I feel like this forum is out to get me

We’ve been extending an olive branch for days now, only for you guys to snap at it and then immediately spin up two different threads on Amtrak within forty-eight hours.

Yesterday I was the one under fire, today it’s Monty, and tomorrow it’ll probably be Zacopas or whoever else. It feels like we're just working our way through the legendary ignore list until we circle back to the beginning. Honestly, it’s becoming almost predictable at this point. 🍿

Sophia Fowler44 said:When exactly? Like, three months ago? I really don't get why you're trying to make excuses for those insults. And honestly, why do you keep bringing his family into this? What is it that makes you so obsessed with their business anyway?

Here we go! You’ve officially kicked things off by posting on the nutrition thread using this specific style:

Tina Fey said:I honestly have no clue which guy you’re talking about! I don't know what he's posting about, and more importantly, why on earth you're bringing him up to me? Haha!
I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch that! It looks like you might have sent a single letter by mistake. If you were trying to share something or ask a question, please go ahead and send it over—I'm all ears and ready to chat!So, I’m popping in here to ask for a little bit of advice! Honestly, if you’re feeling inspired to weigh in, I would absolutely love to hear your thoughts—anyone is more than welcome to join the conversation. But please, don't feel any pressure at all! If you aren't interested or don't have anything to add, there is zero need to reply. I just figured I'd throw this out there and see what you all think! I really want to say thank you to everyone here for stepping up and offering such great advice—I truly appreciate every single one of you, including you, Brenda Gonzalez12! It means the world that you all care enough to weigh in. That being said, after hearing all those different perspectives, my brother has decided to just follow his gut and do whatever feels right for him. I’ve realized there’s no point in me trying to steer him in a certain direction; he needs to make this call on his own terms, so I’m just going to step back and let him decide!

Da bi nastavila iz ničega ovako:

Tina Fey said:You’re really going to call me out on that here on the forum? You're telling me I'm the one who keeps nagging you to go somewhere where people actually know what they're talking about! 😂😵
I mean, don't I have the right to decide for myself what makes sense and what doesn't? It feels like people are trying to force their opinions on me in such an aggressive way, and honestly, looking at how this is going down, it’s starting to feel pretty much like coercion!
I honestly came here looking for some genuine advice, but instead of actually helping me, it felt like everything except those few helpful words you wrote was just a massive smear campaign against the other user who was trying to lend a hand! He actually gave some advice and told us to just do whatever we felt was best! He wasn't nearly as aggressive about pushing me off-topic like you have been.
And you’re seriously trying to tell me that everyone else on this board is just a bunch of idiots giving terrible advice? You’re really out here attempting to convince me that they're all bad—honestly! Wait, I see you’ve been posting non-stop all day! And here I thought you were supposed to be out at the beach enjoying some quality time with the family?So, if these people are bothering you this much, why on earth are you still spending so much energy writing these massive posts? Honestly! You’re practically driving me to change the subject just to get some peace!
I’ve gotta be honest—I just can't wrap my head around it. I'm sorry, but it totally makes zero sense to me!

Honestly, seeing the way you’ve been tearing down people who were just genuinely trying to be helpful? It actually made my stomach turn. I mean, seriously, it was just really hard to watch..

So, after people literally tore you apart and laid out all the receipts proving you’re just lying—basically showing everyone that you're nothing more than a fake, manufactured clone profile—you decided to write two massive, half-page essays fixated entirely on me, only to claim you're "done" responding to my posts! Honestly, I can't even with this level of deflection.
Oh boy, here comes the clone again to jump into the conversation! It’s honestly pretty hilarious because nobody was actually talking to you. Everyone was just sitting there waiting for you to drop that "miraculous weight loss hack from my imaginary brother" nonsense you posted in the nutrition thread just to derail a perfectly good discussion.

