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urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2016
#1 ·
Something’s not working right...
When I plug my graphics card into the slot on a motherboard that doesn't have integrated graphics, the monitor just won't turn on...
Basically, I power up the computer, the CPU cooler starts spinning, the power supply is running, but there's still no signal on the screen... if I try putting the card in the second slot, the system just starts beeping at me, and still nothing—just fans spinning and no picture...
The motherboard has two slots. For context, here's the GPU:
http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us...on.php?S_ID=45

And this is the motherboard:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/ULi/AM2XLI-eSATA2/
Here's the processor:
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K8/AMD...0DEBOX%29.html
Can anyone give me some solid advice??
Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2014
#2 ·
Plug the graphics card into the PCI-Express slot.

I would pull the battery; it needs at least 3.20 volts.
If it’s dead and you don’t have a spare, leave it out.
Reset BIOS.

Power it on and check for 12 volts on one of the yellow wires from the power supply against black or the case.
It should be at least 11.40 volts.

If everything is correct, the BIOS should trigger.

If it won't start despite everything being fine, I'd say the motherboard is shot. Check the capacitors around the CPU.
That's what happens when you buy motherboards for $27 cheap...
You miss out on quality capacitors that actually last 10 years instead of just two or three.
And it isn't just about capacitors; there are differences in chip quality and other components too.

Furthermore, I won't even bother with products starting with "A," even if I'm short on cash right now. My sanity is worth more than that.
darkbadger12 darkbadger12 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Nov 2015
#3 ·
Try booting the PC without the graphics card installed. If you hear those distinct beeps, that’s a clear sign the GPU is likely the culprit. If it keeps acting up after that, try running it with just a single stick of RAM—assuming you have some spare modules lying around to test with...
Alexander Moore67 Alexander Moore67 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jun 2013
#4 ·
Button cells are rated at 3 volts; I've never heard of anything being 3.2v
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Jan 2016
#5 ·
I’ve swapped out basically everything... the power supply, the CPU, the RAM, I even tried running it without a dedicated GPU... but the performance is still identical. It’ll jump to being twice as fast, then suddenly crawl at eight times the normal speed, then hit that double speed again. I don't have a multimeter on hand to check the voltages here.

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Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2014
#6 ·
Can't you just borrow a different GPU from somewhere?
Watch out—the connectors, slots, and cables for the graphics card need perfect contact. Every single millimeter must seat correctly, otherwise, you won't get a picture. I'm telling you this for future reference.
If everything is functioning properly, even without a monitor attached, the BIOS shouldn't be throwing error codes.
Essentially, the failure could stem from three different sources.
It sounds like a faulty GPU, but it’s entirely possible the power supply is too weak or the motherboard is failing. You can't rely solely on those beep codes; the BIOS doesn't always pinpoint the exact issue. For instance, if it reports a memory error on the video card,
it might actually be because the 12V rail is only delivering 10V. In that case, the GPU fails to perform, and the BIOS incorrectly blames the card itself. It could also be the PCIe slot or a circuit on the motherboard. No one can tell you for certain over the internet.
That is why you need spare parts or a Multimeter. You can use a Multimeter to test the power supply,
but you can't test the motherboard or the GPU with it.
Testing hardware during startup requires zero drivers or software. Just pure hardware.
If you don't have the tools, you don't have a chance. Your only option if you're stuck is to take your card and try it in someone else's PC... assuming they are willing to lend you their card to test yours.
To be honest, I wouldn't even lend my own GPU to anyone except my brother. I taught him how to handle this stuff, so I know he'll treat it like his own.
Besides, I shouldn't need to. I always keep older components around for testing.
I recommend this to everyone: don't just toss everything or sell it all immediately. Otherwise, you end up sitting on old AGP junk that you'll never need again.
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2016
#7 ·
Is there any chance I’m looking at a cold solder joint somewhere on this matte motherboard? It hasn't worked for over a year now...

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Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2014
#8 ·
Where has it been sitting all year? Out in the cold, damp, and humid air? If so, it’s trash.
Did you handle it carefully? Did you make sure not to touch it until it had properly grounded itself?
A single touch can fry all the electronics.
Alexander Moore67 Alexander Moore67 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jun 2013
#9 ·
Maybe if you step outside into some dry air first, then come back and grab the motherboard without touching anything else. Honestly, I've pulled thousands of MBs out of laptops and PCs over the years and never once fried one with static electricity, so that whole theory feels a bit exaggerated to me.
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Jan 2016
#10 ·
It’ll stay in a single room all winter long—one I don't even bother heating. The temperature doesn't even drop below 40 degrees in there, so it should be fine. Honestly, who knows. It sat out on the table without any protective wrap for over a year before this.

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urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
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#11 ·
I just realized there's a capacitor down at the bottom of the board that's getting way too hot... I can't even touch it without getting burned... it's right down where the hard drives plug into the motherboard.

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Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
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joined Oct 2014
#12 ·
That’s strange. Maybe it needs a replacement and a rebuild.

@Alexander Moore67/">@@Alexander Moore67
Regarding static electricity,
it depends on what you're wearing, your footwear, and how you move.
A single minor movement can put thousands of volts on you.
(Safest bet is to go naked.) 😁
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Jan 2016
#13 ·
I just figured I'd toss it in the oven and call it a day. That's really all there is to it.

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fadedorca66 fadedorca66 Regular
372 messages
joined Nov 2022
#14 ·
Yeah, I don't think an oven is gonna fix that problem...
William Robinson2 William Robinson2 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Oct 2011
#15 ·
In my experience, I’ve only ever run into this kind of issue when there was something physically wrong with the processor itself... you might have accidentally bent a pin or something similar during installation...
Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2014
#16 ·
urbanranger26 said:I just put it in the oven and that was that.

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There is no helping you...

I don't get this world. Everyone rushes to the Mechanic soon,
even if nothing is actually broken and it’s just an inspection,
yet when it comes to computers—which are incredibly complex—people just fiddle with them until they break even more, frying motherboards, power supplies... everything, just because they won't go to a specialist.
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
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#17 ·
The motherboard isn't worth even a single hour of a specialist's billable time.

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Sandra Cook60 Sandra Cook60 Active Member
80 messages
joined Oct 2014
#18 ·
How would you know?
Did you take the motherboard to an electronics technician to see if it can be fixed for $17? It would be better to just bring the whole computer and ask. Tell them everything you know.
Maybe one capacitor is blown and it’ll work again. It isn't trash unless the damage goes deeper than a single component. If you aren't a technician, you don't know.
Even with a photo of yours, nobody on this forum can identify your exact motherboard.
You haven't even measured the voltages like I told you. What do you expect? For us all to stare into a crystal ball? You won't follow instructions, and you don't have the tools. You don't understand electricity. Otherwise, we wouldn't have to play fortune teller to find the problem.

Errors can be found, but not every error, and certainly not this way.
I wouldn't hand you a new motherboard for even a second; you'd probably just end up breaking it.

Best,
urbanranger26 urbanranger26 MemberOP
22 messages
joined Jan 2016
#19 ·
I figured someone here might’ve run into this before so I wouldn't waste my time spinning my wheels... look, if this needs a professional mechanic, then fine, let's call it a service job. But if it's just some tiny little glitch that takes thirty seconds to fix, I'm not about to hand over a stack of cash for something so simple. There's really no need for the attitude, either. Honestly, I don't know much about this stuff and I don't have any tools lying around, so I'm out of my element. If you can't help or just don't want to, that's cool—just please don't come at me with the hostility.

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