reset by pulling the battery and waiting a couple of minutes, but no luck. The fan spins and the indicator lights come on, yet the screen remains completely dead.

What’s really strange, though—and this is the part that keeps me guessing—is that when I hit the Caps Lock key, the little LED doesn't light up. Even my external peripherals, like the mouse and keyboard, aren't getting any response. This makes me wonder: can the system even trigger a signal to an external monitor if it isn't initializing properly?

I’ve already swapped out the RAM and the hard drive—basically anything I could easily access—but the result is always the same.

Since none of those quick fixes worked, I decided to get a bit more hands-on. I pulled the motherboard out and started testing voltages. It looks like 19.5V, 3.3V, and 5V are all present, except for the voltage at the unknown ports. Because of that, I'm thinking it's likely not a Super I/O issue, nor is it a problem with the power adapter itself.

I did a thorough visual inspection too, and I didn't see any signs of liquid corrosion or any components that look burnt or suspicious.

Now, we're left with a few possibilities. At first glance, you might assume it's the dedicated graphics card, but wouldn't the system still boot up and perhaps make a sound even if the GPU was shot? Could it be the processor instead? And why would there be no voltage at the ports or any response from the Caps Lock key? Is there any way to force it to bypass the dedicated chip and use the integrated graphics built into the Intel Core i7?

Any suggestions or insights would be greatly appreciated! Thanks so much.
Karen Doyle72 Karen Doyle72 Active Member
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joined May 2013
#2 ·
Dana Gonzalez75 said:Calling all experts here,

I've got this Dell Inspiron, Intel Core i7 5500U with an NVIDIA GeForce GPU,

Here's the deal—when I power the thing on, there's absolutely no picture. Tried hooking it up to an external monitor, nothing happens (even hitting F7, F8, F9, etc., on the keyboard)...

So, I already tried a CMOS reset—pulled the battery out and waited a couple of minutes—but still nothing. The fan spins, the lights come on, but the screen stays dead.

The weird part? When I hit Caps Lock, the light doesn't even toggle, and none of my peripherals—keyboard, mouse, whatever—are getting any life. So, does it even bother trying to output to an external monitor at this point?

I've swapped out the RAM, the hard drive, everything I could think of, but it's just the same old story.

Since nothing else worked, I went full DIY mode. I pulled the motherboard and started hunting for voltages. I'm seeing 19.5V, 3.3V, and 5V everywhere... except for the unknown ports, so I'm guessing the Super I/O isn't the culprit, and it's definitely not a charger issue.

I did a visual inspection too—didn't see any liquid corrosion or any burnt components that look suspicious.

Now I'm stuck thinking it might be the graphics card, which would make sense at first glance, but wait—shouldn't the system still boot up and maybe make some noise even if the GPU is toast? Could it be the processor? And why aren't the ports getting voltage or the Caps Lock working? Is there any way to force it to use the integrated graphics from the CPU (since the Intel Core i7 has built-in HD graphics)?..

Any ideas are welcome, thanks guys.

Just leave it plugged in and running for a while, maybe overnight. Then try booting it up again tomorrow.
Kimberly Smith6 Kimberly Smith6 Member
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joined Sep 2007
#3 ·
As soon as the power just completely vanished from my USB ports, I realized the motherboard had officially kicked the bucket.
swiftowl7 swiftowl7 Member
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joined Dec 2017
#4 ·
Nicholas Long78 said:As soon as the USB ports lost power, the motherboard was basically toast.

That’s pretty much spot on—though if I were being more precise, I’d say something specific on the board just gave up the ghost.

It’s interesting because when I hit the Caps Lock key, the light doesn't come on, and none of my peripherals like the keyboard or mouse are getting any juice either, so I'm really wondering if it's even sending a signal to an external monitor.

External devices pull their 5V from the same rail as the monitor, and right now, that whole circuit is... well, dead.

After nothing worked, I decided to dig a little deeper. I pulled the motherboard out and started checking voltages; I can see 19.5V, 3.3V, and 5V present everywhere except for those USB ports, so I'm guessing it isn't the Super I/O, and it's definitely not the power adapter.

I'll start with some good news: if the main chip is still functional, it doesn't actually change the outcome here. Basically, the current flow is managed by a series of chips that take the input voltage, distribute or convert it, and then route it to a few specific points across the motherboard.