Oh man, come on! Couldn't you have made a slightly better clone profile than that? 🤦

Ethan Brooks59 said:Whoa, Daniel Davis40, I thought we actually settled things when we started that thread about toxic communication on the forums—if you’ve noticed, I haven't commented on a single one of your posts or said one nasty thing since then. We had an agreement. Yet, you immediately go after Nica.

I have no idea what kind of "agreement" you think we made, but let me be clear: I don't make deals that prevent me from speaking the truth about what's happening or calling out unacceptable behavior—especially when the people paid to moderate it fail to do their jobs. 🙂 I am not a cultist. ☕

Nicole Johnson20 said:I have absolutely no idea what kind of "agreement" you think we made, but I don't play those kinds of games where I have to stay quiet just to protect someone or pretend things aren't happening when they clearly are. I’m not the type to join some little clique and hide the truth. ☕

So, no apology planned?

And I suppose there won't be an apology for how you spent days cherry-picking and dragging Toolman's posts into threads where he called me a total slut? Sure, you deleted them, but don't think for a second the moderators can't see exactly what you did. 🍿

Richard Ramirez87 said:We’ve been reaching out to make peace for days now, but you guys just bite our hands and then go ahead and start two different threads on the forum in a single day.

Yesterday I was the target, today it's Brenda Gonzalez12, and tomorrow it'll probably be RabbitPass or whoever else. It feels like we're just going down the entire legendary "ignore list" one by one before the whole cycle starts all over again. Honestly, I can see it coming from a mile away! 🍿

I'm telling you, I'd bet anything that this whole mess is being orchestrated by that psycho Ibrahim-Pr. The guy has completely lost his mind! He’ll pump out 30 posts, wait for people to reply, and then delete everything just so he and his little clique can mock everyone for responding to "non-existent posts." He actually tripped himself up this time because he missed some quotes in one thread—he didn't manage to scrub them all before getting caught, and then he went totally silent.
It's pretty obvious what's happening: IBRAHIM-PR is intentionally and deliberately nuking the "Raw Food," "Vaccination," "Nutrition," and "Civil Discourse in Alternative Health" threads. He does it just so he can wipe his own nonsensical rambling and start fresh (using a different handle or profile) to spout the exact same nonsense all over again. On top of that, he's trying to turn his own frustrations into a way to get a permanent ban for as many of the ten forum members on his so-called "IGNORE LIST" as possible. These are the people who refuse to let him spread his incorrect, false, unverified, malicious, and corrupt ideas, "testimonies," and pseudo-medical "ADVICE" (like claiming apple seeds cure cancer, staring at paper or the sun fixes nearsightedness, how raw food cures Crohn's disease and diabetes, how vaccines are harmful, or how medical procedures are actually just killing patients) across the internet under the guise of "ALTERNATIVE advice"—even though his stuff has nothing to do with actual alternative medicine and actually just damages the reputation of legitimate alternative practitioners.

So, Leena, you’re being pretty hypocritical here, aren't you? Why didn't you say a single word about the sexism and those insults when I brought up Toolman's comments during the town hall meeting? He was hurling some seriously nasty slurs at me, all because he mistakenly thought I was a woman 🤣

But of course you stayed silent. In fact, you spent the next few days copying and pasting that post everywhere you could find an audience, only to suddenly play the victim and delete it all once things got uncomfortable

Talk about a textbook case of double standards. ☕

Nicole Johnson20 said:I honestly don't know what "agreement" you think we made, but I don't have any deals with anyone that would stop me from speaking the truth about what's actually happening or calling out excessive behavior (especially when the people paid to moderate it just let it slide). I'm not the type to join a cult or follow a pack mentality. ☕

So, what are you asking? Should I go back and re-post all those threads where you absolutely went off on me and my family? You were acting like I was some random forum user named @onebrain, using details about his life—which weren't even part of your conversation with him!—just to start attacking me, my wife, and my kids. I should probably just highlight that entire string of posts to show the waves of rage coming at you, just so you could cool off and then conveniently vanish the next day once you realized how bad you sounded.

