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Nica, I'm still waiting for your decision

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rowdypanther rowdypanther MemberOP
16 messages
joined Mar 2014
#1 ·
I sent you a private message 15 days ago laying out my situation, and you said you'd look into it. I haven't heard a single word from you since.

Is it really that hard to just reply and say yes or no?

You have received an infraction on Reddit
Dear rowdypanther,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: constant trolling, ignoring warnings and rules
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This infraction is worth 100 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

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Well, obviously he needed some kind of visa, and a green card is a visa, right?
All the best,
Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/private_messages

It looks like you help a lot of people, so I figured you could help me too—even if it's just a simple "yes" or "no." No harm done either way.

Thanks!
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
I mentioned I’d look into what's going on with your partial ban. Just so you know, if you want to get that ban lifted, you'll have to take it up with the expatriates moderators—that's their call, not mine. If you're looking to appeal the decision, honestly, your best bet is just to start a thread right here on the main board. It's way easier than me having to slide into the DMs of the moderators to argue your case and then trying to manually pull all your posts into the mix. 🙂
rowdypanther rowdypanther MemberOP
16 messages
joined Mar 2014
#3 ·
What’s even the point of this sub? It feels like we're just here to complain, but honestly, venting seems pretty much useless at this point.

You people really don't know how to let things go. It’s ridiculous. You forgive someone for missing a phone bill or a credit card payment, or if you can't settle the utility bill on time, they don't just cut your power—you simply promise to have it covered next month. People forgive massive hospital debts that you physically cannot pay; they don't throw you in jail, and you still get treated at the same hospital. Even if you get into a heated argument with a coworker, the boss isn't going to fire you on the spot. Life isn't as black and white as you make it out to be.

Damn, if you screw up here, you might as well just pack it in. One mistake and you're finished.
I’ve spent eight years on this forum, and I made one single mistake. Just one argument, and suddenly there's no forgiveness—they toss you out like literal garbage.

Have you guys never walked away from an argument with your chin up? Never refused to make peace after a fight just to save face? I know I have, and honestly, I’ve already forgotten all about it.
I didn't swear, I didn't insult anyone, and I definitely wasn't belittling my interlocutor. Look, we were just debating. It happened. Once you get heated, it’s hard to pull the brakes. It happened to me during these last eight years—so what? It's not like I killed anyone.
My conversation partner basically tore me to shreds. He didn't hold anything back.
I couldn't just let it go. I ended up getting dragged into an argument, and honestly, I stand by every single word I said. I was speaking from my own experience and what I've seen from others, too.

If I were posting on the expatriate forums, I’d have found at least a hundred different ways to get over there.
But there aren't even five people from the States on the expatriate boards. So what am I supposed to do? Just hang out with myself? It seems like the moderators only care because they have nothing better to do; the second someone shows up with a different opinion, they just slap them with a penalty. I voiced a complaint and they shut the thread down immediately. Apparently, you aren't allowed to complain about them, and you definitely aren't allowed to say anything to them. Hey, rustydrifter10, do you just not have any rights here? Are they somehow more powerful than you?
Once those two leave the expat community, I’m heading back home. They’ll just end up making everything about themselves anyway.

This forum doesn't mean anything to me anymore. You aren't allowed to make mistakes here. Or rather, everyone else makes them, but you weren't allowed to, rowdypanther.
If you mess up, you might as well stay away. What kind of "socializing" is that supposed to be?

In all these eight years, I haven't even bothered checking some of the subreddits. I didn't care enough to look, and honestly, I haven't had the time anyway. It’s probably for the best.

Fine, just show me the rule that says you actually have to tell the truth on this forum.

rustydrifter10, thanks. You’re the only Admin around here with an actual heart and soul. Even if you didn't exactly solve my problem, it feels like you tried. That's why people on this site respect you. Honestly, I’d even grab a coffee with you sometime because it's clear you aren't out to cause trouble.
brightpuma brightpuma Active Member
128 messages
joined Jun 2024
#4 ·
original post : http://www.reddit.com/quote
rowdypanther said:rustydrifter10, thanks. You're really the only Admin here with a soul. Even if you didn't actually solve my problem, it feels like you tried. That’s why everyone on Reddit respects you. Honestly, I’d grab a coffee with you any day—you just don't have an ounce of malice in you.

Since he's basically the only moderator left, this whole thing looks pretty ridiculous... 😁 😁
rowdypanther rowdypanther MemberOP
16 messages
joined Mar 2014
#5 ·
Here are the rules for the Expatriates section. I had to copy them manually because there isn't any other way to access them.

