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US Men's National Soccer Team - General Discussion (Vol. 3)

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mistyseal8 mistyseal8 Member
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#61 ·
rowdytinker3 said:Yeah, things went great in Germany. We played with so much heart and bravery that we actually celebrated a loss like it was a win, only to get absolutely crushed later on. A truly brilliant strategy.
Brazil is playing at home for their opening match. They’re coming into the tournament as the number one favorites and they'll be flying across the pitch. Not to mention, taking first place in the group is vital for them if they want to avoid facing the Spaniards in the Round of 16. Personally, I'm not under any illusions—we'll likely face a dignified defeat against them.

I have to disagree.

We aren't actually that bad. We're a very solid squad, especially when we're having an on day. World-class teams don't intimidate us; we often beat them, draw against them, or occasionally suffer a tiny setback. Our real issue is playing against teams that are on our level or even weaker. That's when that "it'll be easy" mentality kicks in, and we struggle to find the creativity needed to break down a parked bus.

Let's be real: the Brazilians can be a bit "lazy and laid back." They'll probably be slow and sleepy in this first game—classic South American style. That's where our opportunity lies. By the way, it's actually common for world-class teams to ease into a tournament, pacing themselves so they hit peak form right after the group stages. You see it all the time with those southern teams.
Raymond Fowler17 Raymond Fowler17 Newcomer
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#62 ·
mistyseal8 said:All these injuries? To me, they look like the unmistakable fingerprint of incompetent coaching. 🙄

Spot on. Honestly, watching this training camp unfold is getting depressing—from picking injured or totally unnecessary players to absolutely overworking them in practice.

Every other major national team seems to have maybe two injuries, and even then, one’s already been replaced. Meanwhile, we’ve got three guaranteed casualties plus a few more hanging by a thread. I read somewhere that Vid and someone else were limping off the pitch at the end of practice. At this rate, who knows if anyone will even be standing by the time we hit Brazil.
rowdytinker3 rowdytinker3 Member
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#63 ·
Christian Hernandez11 said:I’m not so sure the Spaniards will actually take first in our group. The backbone of their squad is basically that FC Barcelona midfield, and they’ve been struggling all season. Besides, their biggest threat is the team that made it to the World Cup finals last time.

Nah, the Spaniards are going to cruise into first place. And God knows how the Netherlands is going to play. I wouldn't even be shocked if they fail to get out of the group stage.

mistyseal8 said:I disagree.

We aren't that bad. We’re actually a really solid squad, especially when we're having an on day. World-class teams don't scare us; we beat them, we draw with them, or maybe we lose by a hair. Our real issue is playing against teams that are right at our level or even weaker. That's when that "it's easy" mentality kicks in, and suddenly we're stuck because we lack the creativity to break down a parked bus.

Cut the chatter. Brazilians are just lazy guys; they'll be slow and sluggish in the first match—classic lazy South American style. That's where we grab our chance. By the way, top-tier teams usually ease into these tournaments, pacing themselves so they hit peak form after the group stage. You see it all the time with those "southern" teams.

Not a chance.
slynomad69 slynomad69 Newcomer
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#64 ·
Christian Hernandez11 said:I’m not so sure the Spaniards are gonna top the group we're stuck in. I mean, look—the backbone of the national team is basically that FC Barcelona midfield, and they’ve been totally underwhelming this season. Plus, let's be real, their biggest threat is that team that just made it to the World Cup final last time.

Honestly, if we even make it out of the group stage, I'll call that a win. We can definitely hold our own against the Spaniards, but I don't think we're better than them—thinking we have a massive shot at moving on is just wishful thinking.
rustyraven4 rustyraven4 Member
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#65 ·
Patrick Martin said:-----------------------braid-----------------------

badger-------charliechapplin-------chifo--------lovronja

-----------hat-----------kova-------------------

pranja----------------rocket-----------------perišić

------------------------dud--------------------------

either that or just go home...

That last line's about as good as it gets from us. And honestly, there's no way that middle part happens without some serious chaos going down.😳

Feel bad for Nike😢
George Ward7 George Ward7 Member
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#66 ·
Patrick Martin said:-----------------------braid-----------------------

badger-------charliaplin-------chifo--------lovrenja

-----------hat-----------kova-------------------

pranja----------------rocket-----------------perišić

------------------------dud--------------------------

either that or just go home...

This feels more like not even playing against Brazil😁, way too offensive
Kimberly Gomez34 Kimberly Gomez34 Regular
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#67 ·
Patrick Martin said:-----------------------braid-----------------------

badger-------charliechaplin-------chifos--------lovrenja

-----------hat-----------kova-------------------

pranja----------------rocket-----------------perišić

------------------------dud--------------------------

either pick one or just go home...