Or maybe I should paste the posts where you were responding to Lorelei (but oops, you were using the wrong profile!) and then claimed you had every right to jump into someone else's business?

Are you suggesting I repost where you wrote this over on the FBI boards?

Look, this would be a total disaster for everyone's choices: I'm assuming your professional life is basically non-existent, considering you keep bringing up your wife and kids whom you've clearly never seen except while camping in a tent.

Oh, wait, you were the one talking about that "deal," weren't you? Or was there someone else hiding behind your profile?

Since I don't want to write an entire novel detailing my opinion on every single thing (because if I start, I won't stop!), what exactly would you all consider acceptable to post in that subforum? How can we end the mocking, the insults, and the trolling so a group of people can actually come together and have a peaceful discussion about things they care about?
(Maybe we could make a checklist of "YES" vs "NO" examples—like sharing personal experiences, stories from famous people, anecdotes from strangers, signed testimonials, stuff read online, general advice, or even just stating an opinion while explicitly labeling it as "layman's perspective," etc.)
I'm talking specifically about the alternative medicine PDF discussions.
Or if anyone has a better, more constructive suggestion for finding common ground (if my list isn't helpful enough for you).

And that whole vibe lasted less than 24 hours before IBM, Microsoft, Arsen, and then Lorelei S. jumped in. Because those characters aren't here to actually discuss things—they're here to derail topics, insult people, and find sick amusement in it. Whether it's Microsoft and whoever is actually falling for that nonsense, IBM laughing his head off while his friend struggles with a nasty flu, or Lorelei writing about her partner's preferences and comparing the taste of vegetarian versus meat-eaters... and then getting all offended when someone points out how weird that is!

It’s pretty obvious there’s one group of people who just love to write everything down, and then there's another crowd that seems more interested in other stuff—and I don't necessarily mean anything related to mental health!

Kimberly Ward said:Lorelai S, unfortunately nothing came of it—since they were reported multiple times for being insulting, the thread got locked pretty fast. Honestly, I bet the same thing will happen here, and they’ll probably just slide by without any consequences.

Oh, honey, you’re really the last person who should be lecturing anyone about being insulting! Nobody is even picking on you in the chat right now, but you totally bailed from the forums because you basically had a meltdown, and then you ended up grounded from your phone because of all the drama and name-calling.

Can we please just stick to the topic here?

Are we really going to just sit back and let this kind of blatant harassment and twisted sexism slide without any consequences again?
If that’s the plan, then what’s even the point of having the FBI around—and honestly, why bother starting any threads at all?
I’ve seen other users get flagged for way smaller stuff, yet here we are with the most disgusting insults imaginable... is this actually going to go unpunished?

Linda Harris44 said:Can we please just stick to the topic?

Are you guys seriously going to let this blatant verbal abuse and twisted sexism slide without any consequences again?
If that's the plan, what is the point of even having FEMA here? What's the sense in starting new threads at all?
Other users have been slapped with bans for way smaller offenses, yet this is basically the most offensive thing I've seen—is he really just going to walk away scot-free?

Lorelei, honestly, you're wasting your breath. He won't get sanctioned, for whatever weird reason they choose. Don't you see how he's trying to claim I'm Veronica's sister? I don't even know that woman. If you want, go dig through my old posts—I've reported him before, and that's exactly why the thread got locked. It's not just about you, though; he's disrespecting everyone. It doesn't matter if someone disagrees with an opinion; once you start hurling insults, you've crossed the line of decent conversation. The only person who actually told me the truth was Brandon Newman95. I've never seen such childish behavior anywhere else. On any other sub-forum, he would've been banned instantly for being off-topic. This thread will probably get shut down too, just because you dared to poke the "untouchable" one. That's exactly why I stopped posting in that thread entirely.

Linda Harris44 said:Please try to stay on topic.

