US Grand Prix - Indianapolis Motor Speedway 09.02.2018

crimsonhawk23 said:I’ve said it five times now—there are zero restrictions on how this is used. Seriously, go grab a dictionary and look up what the word restriction actually means...

Doesn't the DRS automatically close when they hit the brakes?

The DRS will automatically be disabled (resetting the rear wing flap to its original position) the first time the driver uses the brakes after activation.

Not all drivers would be ready for the same level of risk—so someone might close it up a bit earlier during braking, someone a bit later, and someone (looking at you, Max Verstappen) even later than everyone else.

neonfox65 said:I actually asked you this earlier:

Just tell me if I'm right or wrong here—I'm honestly not sure myself.

neonfox65 said:Oh, wait, found it.

And then you write this:

So, who's the crazy one here? How could someone be closing the door BEFORE braking unless they were already braking?

crimsonhawk23 said:Kevin Magnussen just showed everyone he’s not one to back down... ☕

Honestly, asking me who Otmar Szafnauer is... that really makes me think you don't have access to a single search engine...

neonfox65 said:Look, please stop messing with me. Here’s the official site https://www.formula1.com/en/champion...on_System.html

And what does it say about the part I quoted—that it closes automatically when braking?

I just didn't feel like typing it all out; I figured you could do the work for me.

crimsonhawk23 said:It would be easy for teams to figure out if a driver actually has the guts to clear a section without error while running an open DRS, especially with someone else breathing down their neck with theirs open, too. It might not swing the results significantly, but it would certainly make things more interesting. Anyway, Formula 1 leadership wants to reduce aero—downforce, really—taking a page out of the IndyCar playbook, and this would achieve both goals.

Because the current Mercedes-Benz wouldn't be able to navigate almost an entire track with an open DRS, whereas Red Bull could likely handle at least half the tracks on the calendar. That might actually close the gap a little. Eventually, everyone would adapt to the point where everything comes down to the driver's ability to push to the absolute limit. I think we can all agree that Carlos Sainz is a better driver than Lance Stroll, or Daniel Ricciardo over Nico Hulkenberg. Then you throw Max into the mix, since he's constantly dancing on the edge, which creates those interesting scenarios where one person brakes at 40m while another does it at 34. Six of one, half dozen of the other...

stormybadger8 said:What absolute dreamers you all are 🤣

This is a tactical masterstroke by Vettel, truly brilliant 🙏
It’s called killing three birds with one stone 🙂

1. He starts ahead of Hamilton, yet right next to him...
2. Kimi starts directly in front of Hamilton, and we all know how Kimi handles starts...
3. Kimi is signing a new deal with Ferrari tonight 🙂

The race will clearly end with Vettel, Kimi, and Hamilton in the top spots ☕

Ferrari could potentially pivot toward supporting Vettel for the title—just to squeeze out more points against Hamilton—and might even lean on team orders at the Italian Grand Prix if Kimi Raikkonen manages to hold onto pole position during Sunday ahead of Vettel.

However, when pressed on whether Raikkonen would be given the green light to take the win tomorrow, Vettel noted: “If he’s starting from pole, I guess he’s allowed to win. It’s a long race. Obviously he wants to win, I want to win. Hopefully one of us will win.”

Vettel: I guess Kimi Raikkonen is allowed to win

crimsonhawk23 said:Maybe try learning how to read. And hey—work on being a bit more polite... putting words in someone else's mouth isn't it. Where on earth did you see me say someone closes the DRS before braking? You're making things up. But since reading seems to be a struggle for you, let me help out a bit:

Not all drivers would be ready for the same level of risk, so someone might close it a little early during braking, someone later, and someone else—like Max—even later than everyone else.

Man, what a guy... 😵 I just said if they lifted the restrictions, anyone could use it whenever they wanted based on their own skill and ability, and this troll jumps on the fact that I didn't explicitly mention the part about not closing it during braking. 🤣

Clearly, some people just can't grasp that braking is totally different when you're flying into a corner with the DRS open versus having it closed, which is how it works everywhere outside the DRS zones now.🤦

neonfox65 said:That’s what you said—if I recall correctly.

What I was actually asking you was this—how would someone even manage to block him during braking BEFORE it happened, unless they had already started braking earlier?

Still waiting on an answer, I guess. 🙂

neonfox65 said:Well, you already mentioned up above that Kevin Magnussen showed he isn't easily shut out—and then you sent me that ridiculous link!🤦

neonfox65 said:I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that—I guess I might have misread the situation.🤦 I honestly can't wrap my head around you—you seem completely lost. In that other thread, you were actually trying to convince me that Esteban Ocon wasn't even defending himself.🤦 Now we're getting into some nonsense regarding DRS—I guess.

crimsonhawk23 said:Try learning how to read. And maybe pick up some manners too, because putting words in someone else's mouth isn't polite. Where did you see me say anyone closes the DRS before braking? You're imagining things. Since reading seems to be such a struggle for you, let me help you out:

Unless you're colorblind (which wouldn't surprise me), you'll notice I actually mentioned braking there—I even specified the distance. But fine, keep trolling and being difficult. At least it's something you're good at, since reading clearly isn't.

What an idiot. 😵 All I said was that once they lift the restrictions, whoever wants to use it should be able to, based on what the drivers can actually handle. Yet this troll latches onto something I didn't even mention regarding closing it during braking. 🤣 It’s obvious some people just don't get that there's a massive difference between approaching a corner with the DRS open versus having it closed like it is everywhere outside the zones right now. 🤦

Nicholas Newman2 said:I actually got flagged myself—just trying to explain to a guy that life isn't always meant to be taken so literally. Apparently, my attempt to point out that kind of literalism was enough to get me in trouble with several folks here on the forum.

I suggested he might help himself—and perhaps others—by using a bit more imagination. After a few fruitless posts, I realized he lacks that spark; he seems to be somewhat deficient in creativity, which I suppose didn't sit well with some people.

Nicholas Newman2 said:To stay on topic—as I mentioned in a previous post that a moderator also deleted—Sebastian Vettel at Monza could take the win, and maybe even the title.

crimsonhawk23 said:Kevin Magnussen showed he wasn't being cut off ☕

It's right there in what you just quoted. If you'd stop nitpicking and actually use your brain, you'd see it says someone would have cut him off *during* braking. Get it? He’d be braking. He’d be cut off *while* braking. The act of braking is what closes the DRS. Driver A brakes before Driver B—I even specified the distances, the 40 and 34 meters. It's roughly the difference in our IQ levels (man, if I get a ban for this...).

Of course you can't wrap your head around it.

Guys, can we move this DRS debate to a different thread? We're going to lose the plot here after just a few pages of posts.

Richard Walker38 said:
It’s nice to see this 👍