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Regarding the discussion about the Smith family's eviction, news surfaced during the debate suggesting that the entire eviction process was actually illegal.

In the final comment, where it was explicitly pointed out that the police used force to carry out an act that was, quite frankly, unlawful, Brian Edwards6 deleted the post—presumably so that the very last word would belong to someone more compliant with the regime or the police—and then promptly closed the thread.

It appears to me that even posts failing to toe the party line have been scrubbed from this space.

To be perfectly clear: the deportation was an illegal act, much as the latest news reports confirm; the police used excessive force, as evidenced by those harrowing videos showing officers grabbing people by their limbs and dragging them across the pavement; and we are currently witnessing a one-party state right here, given that any dissent in the locked thread was promptly deleted by the authorities.

They even wiped away the comments pointing out the government’s predatory lending practices—how they are attempting to seize homes worth ten times the actual debt, all over a measly $30000 (roughly $13,000), just to throw families onto the street...

feralranger, hey, just take a breather, okay... I'm gonna get this thread started, I'm just waiting on Brian Edwards6 to hop back online so we can hammer out a few details first. And honestly, those deleted posts have nothing to do with any kind of political agenda, anyone looking at them can see exactly why they had to go...

crimsonsailor7 said:feralranger, hey, just take a breather, okay... I'm gonna get this thread started, I'm just waiting on Brian Edwards6 to hop back online so we can hammer out a few details first. And honestly, those deleted posts have nothing to do with any kind of political agenda, anyone looking at them can see exactly why they had to go...

I am perfectly calm, thank you very much. Why the sudden ad hominem attack? Ah, right—when one lacks actual arguments, one inevitably resorts to attacking the person instead.

Of course those posts are connected; even if they hadn't been scrubbed, there would undoubtedly be plenty of people willing to point out the obvious connections.

Frankly, if my assessment weren't correct, they wouldn't bother deleting anything; they would simply leave the posts up as "proof" of their claims. But that is precisely what they fear—that people might actually see the truth. And so, they pivot to "arguments" like "just calm down," which is a truly pathetic and uninspired ad hominem attempt.

Furthermore, I posed a very specific question: now that it is clear the entire mass expulsion was illegal, how should people go about seeking damages from the police department involved in such an unlawful relocation? Compensation should be sought for the psychological and physical distress endured, as well as for the unlawful restriction of movement imposed by those authorities.

If questions of this nature are considered off-limits, then it is painfully obvious that we are living under a regime-driven police state, where this forum possesses no true freedom, but is merely a mouthpiece for a single-minded authority.

I won't drag this out any longer; the thread is now open for legal inquiries. As for why it was shut down in the first place, it largely comes down to specific segments of your previous comments, such as:

... It was exactly those kinds of "arguments" used by people who served Germany during the Nazi era...

Yes, that particular snippet is just a fraction of your comment, and I'll admit it was taken out of context. However, posts like that are precisely what we try to prevent in threads like this. This is the Law sub-forum, yet the discussion keeps veering off into politics, history, and whatnot. There was a warning posted on the thread, so I’m going to ask you personally to please stick to the rules.👍

crimsonsailor7 said:feralranger, hey, just take a breather, okay... I'm gonna get this thread started, I'm just waiting on Brian Edwards6 to hop back online so we can hammer out a few details first. And honestly, those deleted posts have nothing to do with any kind of political agenda, anyone looking at them can see exactly why they had to go...

And where exactly did Brian Edwards6 disappear to? Was it just following orders from on high?

I honestly wonder what it would take for you to move this thread over to the Politics section. It would allow us to actually discuss people without having to deal with this constant legalistic and police-style censorship. I suspect the moderators over there wouldn't have any issue letting a topic like this slide.

EDIT: I see that... 👍Thirteen has returned to the fold, but my proposal regarding the reallocation still stands.

bluecyclist64 said:And where exactly did Brian Edwards6 disappear to? Was it just following orders from on high?

I honestly wonder what it would take for you to move this thread over to the Politics section. It would allow us to actually discuss people without having to deal with this constant legalistic and police-style censorship. I suspect the moderators over there wouldn't have any issue letting a topic like this slide.

EDIT: I see that... 👍Thirteen has returned to the fold, but my proposal regarding the reallocation still stands.

We can always start a brand new discussion and just drop a link back to the original legal debate.
But honestly, looking at it now, I’d say this one belongs much closer to the Politics section.

At its core, though, we're dealing with a legal issue here.
If you feel like certain regulations really need to be overhauled, then by all means, go ahead and kick off a new thread in Politics.

p.s. The thread in the Legal section has been reopened.

bluecyclist64 said:And where exactly did Brian Edwards6 disappear to? Was it just following orders from on high?