Are we really going to let this kind of blatant harassment and twisted sexism slide without any consequences again?
If that's the case, what is even the point of FEMA, and does anyone actually see the value in starting new threads here?
Other users have been penalized for much smaller infractions, yet this is one of the most offensive insults possible—is this really going to go unpunished?

The only thing "perverted" here is you broadcasting your private life all over the internet, honey. And then you have the nerve to brag about it.
Go play saint somewhere else; now everyone knows exactly what kind of "saint" you actually are. Yikes. It’s honestly rare to encounter someone so crude and ill-mannered. Your "outrageous insults" are nothing more than reactions to how YOU have been insulting people from thread to thread. But hey... let's be "honest." Stop talking nonsense, get a grip on the foolishness you post everywhere, cool your head, AND START STAYING ON TOPIC if you want people to leave you alone.
The real issue is that whenever you hit a snag, you spout this total gibberish that proves within ten minutes that you can't hold a coherent conversation about the subject at hand. Is that carrot you're obsessing over giving you trouble? The one you claim has zero "carbs"? That was your big moment of brilliance. And look at that—it’s only been 24 hours since Ibrahim-Pr posted that ridiculous claim about fruit having no carbohydrates. It's funny how you both don't even know the same basic facts. So many "experts" out here handing out "advice" on nutrition. 🤦🤦

Maybe we should suggest stopping medical treatments altogether too?

Lorelei S said:Chemotherapy only extends life for a short while, and even if a patient is lucky enough to survive, the disease will likely relapse within a few years, leading right back to the same cycle before death eventually comes. It’s an uncertain way to live, so it might be better to explore alternative treatment methods. I wish them nothing but the best.

Kimberly Ward said:Lorelei, honestly, you're missing the point here. They aren't going to get banned, for whatever reason they feel like using. Can't you see they're calling me Veronica's sister, even though I don't even know who she is! If you really want to dig through my old posts, go ahead—I've reported things before, and those threads ended up getting locked immediately. It’s not just about you; it’s about everyone else too. It doesn't matter if someone disagrees with an opinion, but the insults started ages ago, and it has totally crossed the line for a civil discussion. The only one from that group who actually talked to me was the user jednoumlje. Seriously, I haven't seen such childish behavior anywhere else. On any other subforum, they would have been kicked out instantly for being off-topic. This thread will probably get shut down too, simply because you poked the "untouchable" one. That's why I just stopped posting in that specific thread.

Wait, hold on—where did I ever say you were Veronica's sister? Actually, it was the exact opposite! When that was mentioned, I asked you directly if that was actually you or not, just so we could clear the air and stop people from messing with you if you weren't. But instead, you just lost it and started throwing insults.

And it's definitely not true that you stopped posting; you're constantly active in the chat, helping boost China-IT's post count through all those chat games. ☕

Linda Harris44 said:Let's try to actually stay on topic here, shall we?

Well, you reap what you sow.☕

Ethan Brooks59 said:Where did I even say you were Veronica's sister? It was actually the exact opposite. When I wrote that, I was asking you point-blank if you actually were her or not just so we could clear the air—so people wouldn't keep messing with you if you aren't. But instead, you just lost it and started throwing insults.

And it’s total BS to say you stopped posting. You’re constantly in the chat, padding China-IT's post count through those little chat games. ☕

I wouldn't say that. Try reading with a bit more comprehension. I asked questions about eyes in two different places and barely got one single answer. If someone walked up to you and claimed you were Dr. Joseph or Nurse Veronica, wouldn't you react the same way? I doubt it. The first time I saw that thread on the Verified board, I honestly thought someone was just joking around. Any sane person is going to look at mainstream medicine first and then check out Alternative medicine; they don't exactly cancel each other out.

Can we please get some eyes on this? Monty ZG is still going at it in this open thread—just constant insults and bringing up my old posts over on LJS... which, honestly, I don't see how has anything to do with Alternative, let alone PZK.