Since you already have the board out, you could try testing the voltage around the external USB ports, though honestly, it is incredibly difficult for a layman to pinpoint an actual fault like this. The failure could be anywhere along the path from the primary chip to the secondary chip that handles the voltage distribution.

If the USB voltage is sitting at 0V, I'd bet a transistor or a diode has blown. Or, if there was a short circuit, maybe a tiny surface-mount fuse popped right along with them. These components are so microscopic they're barely visible, and for someone without specialized training, it's tough to tell the difference between a resistor and a fuse that look identical but have totally different readings.

One other thing to watch out for: if you slip with the multimeter probe while the board is powered, you could accidentally cause more damage without even realizing it, and you don't want to end up completely frying the board.

If you're hoping to actually repair the fault, based on what you've described, I'd call that nearly impossible. It would be much easier and way less stressful to just swap it out for a used board, which is still a bit of a hunt, but much more doable.

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Repairing a motherboard is an incredibly expensive and complex undertaking. Even though it might seem cheaper in the US compared to some places, it's such a massive headache to do without a schematic that it usually only makes sense for extremely high-end equipment or when spare parts are impossible to find anywhere.
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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#5 ·
Since the specs aren't actually terrible, maybe they could try getting it looked at by a pro. It might just be some minor fix for a few bucks, though I guess it could end up being more than the machine is worth. For example, this shop handles motherboard repairs on laptops:

http://www.itelektronika.com
Dana Gonzalez75 Dana Gonzalez75 NewcomerOP
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#6 ·
swiftowl7 said:That’s about right—well, from a layman's perspective, anyway—though it might be more accurate to say something went wrong on the board itself.

External devices run on 5 volts just like the monitor does, and that specific circuit is... well, dead.

The good news is that if the main chip is still functional, it doesn't change much. Otherwise, you have a series of chips controlling the current flow, which takes the input voltage, splits or converts it, and then distributes it to maybe two or three different spots on the motherboard.

Since you already have the board out of the machine, you could try testing the voltage around the external unknown ports—though, honestly, it is EXTREMELY difficult for a non-expert to detect anything, let alone pinpoint a fault. That failure could be located anywhere on the path between the primary chip and the next chip responsible for distributing the voltage.

If the voltage at the unknown port is sitting at 0v (totally dead), in my opinion, a transistor or a diode has given up the ghost. Or, perhaps, if there was a short circuit, a micro-fuse might have popped right along with them. These components are so tiny they're almost invisible; for a layman, it's a nightmare trying to tell the difference between, say, a resistor and a fuse that look identical but have completely different readings.

There’s also the added risk that one single slip of the multimeter probe while the board is powered could cause even more damage without you even realizing it—so keep in mind that you could accidentally brick the entire board.

Are you actually hoping to repair the fault yourself? After seeing your questions, I’d call that nearly impossible. It would be much simpler—and far less risky—to just swap the board for a used one, though finding a good one is its own kind of headache.

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Repairing a motherboard is an INCREDIBLY expensive and complex undertaking. Even here in the States, where parts might be easier to find, it's such a massive hassle to do without a schematic that it’s really only worth it for high-end, high-value machines or when spare parts are absolutely impossible to find anywhere.

Morning! Thanks for the reply. I took a look, and there is 5v at the ports, but the connected devices won't power up. Also, there's 20v at the display connector, so the backlight should be working, but there's nothing? 😁 ....

I tried my colleague's suggestion to leave it overnight, but still, no image.

Just so you know, if I end up frying everything with the multimeter, it's not the end of the world. I'm just curious to see if we can figure out where the problem MIGHT be, because the local repair shop concluded the board is shot and that fixing it isn't worth the cost—which I already know, but hey, what do I have to lose?

Thanks again, and please let me know if anyone knows what the next step should be.
Dana Gonzalez75 Dana Gonzalez75 NewcomerOP
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joined Nov 2020
#7 ·
fadedorca66 said:Since the specs aren't actually terrible, it might be worth handing it over to a pro—maybe it’s just a minor fix costing a few bucks, though I suppose there's always the risk of it being more than the machine is worth! For instance, this shop handles motherboard repairs for laptops:

http://www.itelektronika.com

I think I'll play around with it just a little bit longer—after all, how much damage can one single paperclip really do to the motherboard? I highly doubt I'll break anything else! If I do, I'll reach out. I've heard the owner is an absolute genius when it comes to repairs. Thanks!
fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
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#8 ·
People always say repairs aren't worth it unless you're doing component-level work—because otherwise, you're just swapping out the whole motherboard—but this guy actually works at the component level... So, if you aren't ready to just toss the laptop in the trash, maybe give him a shot.
swiftowl7 swiftowl7 Member
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#9 ·
fadedorca66 said:Everyone who doesn't do component-level repairs will tell you it's not worth the money..