I'm going even more aggressive here.

Swap Kova for a wolf, switch Perišić and Pranja, and put Ola in the attack instead of Dud (to handle counterattacks, apply pressure, and just play with some grit). Ivica Olić is perfect for big matches; he was vital in every single one of our major victories.
It would also be interesting to see Visuljka in Srna's spot, with Srna moving up front.
Charles Fisher4 Charles Fisher4 Newcomer
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#68 ·
Raymond Fowler17 said:It’s becoming quite pathetic, isn't it? Watching this entire preseason unfold—from the questionable selection of injured players and those who clearly don't belong, to the sheer exhaustion of overtraining—it all feels rather bleak.

Every other national squad seems to be managing with just a couple of injuries and maybe one substitution, yet here we are, already nursing three definite casualties plus a few more hanging in the balance. I caught word that Vid and someone else were limping off at the end of training; does anyone actually know who’s going to make it to the World Cup at this rate?

Those injuries don't really have anything to do with the preseason training camps, do they? If you look at the three of them, Niko Kranjčar was sidelined while playing for QPR, Ivan Strinić only played that last match because he was already dealing with an injury during his time at Dnipro, and Ivica Olić has been essentially out of action for almost the entire season, so it’s hardly any surprise at all.
rowdytinker3 rowdytinker3 Member
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#69 ·
Ivica Olić needs to be in the starting XI, otherwise we might as well not even show up. ☕
George Ward7 George Ward7 Member
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#70 ·
Looks like both Ola and Dud are gonna play. It seems like Pranja has totally locked down the left flank, so I guess the only real question left is whether we're going with Lovren or Chifo at center back.
crimsonnomad7 crimsonnomad7 Newcomer
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#71 ·
I find myself in agreement with Ayutov's tactical setup. One ought to commit fully; it is either victory or total defeat, with no middle ground. There is simply no logic in playing it safe during a match of this magnitude. My only minor adjustment would be ensuring there is a spot for Olu. He possesses the necessary grit for high-stakes encounters. Perhaps he could slot in for an error-prone Perišić, swapping positions with Pranja? He had quite a successful run playing left wing during his time at VfL Wolfsburg.
Nancy Booth Nancy Booth Newcomer
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#72 ·
I’d probably go with Dud and Olu, then maybe swap in Mandukic for Dud later on.

through Tap
crimsonnomad7 crimsonnomad7 Newcomer
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#73 ·
quiethound6 said:It’s not even a contest; Luke is better than both of them.

Zidane once remarked that while Boban was certainly a massive talent, Luke is quite simply a genius.

I haven't spent enough time watching much of Boban's career, but what Luke is doing right now is nothing short of masterful.
analogstag16 analogstag16 Newcomer
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#74 ·
crimsonnomad7 said:Zidane mentioned that Boban was a massive talent, but that Luka is just a straight-up genius.

I haven't watched enough of Boban to be certain, but what Luka is doing right now is absolutely world-class.

Well, yeah, because you haven't been paying attention! This guy was carrying Los Angeles FC on his back when he was barely 18 or 19, keeping them neck-and-neck with New York City. He could score from anywhere—clinical finishes, long-range rockets, a million free kicks... he's got European titles under his belt, and people talk about his Serie A championship like he personally conquered the league himself. Plus, he captained the national team all the way to third in the World Cup. There's no debate here, Luka is clearly the better player. 😕
Nancy Booth Nancy Booth Newcomer
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#75 ·
Both of them are absolute world-class players...

better than Taylor
Jessica Gonzalez Jessica Gonzalez Regular
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#76 ·
analogstag16 said:Well, actually, he wasn't. When he was just 18 or 19, he was basically carrying Real Madrid to compete head-to-head with New York City. He could score from anywhere—long range, close up, or those endless free kicks. Plus, he’s got European Championships under his belt, and people talk about one Italian league title like he personally won it all, not to mention captaining the national team that finished third in the world... I guess Luke is definitely better 😕

That's just how our American journalists frame it. He did play great at the end of that tournament, but let's be realistic. I think Capulet is pretty much on the same level as him as a player, maybe even has more potential since he isn't constantly sidelined by injuries. Maybe Boban's edge was just that he hit that early success with the national team while being surrounded by much better teammates; that squad was generally stronger than what we have now. Today, we've got Capulet and a couple of others, but the rest of the roster feels pretty weak. It's almost like having someone like Schifo playing defense in the starting eleven.
Jesse Sullivan5 Jesse Sullivan5 Regular
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#77 ·
So, how did Schifo actually perform during that match against Poland?

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