Kimberly Ward said:I wouldn't put it that way. Maybe try reading between the lines a little? I actually asked two different questions specifically about eye health earlier, and I think I only got one actual answer out of it. Honestly, if someone were to call you Dr. Joseph or Nurse Veronica, wouldn't you react the exact same way? I highly doubt it. When I first saw this segment on a news program like 60 Minutes, I honestly thought someone was playing a joke on me! Any sane person is going to consult mainstream medicine first, and then look into alternative medicine—they don't have to be mutually exclusive at all.

Personally, I feel like you might have posted your question in the wrong spot. If you already tried looking on the Medicine forum (I think there’s a specific PDF guide for ophthalmology over there) and didn't get an answer, I'm really sorry to hear that—it's frustrating when you can't find a solution. But based on what I've seen here, you probably aren't going to get a helpful response anyway, and it looks like that's exactly what happened.
As for me, I truly have no idea if you are actually Nurse Veronica or not! But even if you are, if you're providing solid, logical, and sensible advice, I don't see any harm in calling yourself Nurse Veronica, Nurse Azalea, or whatever makes you feel most comfortable. In fact, I think it's the opposite! Just focus on building a reputation for giving great advice and being a real asset to everyone here. Let's aim for constructive contributions instead of being like the folks who just show up to tear things down.

Linda Harris44 said:I’d appreciate it if everyone could pay attention to how Monty Python continues to resort to cheap insults and dragging my old posts from UNESCO back into this open thread, which honestly seems to have absolutely nothing to do with the Libertarian Party, let alone the current debate.

And tell me, Lorelei, does his wife have anything to do with the Libertarian Party?

What about his kids?

Or his wife's anatomy?

How often is he getting laid?

When is he doing it?

Where and with whom is he spending his summer vacation?

Does he sleep in a tent and wear hiking boots?

Does any of that actually impact the Libertarian Party, Lorelei?☕

Linda Harris44 said:I would really appreciate it if everyone could pay attention to how Brenda Gonzalez12 keeps being incredibly rude and keeps dragging my old posts from the Lions Club back into this open thread. Honestly, I don't see what any of that has to do with the Libertarian Party, let alone the current topic at hand.

Are you actually struggling to find real arguments? Are you trying to suggest that you didn't write those posts? Or maybe that they aren't the reason you started this whole thread in the first place?
Look, you're an adult. You chose to write those things, so you should probably own up to those little gems you dropped! The fact that you choose to share your private business publicly is entirely your call but you can't really blame people for seeing them, reading them, and having an opinion. That’s why I always steer you back to the "hometown" threads whenever you start poking at my personal life. I don't broadcast my private stuff, and I certainly don't let anyone else post more than what I specifically authorize. And honestly, that's just the fundamental difference between us.

Linda Harris44 said:Hey there. I’m asking nicely here—I really need a response from a moderator or an admin.

For the last few days, Brenda Gonzalez12 has been relentlessly hounding me on this forum, throwing nothing but insults and being completely out of line.
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Do you even remember how this whole mess actually started? It all began with you people—those fake Libertarian Party types—just relentlessly attacking a man simply because he had the guts to point out what an absolute monster and cultist leader that Ibro guy really is.
Furthermore, I honestly don't see what the big deal is or where the insult lies when someone simply points back to your own damn post where you explicitly stated that you enjoy swallowing semen. You’re the one who put those words out there into the world, so why on earth would you act all embarrassed about it now? It’s your own admission, after all.

