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Is Apple actually a good professional workstation?

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Raymond Hill Raymond Hill MemberOP
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#1 ·
Alright, I’m basically asking this again.

Apple iMac Pro 27"
Retina 5K CTO, 8-core Intel Xeon w 3.2
3.2GHz/64GB/1TB SSD/Radeon Pro
Vega 56 8GB HBM2/HGspot 48000 KN

Check out these specs—this thing is a beast meant for heavy-duty pro graphic design work.

Price is coming from HGspot $16000.

I saw some comments online, but I guess Apple just makes sure the monitor actually keeps up with the hardware.

Anyone got a link for an Apple machine with similar power?

p.s. doing this for my boss—trying to find him a sweet deal to surprise him lol 😁
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#2 ·
1) You looking for a different iMac or just a Windows machine?
2) Photo or video work?
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#3 ·
He mentioned he's on the lookout for a Mac.

The Vega 56 is surprisingly capable when you're diving into video editing, though it was never exactly top-tier hardware, was it? As for the Xeon w 8 C, it performs roughly on par with a Ryzen 2700 x. Daaaleko, which means it’s a far cry from being labeled a "really powerful PC." ☕ $16000 🤦

I'm honestly not sure why the Mac Pro isn't more readily available here in the States; having access to one would be a real step up, but I haven't looked into what the price tags actually look like.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#4 ·
We don't actually know what the specific use case is. For all we know, an M1 Mac Mini might be plenty, and it’ll likely have better longevity with Photoshop and similar apps down the road—plus it costs way less.

P.S. The Mac Pro is insanely expensive. It isn't some budget alternative to an iMac for a comparable setup; sure, you get a higher ceiling for performance, but you pay a massive premium for it.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#5 ·
wiredotter14 said:We don't actually know what the specific use case is. For all we know, an M1 Mac Mini might be plenty, and it’ll likely have better longevity with Photoshop and similar apps down the road—plus it costs way less.

P.S. The Mac Pro is insanely expensive. It isn't some budget alternative to an iMac for a comparable setup; sure, you get a higher ceiling for performance, but you pay a massive premium for it.

True, the Mac Pro is quite pricey, and in either scenario, you're still going to need a monitor. My top pick would be:

https://www.nabava.net/monitori/asus...ivot-106831021

If getting everything together with an M1 Mac Mini ends up being too much for the budget, then maybe consider this one:

https://www.nabava.net/monitori/asus...ps-32-98478771

Or perhaps just wait for the M1 iMac... that should be arriving very soon, shouldn't it?
Raymond Hill Raymond Hill MemberOP
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#6 ·
Didn't want to get too into the weeds right at the start, but we're talking about architecture work here.
The boss is demanding an iMac. 😁
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#7 ·
That’s a whole different ballgame from photo or video editing. You don't necessarily need a high-end pro monitor. I don't know much about the specific requirements for 3D CAD modeling—especially on a Mac—but that iMac $16 sounds like massive overkill. If your software runs smoothly on an M1 Mac Mini (which it probably will), that’s your most cost-effective bet. Do some digging into how those specific programs perform on it, but finding a decent monitor for an architect shouldn't be the issue; I’d suggest looking at a solid 32" 4K display.

Besides, the entire macOS ecosystem is pivoting toward the M1/Apple architecture, which means support for Intel systems is going to dry up while everything moves forward on M1. Personally, I wouldn't touch an Intel Mac if it's meant for work or long-term use right now.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#8 ·
If you're looking for decent 3D Metal performance, the Mac Mini might feel a bit underwhelming, though I noticed it actually holds its own against an RX 580 (!) when running at 1080p. That being said, I have my doubts about how smoothly it would handle 4K workloads. Just look at how this architectural software performs on the M1:




My main priority is having a solid 4K monitor, preferably one with a dedicated sRGB mode.

Since Apple isn't really pushing those older iMac models anymore, we can pretty much count on new ones arriving soon. Honestly, if there's any way to be patient, wouldn't it make more sense to wait rather than dropping a fortune on these "ancient" machines that are still overpriced? They just don't seem to have much of a future.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#9 ·
I heard a rumor floating around that Apple might drop a new iMac later this year with a beefier processor—probably rocking 8 high-performance cores, more RAM, and the like.
Yeah, regardless, Intel Macs aren't just "last-gen" anymore; they're basically obsolete at this point.

By the way, Apple still carries them. You can still grab one on their site over in the US.
Terry Lewis2 Terry Lewis2 Newcomer
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#10 ·
wiredotter14 said:We don't actually know what the specific use case is. For all we know, an M1 Mac Mini might be plenty, and it’ll likely have better longevity with Photoshop and similar apps down the road—plus it costs way less.

P.S. The Mac Pro is insanely expensive. It isn't some budget alternative to an iMac for a comparable setup; sure, you get a higher ceiling for performance, but you pay a massive premium for it.

In that case, he’d probably be better off grabbing a MacBook Pro rather than the Mini M1. The M1 always presents limitations—specifically regarding RAM and SSD capacity—so it almost doesn't matter if you choose a desktop or a laptop.
He needs a true workstation. Neither a mini or a MacBook Pro quite reaches that level, even though they are certainly capable and fast machines.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#11 ·
Terry Lewis2 said:In that case, he’d probably be better off grabbing a MacBook Pro rather than the Mini M1. The M1 always presents limitations—specifically regarding RAM and SSD capacity—so it almost doesn't matter if you choose a desktop or a laptop.
He needs a true workstation. Neither a mini or a MacBook Pro quite reaches that level, even though they are certainly capable and fast machines.

The MacBook Pro M1 and the Mac Mini have identical specs—processor, RAM, SSD.
An Intel MacBook Pro can go up to 32GB of RAM, but let’s be real: buying one now is a bad move and a waste of money.

The real question is what you actually need the machine for. These new M1 chips are incredibly smooth; they handle apps effortlessly where even the old 6-core MacBook Pro used to struggle. Right now, the only Macs that convincingly outperform the M1 lineup are the Mac Pro and a fully specced out 27" iMac. But those cost a fortune, and in a year or two, they'll already feel dated as support starts to shift.
Once Apple drops the M2 or M1X chips, we might finally see true workstations again. Until then, I wouldn't drop massive cash on high-end Apple gear. The Mac Mini M1 is "affordable" enough that it isn't a total gamble, and it's likely more than enough power for most people.

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