I honestly wonder what it would take for you to move this thread over to the Politics section. It would allow us to actually discuss people without having to deal with this constant legalistic and police-style censorship. I suspect the moderators over there wouldn't have any issue letting a topic like this slide.

EDIT: I see that... 👍Thirteen has returned to the fold, but my proposal regarding the reallocation still stands.

That’s exactly how it is... 👍 Man, I swear we actually had something like RL back in the day, whether people want to believe it or not...

bluecyclist64 said:And where exactly did Brian Edwards6 disappear to? Was it just following orders from on high?

I honestly wonder what it would take for you to move this thread over to the Politics section. It would allow us to actually discuss people without having to deal with this constant legalistic and police-style censorship. I suspect the moderators over there wouldn't have any issue letting a topic like this slide.

EDIT: I see that... 👍Thirteen has returned to the fold, but my proposal regarding the reallocation still stands.

Out on the street.😉

bluecyclist64 said:And where exactly did Brian Edwards6 disappear to? Was it just following orders from on high?

I honestly wonder what it would take for you to move this thread over to the Politics section. It would allow us to actually discuss people without having to deal with this constant legalistic and police-style censorship. I suspect the moderators over there wouldn't have any issue letting a topic like this slide.

EDIT: I see that... 👍Thirteen has returned to the fold, but my proposal regarding the reallocation still stands.

To echo what our colleague from the Politics board suggested: if anyone feels the urge for a more open debate, feel free to start a new thread in that subforum. It’s not an issue that the topic is currently sitting under Law; the real issue is that discussions in the Politics section are supposed to focus on the legal aspects of the matter, which hasn't exactly been the case here. A few comments have been scrubbed and the thread will remain open, but I should warn you—off-topic rambling and similar diversions will be deleted.👍

crimsonsailor7 said:That’s exactly how it is... 👍 Man, I swear we actually had something like RL back in the day, whether people want to believe it or not...

Maybe you do.🙂

I’ve noticed a few times now that this moderator Brian Edwards6 keeps shutting down the thread just to reopen it immediately, and honestly, I can't help but laugh at how ridiculous that looks! 🤷
If you aren't quite sure what you're doing as a moderator, then why even take the role? People completely lose interest in a discussion when you keep killing the momentum by closing it, and you're constantly toggling that lock like you're just playing around with buttons for fun! It would be much better if you just left the thread open and focused on deleting specific posts or steering the conversation back on track whenever someone goes off-topic, rather than slamming the whole thing shut every time someone says something slightly off-base 🙄

Quite the opposite, actually. I’m certain of it. My intention in closing the thread was simply to save everyone some time, reduce the clutter, and stop the endless scrolling through redundant posts. Most of those who were interested—and subsequently removed—aren't actually looking to dive into the legal intricacies of this situation anyway. They just want to vent their frustrations regarding the government, federal agencies, or the various parties involved. While that need to blow off steam is perfectly valid and understandable, this particular forum isn't the place for it.👍

I’m sorry, but that is just a total pile of nonsense because this forum exists specifically for people to write 🤷
Just let people talk! If someone starts rambling about stuff that’s totally off-topic, you can delete those specific posts or lock the thread if you really feel like it, but I honestly think it’s way too radical and frankly unprofessional to shut a whole topic down just to reopen it later. Once a thread is closed, it should stay closed—unless there's some really special reason, of course—and you’ve started making this a regular thing here lately, which is just frustrating! You have no idea how annoying it is to see a locked thread when you want to jump in and reply, only to find out it’s been reopened a few days later. It feels completely pointless, don't you think? 😕

To me, it looks like you're being indecisive by closing a thread just so you can figure out what to do next, but honestly, what’s the big deal if someone drops a couple of off-topic comments? Someone might report them, or even if they don't, those random posts will just get buried under a mountain of actual on-topic discussion anyway, and at the end of the day, you guys are right there to steer the conversation back on track if it ever truly wanders off

I’m not saying this just to you, either, but to all the mods, even though I haven't noticed anyone else doing this lately. Personally, I think you guys are some of the absolute best moderators on this entire politics forum! There are plenty of you, but you are truly experienced and incredibly reasonable, so if you're one of the newer mods, maybe try following the lead of the veteran ones to see how they handle things, because none of us know everything and we're all still learning as we go 🤷

Brian Edwards6 said:I won't drag this out any longer; the thread is now open for legal inquiries. As for why it was shut down in the first place, it largely comes down to specific segments of your previous comments, such as:

... It was exactly those kinds of "arguments" used by people who served Germany during the Nazi era...

