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Lawless (2012)

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Tyler Clark86 Tyler Clark86 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Lawless

trailer release


Trailer

So, we’ve got a new Western coming up starring Tom Hardy. 🙂 Based on the trailer, it looks like some pretty decent drama/Western hybrid, and honestly, those high ratings make me think it might actually be worth watching. We've also got Shia LaBeouf—you know, from Transformers—alongside Guy Pearce and Gary Oldman. I mean, the cast is stacked, which is always a good sign, right? The film hits theaters here in the USA on August 29th.

Plot: Set in the Depression-era Franklin County, Virginia, a bootlegging gang is threatened by authorities who want a cut of their profits.
John Chase85 John Chase85 Newcomer
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#2 ·
The reviews are actually pretty solid, but the box office projections are looking rough—they're estimating the US haul at a measly $31 million.
amberwalker4 amberwalker4 Active Member
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#3 ·
Shia LaBeouf... honestly, he’s starting to get on my nerves, and I don't see any point to him being in this movie. Out of all those huge stars, they still pick him 🙂.
rustywalker1 rustywalker1 Active Member
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#4 ·
Could someone please shrink this image? 🤦
Laura Chavez56 Laura Chavez56 Member
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#5 ·
What a powerhouse lineup—you’ve got Cave and Hillcoat at the helm... Honestly, this has all the markings of a masterpiece!
John Peterson3 John Peterson3 Active Member
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#6 ·
It’ll be fine; the cast is top-tier.
Bryan Hill4 Bryan Hill4 Member
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#7 ·
Ryan Gosling, Scarlett Johansson, and Michael Shannon were actually the director's first picks—instead of Tom Hardy, Jessica Chastain, and Guy Pearce. Personally, I find this specific cast much better suited for playing these gangsters.
Jason Mendoza Jason Mendoza Member
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#8 ·
Honestly, Shia LaBeouf just gets on my nerves; he’s such an irritating guy. I'm at the point where his presence alone might make me skip this movie entirely.🙂
Tyler Clark86 Tyler Clark86 Active MemberOP
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#9 ·
I mean, I think Shia LaBeouf is a totally fine guy and he definitely knows how to act.

Personally, though, Taylor Lautner just really gets on my nerves—he’s super grating, sorry to his fans—and honestly, because of him, I couldn't even bring myself to watch Abduction, even though it actually looked like a pretty decent movie.

🙂
Gregory Howard71 Gregory Howard71 Newcomer
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#10 ·
heads up... potential spoilers ahead...

I couldn't bear the wait until next week, so I ended up catching a midnight screening 😎 based on the trailers, I was expecting a hit, and honestly, it delivered... in my book, this is easily the best film of the year. I’ve always been a sucker for that era of American gangster lore—huge fan of Boardwalk Empire, 😁 if I'm being honest. My only real hesitation was the fact that Nick Cave handled the screenplay, but the narrative structure turned out to be incredibly tight. It’s definitely heavy on the violence, featuring some pretty visceral, brutal scenes, but the atmosphere is impeccable; you truly feel transported back to the early 20th century. The whole thing is based on the true story of the Bondurant brothers. Tom Hardy is nothing short of brilliant as Forrest Bondurant 🙏 and Shia LaBeouf delivers an equally stellar performance. As for Guy Pearce, he gave what I consider a career-defining performance playing the ruthless Deputy Sheriff Charlie Rakes. My only real gripe is that I wish Gary Oldman had more screen time, because every single moment he's on camera is gold—especially during that opening shootout 😁 all in all, the film is superb, and I highly recommend giving it a watch...

p.s. these midnight premieres are a godsend... sure, it's late, but having an empty theater to yourself allows you to actually sink into the movie without distractions...
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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#11 ·
This movie is incredible. Honestly, maybe the best ensemble cast I've seen in a long time. Even with all those heavy hitters on screen, the guy playing the oldest brother really stood out to me. Everyone in the theater was on board—even the people who usually can't stand that overly sweet, soft kid archetype. In this film, he plays that exact type of character perfectly, and man, he nails it.☕
Joshua Smith5 Joshua Smith5 Active Member
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#12 ·
I’m satisfied. Well directed, even better acted, and unapologetically violent. Even a young Shia LaBeouf is great here. It’s very entertaining, with a few moments that elevate it, though they aren't frequent. Still, a solid, if slightly stretched, 8/10. 😉
neonsurfer6 neonsurfer6 Member
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#13 ·
Joshua Smith5 said:I’m satisfied. Well directed, even better acted, and unapologetically violent. Even a young Shia LaBeouf is great here. It’s very entertaining, with a few moments that elevate it, though they aren't frequent. Still, a solid, if slightly stretched, 8/10. 😉

That’s pretty much where I landed too, though for me, it feels like a very firm 8. It’s highly engaging, and that final scene on the bridge is one of those standout moments that pushes the whole thing up a notch.
Joshua Smith5 Joshua Smith5 Active Member
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#14 ·
A review for Fak will be up soon (maybe tomorrow?). It’ll be my own take, so you can see what I thought of the movie in a bit more detail. These are just some raw initial impressions. Honestly, the ending didn't sit right with me. It's good, sure, but it should have been much better. If it had, we'd be talking about a masterpiece, because everything leading up to that point actually works. Everything is tight.

And if Guy Pearce had just dialed it back a notch... you know how it is. 🙂
neonsurfer6 neonsurfer6 Member
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Spoilers!