Linda Harris44 said:Ever since this particular user joined the Libertarian Party forums, they’ve been running around trashing every single discussion thread in sight. It’s like they treat every topic—from dietetics and raw food debates to this current mess about holistic medicine—as nothing more than a personal playground for their own crude, offensive outbursts.
And all of this is happening simply because there aren't any damn sanctions in place to stop them.
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That’s just not true, and frankly, it’s nothing more than a blatant, intentional lie. If you actually bother to look, you can easily find Monty's body of work over at the Libertarian Party. Everything that has spiraled out of control over this past year can be traced directly back to the moment we started exposing the absolute garbage being peddled by these so-called "alternative" pundits. Once we stripped away the mask and proved they were nothing but frauds and pathological liars spreading misinformation, everything shifted, leading us right to the mess we’re dealing with today. And now, to top it all off, we have the fact that Lorelei shut down the entire thread because—and I quote—
Everything about this thread has gone completely off the rails, and frankly, the sense of direction is totally lost; it’s like we've veered straight into a ditch where common sense goes to die. Look, I have absolutely nothing against discussing alternative approaches or looking into different ways of handling health, but there is a massive, glaring line that we simply cannot cross. We cannot be in the business of encouraging people to just toss modern medicine out the window or disregard what their doctors are telling them. It is irresponsible, plain and simple. We absolutely must not promote methods that have been scientifically proven to be harmful or dangerous, because once you start playing fast and loose with actual medical facts, you're heading toward a disaster.
Because of all that nonsense coming out of China, these fake-deep pseudo-libertarians have decided to direct almost all of their misplaced anger and pure hatred toward Monty Python instead. It’s pathetic, really. They aren't even debating policy anymore; they’ve resorted to tearing him down personally by attacking his weight and dragging his family into the mud. It has actually escalated to the point where he’s been getting harassed with abusive text messages. It’s just low-class behavior, plain and simple.
Thank God Brenda Gonzalez12 actually knows exactly who is behind this mess, and honestly, I’m just sitting here hoping that whoever pulled this stunt gets hit with the full force of the law very soon.
Personally, if someone had the nerve to send me an insulting text message and I actually knew who was behind it, I’d have a serious problem with that.
I honestly can’t imagine anyone else having the nerves of steel that Brenda Gonzalez12 possesses. If it were Guru, he would have been absolutely broken by now.

I really need to point out that everything Brenda Gonzalez12 is claiming Monty said to be offensive is just plain false. Honestly, the guy is simply standing his ground and firing back against the insults that were thrown at him first. I truly don't see any valid reason why Monty should face any kind of punishment, regardless of how much Swallow Girl keeps pushing for it.
At the end of the day, regarding this whole debate over swallowing semen—which, frankly, is just an insult to any woman who chooses to do it—one guy on the forum had the nerve to tell her she basically wrote a PhD dissertation on the subject. And look, the comment itself didn't even offend her, but bringing up that specific post? That’s where it crosses the line. It’s just unnecessary.

I honestly don't get what her deal is. She acts like she's this ultra-strict vegan saint, looking down on anyone who even touches meat. It’s actually pretty gross how much she obsesses over posting about how meat and processed products cause cancer.

Linda Harris44 said:What beautiful food photos! Just compare those to pictures of dead animals.

Linda Harris44 said:Hehehe, good one!
Except for the fact that people eating a standard omnivorous diet end up suffering through endless doctor visits from age 40 until the day they die.

She goes on and on about how "meat smells bad," how it "makes her nauseous," and how she "can't stand the scent of meat" (or animal proteins, whatever). And then, out of nowhere, she drops two posts that completely contradict everything she's been preaching for months—even years! It's so obvious she's just making things up, because she literally admits right there that she consumes animal proteins (since humans are animals, not plants—that's just science!) and that she feels great doing it.
In the nutrition thread.
Is it really that frustrating to get caught in a lie? Especially when you've spent years insisting something is absolutely revolting? That’s really the crux of the whole thing.

And her reaction? It just perfectly shows her "intellect," her mindset, and how she processes things. Here's a 30-year-old at the peak of her cognitive abilities, and her big contribution is saying, "Oh, I just provide my loved ones with pleasures," posted in a NUTRITION THREAD (as if anyone cares about that or if it even matters to the topic!). And then she spends the entire morning causing all this drama.
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