Yes, that particular snippet is just a fraction of your comment, and I'll admit it was taken out of context. However, posts like that are precisely what we try to prevent in threads like this. This is the Law sub-forum, yet the discussion keeps veering off into politics, history, and whatnot. There was a warning posted on the thread, so I’m going to ask you personally to please stick to the rules.👍

My points were entirely relevant to the subject at hand. Why does the presentation of facts seem to bother you so much? Furthermore, the film I referenced addresses exactly what happens to a society when the ideal of mindless obedience is glorified.

For instance, in Spain, there were instances where police officers decided they would simply refuse to carry out deportations— link.

In other words, even law enforcement officers (as well as legal professionals) are capable of exercising both intellect and empathy. The question remains: why do you all insist on celebrating such narrow-mindedness and blind compliance? It seems that on this forum—this space meant for actual debate there is significantly less room for critical thinking than there is in the minds of those Spanish police officers. Everything here appears subservient to the blind execution of the law.

Granted, that particular example is extreme, but it serves as a clear illustration of where a society ends up when it follows orders without a shred of thought. And I stated quite accurately that many of the enforcers in Nazi Germany utilized that exact same line of reasoning. That is, quite simply, a historical fact. If someone lacks such basic knowledge through their own general education, they could at least attempt to watch a serious film instead of drowning in soap operas, "Police Academy" comedies, and the various other pieces of trash people consume when they've collectively decided to stop using their brains.

silverviper3 said:I’m sorry, but that is just a total pile of nonsense because this forum exists specifically for people to write 🤷
Just let people talk! If someone starts rambling about stuff that’s totally off-topic, you can delete those specific posts or lock the thread if you really feel like it, but I honestly think it’s way too radical and frankly unprofessional to shut a whole topic down just to reopen it later. Once a thread is closed, it should stay closed—unless there's some really special reason, of course—and you’ve started making this a regular thing here lately, which is just frustrating! You have no idea how annoying it is to see a locked thread when you want to jump in and reply, only to find out it’s been reopened a few days later. It feels completely pointless, don't you think? 😕

To me, it looks like you're being indecisive by closing a thread just so you can figure out what to do next, but honestly, what’s the big deal if someone drops a couple of off-topic comments? Someone might report them, or even if they don't, those random posts will just get buried under a mountain of actual on-topic discussion anyway, and at the end of the day, you guys are right there to steer the conversation back on track if it ever truly wanders off

I’m not saying this just to you, either, but to all the mods, even though I haven't noticed anyone else doing this lately. Personally, I think you guys are some of the absolute best moderators on this entire politics forum! There are plenty of you, but you are truly experienced and incredibly reasonable, so if you're one of the newer mods, maybe try following the lead of the veteran ones to see how they handle things, because none of us know everything and we're all still learning as we go 🤷

As I mentioned before, I decided to lock the thread to save everyone the hassle of constant deletions and moderation cleanup. That said, I’ll admit you have a point—I could have left it open while handling the necessary housekeeping in parallel. I'll make sure to handle it that way next time.👍

P.S.: I didn't want to bother replying while you were still under suspension.👍

feralranger said:My points were entirely relevant to the subject at hand. Why does the presentation of facts seem to bother you so much? Furthermore, the film I referenced addresses exactly what happens to a society when the ideal of mindless obedience is glorified.

For instance, in Spain, there were instances where police officers decided they would simply refuse to carry out deportations— link.

In other words, even law enforcement officers (as well as legal professionals) are capable of exercising both intellect and empathy. The question remains: why do you all insist on celebrating such narrow-mindedness and blind compliance? It seems that on this forum—this space meant for actual debate there is significantly less room for critical thinking than there is in the minds of those Spanish police officers. Everything here appears subservient to the blind execution of the law.

Granted, that particular example is extreme, but it serves as a clear illustration of where a society ends up when it follows orders without a shred of thought. And I stated quite accurately that many of the enforcers in Nazi Germany utilized that exact same line of reasoning. That is, quite simply, a historical fact. If someone lacks such basic knowledge through their own general education, they could at least attempt to watch a serious film instead of drowning in soap operas, "Police Academy" comedies, and the various other pieces of trash people consume when they've collectively decided to stop using their brains.