Actually, quite the opposite—component repair is incredibly expensive! 😁 Just replacing a single chip can run you anywhere from $500 to $333, then you have to factor in another $250 just to crack the case open, plus the cost of the chip itself, and don't even get me started on $50 diagnostics. And we haven't even touched on sales tax yet.

Honestly, it's often cheaper to just track down a used motherboard and swap it out. In many cases, for what you'd spend on a repair, you could almost put a down payment on a whole different laptop.

I tend to service my own components, but sometimes even for me, the time investment feels way too high. There are times when it makes much more sense to just order a part online if it's under $30 rather than wasting an entire day running diagnostics on a complex circuit, only to realize you still have to hunt down specific capacitors or chips. If luck isn't on your side, you might be waiting 2-3 weeks for an overseas shipment from somewhere like AliExpress, which is still usually cheaper than spending $33 on gas, parking, and sitting in traffic for a few hours just driving around Washington, D.C. trying to find a local shop that has it in stock.

Jesus. It’s definitely not that cheap. Give it a shot though. 👍

Dana Gonzalez75 said:Morning, thanks for the reply. I took a look and there's 5v at the ports, but none of the connected devices are powering up. There's also 20v at the display connector, so the backlight should be working, but there's nothing? 😁

Try plugging in something like an external hard drive, or even better, a USB stick with an LED indicator, and then measure the voltage directly on the pins inside the USB port. See if you notice a voltage drop. If the voltage stays steady, that's a good sign. Also, the device you plug in should light up if there's power flowing, assuming everything is wired correctly.

Now, regarding that backlight issue... I don't specifically work on laptop motherboards, but I work on things very similar to them. These newer "smart" components present a massive headache for repairs because they perform their own internal self-diagnostics. So, if a single LED in the screen fails, the whole device might refuse to boot. If the graphics chip is acting up, it won't boot. If there's a minor voltage drop anywhere, it won't boot. You'll just get a little blink here and there. If nothing blinks at all, well...

If the power is reaching the backlight but there's no light, and you're feeling brave enough to try a DIY fix, you'll have to disassemble the screen to reach the LED strip, which is usually located at the bottom. You can try gently pressing on them one by one to see if one of them was just poorly seated at the factory.

If that turns out to be the problem... just a heads up, it isn't a good idea to solder them back together, whether you use a standard soldering iron or a hot air station. You'll end up killing their lifespan in just a few months, regardless of what some people claim or what you see on YouTube. You really need to source a whole new replacement strip if you want reliable performance. Just something to keep in mind before you dive in, because that's where the real trouble starts.

So, to start with...

1. Try booting the laptop using only the battery.
2. Try removing the battery and booting it using only the AC adapter.

If that doesn't do the trick...

The next step involves unscrewing the bezel from the screen, just enough to pry it open slightly so you can peek into the display housing and apply some heat to the laptop. You’ll want to look for a faint white glow inside the casing right when you power it on—though if you really want to be sure, try doing this in a pitch-black room so you can catch that tiny flicker of light hitting the screen at startup.

Once we confirm there's actually light coming through the screen, you can take a hot air station and hit the graphics chip with about 300 degrees for maybe 3 to 4 seconds. The goal is to get it warmed up to roughly 122 degrees Fahrenheit before you attempt to boot the machine back up.


Just keep in mind that I'm honestly just taking a shot in the dark here. Every single manufacturer and every individual motherboard has its own unique internal layout and specific way of handling power delivery, so trying to figure out the exact mechanics via an online forum is a bit of a fool's errand.

Usually, if you take it to a pro repair shop, they'll know exactly where to start digging, but definitely watch out for those unexpected costs.
Joseph Cruz10 Joseph Cruz10 Newcomer
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#10 ·
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Dana Gonzalez75 Dana Gonzalez75 NewcomerOP
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#11 ·
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