You actually just reminded me of how the movie ends. I think I mentally re-edited the whole thing in my head, which is probably why I’m treating that bridge scene as the "real" finale 😁 Honestly, if the ending is the weakest part of the film, it’s no wonder I pushed it to the back of my mind. Everything gets wrapped up a bit too neatly and saccharine at the end—it feels forced, like they tacked it on just to satisfy us. It’s a shame, really. There wasn't any real need to hammer home their fates; the whole thing could have ended right there with that showdown on the bridge.
Richard Barrett53 Richard Barrett53 Member
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#16 ·
It’s a solid film, I suppose. I’d probably recommend it to anyone with even a passing interest in Prohibition-era stories, provided they don't mind a bit of grit and violence.
The plot and script seem fine enough, and the cast is certainly impressive. I usually find Shia LaBeouf a bit grating, but this might actually be his best performance yet, if I'm being honest; the rest of the actors are quite good too, though it feels like a missed opportunity that Gary Oldman doesn't have more screen time.
casualcobra5 casualcobra5 Newcomer
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#17 ·
Here’s that critique from Joshua Smith5 I mentioned earlier. 🙂
Daniel Kelly57 Daniel Kelly57 Active Member
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#18 ·
I don't get what people think was missing from that final shootout on the bridge. To me, it was pure perfection. Especially that part where the big guy takes him out with total professional precision. 🙂
John Peterson3 John Peterson3 Active Member
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#19 ·
Gary Oldman is underutilized here, but Tom Hardy is excellent. LaBeouf holds his own, too. It’s an interesting story with some rough edges here and there, but overall, a solid watch.
Rachel Ortiz33 Rachel Ortiz33 Active Member
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neonsurfer6 said:Spoilers!

You actually just reminded me of how the movie ends. I think I mentally re-edited the whole thing in my head, which is probably why I’m treating that bridge scene as the "real" finale 😁 Honestly, if the ending is the weakest part of the film, it’s no wonder I pushed it to the back of my mind. Everything gets wrapped up a bit too neatly and saccharine at the end—it feels forced, like they tacked it on just to satisfy us. It’s a shame, really. There wasn't any real need to hammer home their fates; the whole thing could have ended right there with that showdown on the bridge.

Spoiler alert!
I feel like the ending was just a total mess. It feels like they wrote it that way just to make the brothers look basically invincible—I mean, Tom Hardy’s character survives a slit throat, a shootout, and all that crazy stuff, only to kick the bucket in such a lame way at the end.
I mean, if you look at the actual story, it’s like... well, you know.

Just dropping my own review in here too:

Picture it: the 1930s, back when booze was totally illegal. You've got these three brothers running an entire bootlegging operation. First, there's Jason Clarke—total mess, basically a permanent drunk. Then you have Tom Hardy, the steady one who keeps the business moving; he’s quiet and mumbles, but man, he’s a powerhouse who could take anyone down if they crossed him. Finally, there's Shia LaBeouf, the baby of the group. He isn't nearly as tough as his older brothers, though. He plays the driver, kind of a nervous wreck, but he's desperate to prove himself and step up to their level. He’s obsessed with those classic gangsters, especially this local mobster played by Gary Oldman in a tiny little cameo. Still, that opening scene where the guy shows up is killer. He rolls into town with a Tommy gun and a cigarette dangling from his lips, just absolutely mows down everyone in his path without breaking a sweat. He catches a glimpse of a terrified LaBeouf, gives him a quick wink—still rocking the cigar and the gun—and just cruises off. Pure class.

Jessica Chastain plays this waitress working at a station near some brothers, just looking for some peace and quiet, but all she finds is pure chaos and nothing but trouble. She’s also Hardy’s love interest, though they basically spend half the movie just staring at each other while you sit there wondering when they’ll finally get it on or if we're gonna get a sexy scene with Jessica. Then you've got LaBeouf’s interest, Mia Wasikovska, who's this innocent girl tied to the local preacher—honestly thought her subplot was totally pointless until late in the film when some guy's ego gets in the way and everything goes south fast. Man, things just go wrong for everyone in this one... I actually felt bad for a few of them.

Man, you guys are gonna hate Guy Pearce. He’s such an obvious villain from the second he hits the screen. Honestly, he looks like a total jerk right away, and if his face doesn't make you want to freeze him out instantly, his behavior definitely will—especially later when he goes full psychopath. Pearce kills it in the role, though I get that some people might find him a bit much once he starts going over the top.

Hillcoat / Cave are teaming up again. Their last collab, The Proposition, was absolute fire, and even when they worked solo—like doing soundtracks for some killer movies—they killed it. This one isn't quite hitting the heights of The Proposition since it feels a bit less original, but man, the casting is spot on. Every single character hits. Hardy is a total standout (surprising? maybe not). He’s doing that thing where he barely talks or just mumbles to himself—even when a naked Jessica shows up! He’s all hunched over, giving off major Bane vibes through his eyes and body language rather than actual lines. And when he starts throwing hands? Pure chaos. Shia LaBeouf might actually be the MVP here, though. His character has this great arc, evolving from a scared kid into this wannabe gangster. Such a talented guy, it's a shame people mostly associate him with those Transformers wrecks. Then you've got the third brother, Jason Clarke; he's solid and has a few great moments, but he definitely gets overshadowed by the other two. I've always been a fan of Guy Pearce, and even if his character is a jerk, the acting is top-tier. Not much to say about Oldman, Wasikovska feels kind of out of place with nothing to do, and Jessica Chastain is great, though her character definitely catches a lot of heat.

Direction was solid, though I think there was room to level up. Visually? Totally stunning. Since it’s a Cave project, I went in expecting a masterpiece for the soundtrack, and while it hit some high notes, certain parts felt pretty trippy and weird... Also, plenty of sudden, brutal violence popping off out of nowhere—definitely a win in my book. My only gripe is the ending; it felt super naive and rushed, like they just bolted for the finish line. Could've been tighter...

8/10

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