Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Thomas Flores7 said:Man, look at all these jealous jerks trying to stir the pot. Like, a year and a half ago, this whole crowd would show up with maybe 500 people for home games and barely 40 when we traveled. Now, suddenly, everyone’s acting like they're huge fans just because some heavy metal band started playing... It's kind of funny seeing those guys try to travel to cities where they aren't even allowed in, while we just act like we don't care because we aren't out there counting heads at the exit in San Francisco. They really want to act like they're some big investigative journalists filing reports on who showed up and what happened, probably using police records to back it up too. Honestly, you idiots have quite the little fairy tale going on, so I guess you might as well enjoy it...

What's actually eating you, man? 😕

cosmicbear15 said:You and this guy are on the exact same wavelength...

Does that apply to you too, since you're busy mirroring my arguments? You know how logic works—if a=b and b=c, then a=c.

mistysurfer19 said:Right now, the top supporters group in America can't even fill up a stadium in Seattle, yet a month ago, the guys in their current state could pack out 😉

If we're supposedly number one, then what's the deal?
We can't fill a stadium, someone claims we aren't anything special, and another says we show up to their city too early because we're scared. So, by what metric are we actually number one?🤷🤷🤷

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Man, oh man... just a total gut punch.

Bulgaria vs. America

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I honestly can’t tell if this is supposed to be some kind of deep social commentary or just a really poorly executed meme—it’s hard to say, I guess. It feels like one of those things you see scrolling through your feed at 2 AM when you're too tired to care about nuance. Maybe there's a point buried under all that visual noise, but I'm certainly not seeing it right now. It’s definitely... something.
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Any chance we're seeing the carousel tonight?

Harold Barnes85 said:Anyone doing the carousel tonight?

9:00 PM. Heading out from Walmart toward the hills.

granitemarlin83 said:Around 9 PM, they start heading from Walmart up toward the hills.

that’s just not true 🤷

Preach!

9:00 PM at Walmart

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN-4sZ2q1Xk

On behalf of myself and everyone here in New York City, I just have to say how impressed I am. Last night's performance and the incredible atmosphere were a truly wonderful surprise.
Bravo! Honestly, that was just the icing on the cake, especially considering the squad averages only about twenty-something years old... and I'm not complaining one bit. This version of the Dodgers is worlds apart from how they played last season. What a sudden burst of brilliance. Let The Big Heads deal with their own misery now; the Rose Bowl will be a complete madhouse, and at Max's place, there’ll be a crowd every few feet...😂

(That doesn't mean I've turned my back on my beloved Dynamo, though. It's nothing personal—it's like having an only son who's a bit of a troublemaker, but he's still your kid).🤣

Best regards and good luck!

P.S. (Were the other tickets sold out, except for the north section?)

If this game actually happens in Kyiv—which is anyone's guess at this point—it might just be one of the most dangerous trips the Raiders have ever taken in all of Europe.

And I’m not talking about that brief little track session those Ukrainian jokers put on for the Danes at the stadium; I’m talking about the general vibe in Kyiv right now, with all those armed gangs roaming the streets.

Aaron Richardson7 said:We really need to bring back both Stima and Fiorentina. 🙄

Should we really be asking those 20,000 people today which ones actually bother to pay their dues and stay subscribed?
Where has the whole year gone?
Then we should probably just ask the opposition about those counterfeiters. I mean, what about those 30,000+ people? For goodness' sake, aren't they also members and season ticket holders?

I’m with you on that. Honestly, we need to give these players a reality check—they aren't as untouchable as they think they are. There's a certain threshold where you have to face the music. And then you look at the group today, and it’s like only a handful of kids are actually talking about how we're a young squad and really need to gain some experience. 🙂
And then you have Retaj Milovic out there claiming the younger guys completely blew the game. 🙂
The talent just isn't there, honestly. Every time we get someone actually worth watching, they end up getting sold off immediately. There’s zero long-term vision from the front office—none at all. You can practically smell when some shady agency comes sniffing around offering a quick fix or a kickback. But hey, at the end of the day, you're the one calling the shots on who stays and who goes, so I'd give the decision-making a solid 9/10. Anyway, just my two cents on football.

