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How Valium secretly destroys lives

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Participants slyhawk18Nicole JamesBrandon Newman95velvetmoose9Christian Wilson28jadetinker85Melissa Sanchez8Laura Castillo6John Martin18Harold Cook2
slyhawk18 slyhawk18 NewcomerOP
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joined Aug 2018
#1 ·
Hi everyone. As you can probably tell from the title, I want to share the full story regarding how Valium affects mental health—it’s damaging hundreds of people without them even realizing it. I want to emphasize that I am speaking from a psychological perspective, inspired by real events and facts. My goal here is to seek advice and hear about your experiences, regardless of how much you know. I'm talking about someone who has been on this medication for years; it's a full-blown addiction, and the withdrawal process has been incredibly grueling and unsuccessful. The main POINT is that consuming these pills causes constant personality shifts. The person changes their entire outlook, becomes aggressive, uses strange vocabulary, acts lethargic, and turns physically hostile toward everyone. They change so fundamentally that they become unrecognizable—it has actually escalated to a level that feels like living under terror. I’m curious, what is it about these pills that is so "magical" that they cause such an impact? The instructions clearly state it's a sedative, yet it seems to produce the exact opposite effect. It haunts me to think that this isn't just happening to them, but affecting everyone around them too. Unfortunately, I don't have the means to contact the manufacturer directly, but since I am a direct participant in this daily "terror," it is weighing heavily on me. Does anyone know more about this? Any advice or thoughts?
I've kept this brief because the psyche is such a deep subject that I don't want to get lost in it.
Best,
Nicole James Nicole James Regular
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#2 ·
As far as I understand, Valium isn't actually an antidepressant—it's a sedative. It carries a real risk of dependency, making it a pretty tricky medication that most doctors try to avoid prescribing for long-term use.
slyhawk18 slyhawk18 NewcomerOP
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#3 ·
Gregory Turner71 said:As far as I know, Valium isn't actually an antidepressant—it's a sedative. It’s highly addictive and can be a real nightmare if you use it long-term, so most people try to avoid it.

Well, look at that. It seems like doctors are constantly mislabeling it as an antidepressant. I have to agree with you on this one.
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#4 ·
Valium is basically just an anxiolytic or a sedative.
velvetmoose9 velvetmoose9 Active Member
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#5 ·
slyhawk18 said:Yeah, honestly, doctors just keep insisting it's an antidepressant like they're reading from a script. I'm right there with you on this one.

You’re pretty much the only "doctor" in this thread acting like Valium is some kind of antidepressant ☕
Christian Wilson28 Christian Wilson28 Member
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joined Nov 2018
#6 ·
I agree with what everyone said above—plus, everything you’re mentioning is clearly listed right there on the side effect handout that comes with the medication. Basically—if it doesn't feel right, change it.
slyhawk18 slyhawk18 NewcomerOP
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#7 ·
velvetmoose9 said:You're the only "doctor" in this group who keeps insisting that Valium is an antidepressant. ☕

Look, I messed up, and that’s that. My goal was simply to get some practical advice, not to trigger a continuous philosophical debate over whether this is a sedative or an antidepressant—for heaven's sake. There really isn't any need for comments like that when I've already admitted my mistake.
slyhawk18 slyhawk18 NewcomerOP
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#8 ·
Maria Fowler15 said:Everything mentioned above, along with all those details, is clearly listed on the side effect handout you get with the prescription. Basically—if it doesn't work for you, switch medications.

If I already knew the answer, I wouldn't be wasting my time posting here. Like I said before, we are dealing with dependency, and attempts to taper off have failed. The person simply isn't ready or willing to quit, which is why I am asking for insight into why this happens. If the information were readily available, I wouldn't be spending my time on this forum.🙂
jadetinker85 jadetinker85 Regular
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#9 ·
slyhawk18 said:If I didn't have something worth saying, I wouldn't be wasting my breath here. Like I said, we're talking about addiction, and the attempt to quit failed. When someone isn't motivated to stop, you start looking for the "why" behind it. I’m asking for advice, not just venting. I don't spend time on this site for no reason.🙂

No addict actually wants to get clean. As for Normabale, a buddy of mine in Germany was denied it because they flagged it as too addictive; instead, he was prescribed some liquid sedative for his anxiety.
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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joined Mar 2015
#10 ·
slyhawk18 said:I'm trying to wrap my head around what makes these pills so "magical" that they have such an intense effect. The label clearly states it's a sedative, so it should be doing the exact opposite... It worries me that this isn't just happening to her, but potentially everyone else too. Sadly, I don't have any way to get in touch with the manufacturer directly, but being right in the middle of this daily "terror" is really getting to me.

Developing an addiction is only half the battle. Benzodiazepines cause cognitive issues so severe that some scientific studies actually link them to dementia and Alzheimer's disease.

But yeah, they're still everywhere, used by all kinds of age groups.
Here's a link to a summary of one of those studies if you want to dive in. There are plenty more out there, too.