On the "Expatriates" subreddit:

MOST IMPORTANT:

When it comes to advice on moving to the States, immigration, job hunting, visas, or anything else relevant to potential expatriates—99% of it has already been thoroughly and politely explained by veteran users in existing threads. Read those topics first (or just use Google) before you decide to ask a follow-up question. Please, stop posting the exact same questions every single day that have already been answered extensively over and over again. I believe I speak for all expatriates when I say we’re happy to help, but being asked to repeat the same topics that have been covered dozens of times is genuinely annoying. Thanks.

Nadalje:

1) Harassment based on ethnicity, social status, religion, gender, race, or any other basis is strictly prohibited.

2) Glorifying or promoting Nazism, fascism, racism, or any xenophobic ideologies is strictly prohibited.

3) No personal attacks allowed—don't insult someone just because you disagree with them, and don't respond to an insult with another one. Also, trolling or intentionally provoking arguments is strictly prohibited.

4) Don't go wildly off-topic. Any irrelevant posts or threads will be moved or deleted. As a general rule: if an off-topic tangent drags on for more than a few posts, it’s considered destructive to the discussion and won't be tolerated.

5) Don't dump massive blocks of copied text here—nothing longer than a single paragraph. If you're posting content in a foreign language, you have to include a brief summary in English. You don't need to translate the whole thing word-for-word; just get the point across in one or two sentences.

6) No duplicate threads allowed. Don't start a new topic if there's already one covering the same subject.

7) Don't turn this place into your personal lecture hall. No endless monologues without room for actual discussion, and stop burying threads under a mountain of useless data. If you have a long quote, don't paste the whole thing—just drop a link.

8) Don't make things personal. This includes launching personal attacks, starting threads just to target other users, or anything of that nature. Doxing—searching for, sharing, or posting anyone else's private information—is strictly prohibited.

9) Posts need to be concise and easy to understand, written in clear American English. When starting a new thread, make sure you actually explain what you want to discuss, lay out your initial stance, and use a title that accurately describes the topic—just remember to capitalize the first word of the subject line. For longer posts, break your text into paragraphs so people can actually read it without straining.

10) Any post written entirely or mostly in ALL CAPS will be treated as shouting and you'll get nothing but a massive pile of downvotes.

11) Posts consisting entirely or mostly of profanity and obscenity are unwelcome and will result in a ban.

12) No sockpuppet accounts allowed. One user per account.

13) Any political posts that aren't relevant to the "Expatriates" section will be moved to the "Politics" subforum.

14) Photos cannot exceed 640x480. Any image exceeding these dimensions will be automatically deleted. Limit of six images per post (exceptions may be granted upon request).

15) Inquiries regarding illegal entry, residency, or employment in any country are strictly prohibited.

16) Flooding posts with nothing but emojis or using them as your only "response" to a thread is strictly prohibited. This is a discussion forum; please actually use your words.

17) Don't interfere with the smooth operation of the forum or the moderators' duties. This includes ignoring warnings or trying to resurrect deleted threads. Any complaints regarding moderator actions made outside of the official appeals subforum will be treated as interference. If a moderator isn't around or misses a specific thread, just use the "report" button on the offending post. You can send a moderator a private message if you have a legitimate question, but don't spam them or harass them.

18) The post directly above yours isn't quoting properly.

19) When quoting long posts, just provide the opening line (followed by an ellipsis...) or the most relevant snippet. Quoting entire walls of text only to respond with a few words will result in a sanction.

When you're quoting multiple posts, please use the multiquote feature. Break up your response with individual quotes if you want to address specific points separately, rather than cluttering the thread with several different posts. Also, remember that you have an edit window available for a limited time—use it.

21) Don't bother asking about your chances of getting a visa or moving here. We aren't psychics.

22) No job advertisements or solicitation posts allowed here. If you’re looking to hire or find work, please use the classifieds section on the PDF instead.

Any violation of these rules will result in a penalty, determined by the severity of the offense. Generally, a first slip-up earns you a yellow card; anything after that is an immediate red card.

Rules are subject to change or updates at any time without prior notice.

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Where exactly in the rules does it say you can't lie? Where does it state that you're required to tell the truth? You could claim I lied, even though I didn't. You penalized me based on some rule you just pulled out of thin air. There's a massive difference between having an actual written rule and just making one up in your head and deciding to enforce it.

If you’re going to act like you’re so much smarter than everyone else, why didn't you just state clearly from the jump that lying, trolling, and making things up isn't allowed? Maybe then you could actually try punishing me based on those rules.
Maybe you weren't expecting THIS. You never really know who's sitting on the other side of the screen.
My interlocutor actually started hurling insults at me, calling me a TROLL. Where does he get off? I haven't insulted him once—anyone can look at my posts and see that for themselves.