Would you actually find it acceptable if someone owed you money, yet they simply refused to pay up? Or perhaps you’d be perfectly fine with a situation where a tenant refuses to vacate your property, the courts drag their feet on an eviction order, and then the local police refuse to actually enforce it? Honestly, I can't imagine anyone finding that kind of systemic failure remotely palatable.😕

Brian Edwards6 said:As I mentioned before, I decided to lock the thread to save everyone the hassle of constant deletions and moderation cleanup. That said, I’ll admit you have a point—I could have left it open while handling the necessary housekeeping in parallel. I'll make sure to handle it that way next time.👍

P.S.: I didn't want to bother replying while you were still under suspension.👍

Would you actually find it acceptable if someone owed you money, yet they simply refused to pay up? Or perhaps you’d be perfectly fine with a situation where a tenant refuses to vacate your property, the courts drag their feet on an eviction order, and then the local police refuse to actually enforce it? Honestly, I can't imagine anyone finding that kind of systemic failure remotely palatable.😕

But how on earth does that even relate to the case at hand? On one side of the ledger, you have a family—real people with actual lives being upended—and on the other, you have a government behaving in this utterly absurd manner. I find myself once again staring at a dead link, which, in a truly poetic display of modern digital incompetence, serves as a perfect metaphor for my own life's trajectory. It appears the connection I was so eagerly anticipating has vanished into the ether, leaving me to wander this vast, empty expanse of the internet without direction or purpose. One might even argue there is a certain tragicomedy in searching for substance only to be met with a broken pathway. He's essentially treating his bank account like a sieve, just letting cash pour out without a second thought. And there are countless examples of that to be found..

Furthermore, the government entity that actually initiated the foreclosure process didn't end up receiving a single cent. Not even a cent to my name.Instead, she’s just inherited a massive influx of homeless populations who will undoubtedly become a heavy burden on the community. Is there any way to be more shortsighted than that? Honestly, when people cling to the letter of the law with the mindless, stumbling desperation of a drunkard clutching at a fence, everyone loses—except, of course, for some profiteering Canadian opportunist looking to cash in on everyone else's misery.

Even the police were complicit in this mess; instead of actually acting with some semblance of morality, they just went along with it—much like the behavior of those Spanish police officers I linked to earlier.

Beyond the sheer immorality of placing such arbitrary paragraphs ahead of actual human lives, there was also the blatant illegality of the whole affair; the creditor failed to secure the necessary arrangements for the disposal of property, which is an absolute prerequisite for any lawful execution of duties.

Furthermore, we have yet to receive any actual answer regarding why those police officers decided to participate in a deportation that was—to put it mildly—not only morally bankrupt but also entirely illegal under our own laws.

And why on earth, I ask you, is it that such questions are strictly forbidden, only to be promptly scrubbed from existence?

Let me rephrase my question for you:

Would you actually be comfortable with someone owing you money, or having an intruder in your home, while the court refuses to issue an eviction order or the police simply decline to enforce it?😕

And I’ll throw one more in there for good measure:

How exactly are we supposed to decide which laws the police get to follow and which ones they can just ignore at their discretion?😕

Honestly, you guys really should have moved this whole debate over to the legal subforum, because if you had, we wouldn't even be cluttering up the main board with this topic right now

Brian Edwards6 said:Let me rephrase my question for you:

Would you actually be comfortable with someone owing you money, or having an intruder in your home, while the court refuses to issue an eviction order or the police simply decline to enforce it?😕

And I’ll throw one more in there for good measure:

How exactly are we supposed to decide which laws the police get to follow and which ones they can just ignore at their discretion?😕

My expectation—which I realize may be overly optimistic—is that legal professionals, IRS agents, and police officers actually possess a brain and, more importantly, know how to USE it. Instead, we have people left homeless and becoming a burden on the state, while the government hasn't seen a single cent in return. Is there any way to be more incompetent? It’s all utterly futile when people lack the basic capacity for logic, leaving nothing behind but some slimy opportunist profiting from the chaos.

Not only did the government fail to collect a dime, but the whole ordeal involved police misconduct, and the entire eviction was legally unsound because the creditor failed to provide any reasonable means for disposing of the property.

Once again, Brian Edwards6 is deleting posts because he fails to grasp that you don't "demonstrate" double criteria by simply showing them—you illustrate them by providing a different case study.

To be perfectly clear, my links are directly relevant to the topic insofar as they serve to exemplify the concept of double criteria.

Furthermore, the examples provided in those links vividly demonstrate that, if one were to put it quite colorfully:

Refusing to fill a bag (which others are busy looting) and stealing from it are certainly not the same thing.

hollowtrucker77 said:Honestly, you guys really should have moved this whole debate over to the legal subforum, because if you had, we wouldn't even be cluttering up the main board with this topic right now

Given that these questions are effectively unanswerable—as the attached evidence clearly demonstrates—there isn't actually a debate happening here, and frankly, this kind of commentary doesn't belong in the Legal subforum anyway.👍