I'm not sure how reversible the damage is once it sets in, but they really should only be prescribed and taken as a last resort when there's absolutely no other option...
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#11 ·
Look, this forum is really just a space for us to swap stories and experiences. If you’re wondering why a specific reaction is happening, you really need to talk to the doctor who actually wrote the prescription (if there's even anyone like that active here in the US).
Every single medication comes with its own set of side effects. Valium, for instance, is meant to be used under strict medical supervision, and you should try to keep the usage as short as possible specifically because of the dependency risk.

I see it all the time—patients just stop listening. They get discharged from the hospital and then decide to go rogue, taking meds however they feel like instead of following the actual instructions. There are all sorts of ways people handle it, but honestly, just ask your psychiatrist.

As for the link between certain drugs and Alzheimer's, the latest research suggests that insomnia might actually be a much bigger trigger for the buildup of those brain-damaging plaques. See, when you get decent, long-lasting sleep, your brain basically does its own housekeeping by clearing out those harmful proteins. But of course, the second insomnia hits, everyone reaches straight for the Normabell.

I mean, who actually has the energy to deal with all those side effects anyway...?
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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#12 ·
Daniel Foster59 said:Valium should only be used under strictly controlled circumstances and for the shortest time possible..

Who actually has the energy to worry about all those side effects...?

What "controlled circumstances" are we even talking about?

It’s not about obsessing over side effects. It’s about actual communication with the patient—explaining that Valium is addictive. Most doctors don't bother.

My mom's family doctor prescribed her Valium without ever mentioning the risks or saying there was a time limit on it. She just kept getting refills whenever she needed them. The doctor set the med and the dose, and that was it.
People are left in the dark. They aren't informed, and while side effects exist for everyone, most people have no clue what they're actually facing.
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#13 ·
Man, people love complaining to the government about how we don't have enough experienced doctors out there 😁.

I was once on Normabel, which is a benzodiazepine. But I was using it under strictly controlled conditions: what that means is I had to go in for regular check-ups, and my psychiatrist would gradually taper my dosage down over time until we finally discontinued it altogether.
Honestly, based on what I went through, it would be incredibly hard for me to fall asleep without that medication. Psychoactive drugs can definitely cause side effects and damage, but when you’re weighing the benefits of treating an illness against those side effects, you keep using the medication until the very first signs pop up that suggest the drug itself is causing the trouble.

And look, just because there's a lack of highly trained professionals doesn't mean it's a valid reason to say a drug like xyz shouldn't be used. That kind of logic would be more suited for a political flyer claiming everything is rotten in the US.

edit: also, I honestly don't get how a general practitioner can prescribe psychoactive meds; in my experience, everything always had to go through a psychiatrist.
Melissa Sanchez8 Melissa Sanchez8 Active Member
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#14 ·
It’s not even about experience at this point... it’s just an attitude. Like, "I don't care" or "I'm over it."
Glad you actually got some decent follow-up care.

Yeah, a lot of it is rotten. Personally, I tend to see that side of things more often.

A gynecologist can prescribe it too, not just your primary care doctor.
John Martin18 John Martin18 Member
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joined Sep 2016
#15 ·
I actually had a doctor tell me she gives this to her own daughter as a preventative measure; she believes small doses can even be healthy for muscle relaxation. Personally, I hit a point where if I took more than 10mg of the blue pills, I’d end up polishing off the whole bottle in one day just to try and sleep... and even then, I wouldn't be able to drift off. Once the effects wore off, a crushing depression would hit me, feeling like a death row inmate with absolutely no hope for parole. It's a good thing the US has tightened regulations so you can only get a month's supply per prescription, whereas back in the day, you could grab them for $5.75. Nowadays, you see people in places like Chaplin picking up massive hauls, and it's honestly wild seeing elderly women walking out of private pharmacies with entire bags full of Normabel, Praxiten, and even Tramal. It feels like there's zero oversight from the government lately...
Laura Castillo6 Laura Castillo6 Active Member
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#16 ·
Honestly, there are so many different ways people handle this. I once knew a psychiatrist—rest his soul—who was an absolute pro and a true expert in his field, yet even he would take some Ativan just to get through the night. He used to say that navigating the day can be incredibly draining, especially in a high-pressure profession like his. Then you have people who mix their meds with alcohol, and frankly, they have no idea how dangerous that is. As for me, I occasionally pick up some Valium without a prescription, but I don't just pop them whenever I feel like it; I only use them when absolutely necessary. By "necessary," I mean those moments when I realize I’m struggling to wind down between waking up tomorrow morning and heading to bed tonight. In those cases, I’ll just take half a pill to take the edge off. Personally, I feel like that's better than not sleeping at all, because we all know how vital a good night's rest is for your health.

When you stick to small doses, the medication can actually be effective over the long term. However, if complications arise, you have to stop taking it immediately. You really shouldn't experiment with these things on your own without a medical professional guiding you through the process. Once someone falls into a cycle of dependency, getting off those medications becomes a massive struggle—even heavy-duty psychiatric care isn't always a guaranteed fix for addiction.
Harold Cook2 Harold Cook2 Active Member
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joined Mar 2009
#17 ·
Man, my girl even offered me some of her stuff just so I could finally chill out and get these muscles to relax. She was saying it hits way smoother than anything else out there—says she even takes a hit herself every now and then.

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