Skattemus, you warned me; the warning basically said, "rowdypanther, stop posting lies and trolling." By issuing a warning like that, all you did was pour gasoline on the fire. That’s not how you handle strangers online. You should have just said, "rowdypanther, please stop." Or better yet, told both sides to knock it off and move on. If that had happened, I would have just walked away and never looked back.
You kicked me out, yet you didn't even try to penalize the other guy for his insults. In fact, you basically shielded him. Are you seeing this, rustydrifter10?

I checked the rules posted by the owner of this Reddit thread, and even he didn't explicitly state that you have to tell the truth. Here is a specific part of what he wrote:

I don't care what anyone says, this whole thing is a mess. It’s pure chaos. People need to stop making excuses for how things are being run. It’s frustrating, and frankly, it’s ridiculous. Get it together.

I'm going to pull out exactly what he wrote:
Use any advice found in other users' posts at your own risk.

See that?

Nowhere does it say anyone is obligated to take your advice, yet you’re out here acting like you speak for all the expatriates. ;D Expatriates are people looking for actual facts—information that can literally shape their future. Your posts just cause confusion and spread misinformation, especially since you don't provide a single valid argument or a link to back up anything you claim.

Forums should require a permit just to ensure people only post the truth. If they did, it wouldn't be a place for hanging out anymore—it would just be an official government site for people with actual facts.

Where exactly in the rules does it say spreading misinformation isn't allowed? Seriously, even if I did, which specific rule are you using to justify punishing me?

Skattemus, I’m seriously considering legal action over these accusations. We could end up facing off in court, and trust me, it won’t be pretty. You’ve leveled some heavy charges against me, and if your baseless claims are what landed me in the hospital, I’ll be adding that to the lawsuit too. Consider this a warning: watch your step and stop acting so arrogant on Reddit or anywhere else online.

I’ve noticed it myself, and other users on Reddit have too. If you don't like someone's answer, you immediately start accusing them of lying. Where do you get off doing that? How could you possibly know? It isn't written in the rules that you're allowed to act this way, yet here you are, doing exactly that.

BLR wrote this: rowdypanther,

My colleague did the right thing. That partial payment was an agreement made directly between her and me.

BLR, you’re being sneaky. You just didn't want to get involved, so you threw your colleague Skattemus under the bus just to save your own skin. You're nothing but a manipulator. 👏

Skattemus lost in translation Skattemus's avatar registration : May 2006. : I wouldn't let you be a moderator anymore if I were you.

rustydrifter10, fire her.

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rowdypanther rowdypanther MemberOP
16 messages
joined Mar 2014
#6 ·
I’ll weigh in on this too.

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You have received an infraction on Reddit
Dear rowdypanther,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: constant trolling, ignoring warnings and rules
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This infraction is worth 100 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.reddit.com/quote
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Well, obviously he had to have some kind of visa, and a green card is a visa, right?
All the best,
Reddit

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Did you even read what I wrote?

If I had actually claimed there is no other visa besides a green card,
then you'd have grounds to punish me. But instead, you penalized me just because you lost control of your temper. That's on you, not me.

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Susan Price Susan Price Member
13 messages
joined Aug 2013
#7 ·
rowdypanther said:It doesn't say anywhere that you *have* to follow advice—so don't go claiming this is some official Diaspora resource! ;D The Diaspora forum is just a PDF where people look for info that’s sometimes vital for their future. Your posts are just confusing and spreading misinformation, especially since you aren't backing up a single thing you say with actual arguments or links.

Correction—that was actually my own words, not a colleague's.

If forums were required to only host the absolute truth, then they wouldn't be social hubs anymore—they'd just be official government websites for people looking for verified data.

Look, the forum has plenty of sub-forums and threads specifically meant for hanging out and messing around. Even the Diaspora section has a few social threads. But the topics intended to help people navigating immigration exist so they can help, not hinder people—which is exactly what spreading misinformation does. Honestly, I don't know how else to explain this to you so you'll finally grasp basic logic.

This was written by Susan Price: Anne,

My colleague did the right thing. Her partial ban was based on an agreement between her and me.

Susan Price, you are being sneaky—you just didn't want to get your hands dirty, so you pushed your colleague Skattemus into the line of fire just to protect yourself. You're such a manipulator! 👏

By making a comment like that, you're basically admitting you've never actually worked on a team in your life.
A colleague asked me for my opinion and shared hers. Since our views aligned, she acted according to what we had agreed upon. If I had been the one to bring up the issue first, you would have been the one getting the warning or the ban from me.

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