It’s honestly exhausting. We’ve been bleeding for this club for years now—just our core group of maybe 5,000 or 7,000 diehards. From the old days back when we were just showing up to support the legends to the era where everything felt like it was falling apart, we've been there. It's frustrating when you give everything and get basically nothing in return. You start to see people losing heart. I mean, look at today. After that mess in the second half, they come out onto the field looking completely lost, only to get tagged with two goals by some heavy-drinking guys from Ireland. And then what? Then the excuses start flying. Suddenly it’s all about how they're owed money, or how we’re too young, or how we lack experience. It's just tiring.
It’s honestly such a headache when you have to go through all that effort just to find a day off, only to end up blowing through it all anyway. $167Imagine driving 400 miles just knowing you’re going to end up in rural Alabama knocking back three or four beers. And here we have this kid trying to play peacemaker, telling everyone to calm down because some rookie ref called a penalty from forty yards out. Honestly? I get the rage. But if you lose it and toss a lighter or a flare onto the field, it isn't worth it. You throw one punch or cause enough trouble to get caught, and suddenly you're looking at a month in jail. It messes everything up—your college plans, your job prospects, your relationships. Just isn't worth the headache.

I guess it’s time to go back to square one...
There’s just nothing quite like that pure, unfiltered kind of love. It hits different.
$0.33 The daily cost of memberships and subscriptions really adds up. It’s pretty obvious that most people don't realize the absolute mess this club is in right now. And look, I get it—it’s true that we’re the ones keeping this place alive. But let’s be real: it wasn't every single person from Seattle to Miami who wrote all those anthems. It was us—the core group of maybe 5,000 to 7,000 "idiots" who actually care. We need to face the fact that we can, and honestly should, step up and give a hell of a lot more to this club. 🤷

It feels like every single time we take an L, people start tearing up their season tickets. You see them calling for the coach to get sacked, demanding some new flashy signing, or looking for a "new savior" to fix everything overnight. Especially after a loss like today... it’s wild. Every fifth person isn't even talking about what actually went wrong on the field. Instead, they’re whining about how we "lost the momentum" or how we ruined the positive vibes and the energy around the club. Honestly, isn't that kind of sad?

Who's actually picking up the tab for this?
The city and the government are just walking around with big smiles on their faces while all these various sharks and predators run the show. Honestly, hats off to them for how they handled things out in Istria, but man, it’s unbelievable. If this weren't a place built on so many local myths and old legends, stuff like this would be settled in a heartbeat.
Hey everyone, just realized we’ve officially hit 7,000 members! It’s pretty cool to see—we've got everybody in here, from the grandmas and grandpas to the kids, wives, girlfriends, and even some of the guys who just hang out on the sidelines. 😲
If someone sat me down and talked to me like I was a five-year-old, telling me that people could just go out and buy stocks, or that fans could actually step up and buy a club... man, I’d believe them. I’d probably think everything could be bought and paid for in like, two days flat.
Someone actually told me that our total membership count was going to be one of the most important things for us. I just told them, hey, look, we’ll probably hit at least 50,000 people eventually.
Man...

I honestly couldn't care less about him rambling on about stepping down or whatever else he’s whining about. Seriously, man... the whole city is going to be buzzing. Every single home game, we're looking at 25,000 fans packed into that old stadium. 🤮

It’s like one of those old myths about the City of Legends—on a Saturday night, you basically have to round up ten different people just to track down a little bit of smoke.
"you won't find this kind of thing in New York"
I'm honestly just sick of everyone shoving the club's name and certain groups into their hypocritical mouths every five minutes.

It makes you lose heart for the real supporters—the ones who are always here. And what happens when things get truly surreal? Like when you take four hits, get absolutely crushed 3-0 by some bottom-feeder team, or sell off one of the greatest talents of all time, Vlasic, for a measly couple million just to keep some small-town kids fed...

Then you come home, turn on the computer because today hit you so hard you couldn't even grab a beer after the match, and what do you see? Fifty degenerates acting like experts, talking about selling the club, blaming the coach, or whining, "Why didn't we score three goals?" or "Wouldn't it have helped if that wasn't a missed penalty?" or "Is the owner to blame for the loss today?"
I even saw someone claiming the Raiders are just paid actors because they stay quiet and support the coach while he destroys the club.🙏

Man, it's good to be alive, I guess.☕

Gonna sleep it off, calm down, and then let's just move forward with the Zebras—stronger and smarter next time.

You really hit the nail on the head there... Honestly, seeing all this summer euphoria makes me sick (don't take that the wrong way). Then winter rolls around, everything turns sour, and not even a tenth of these people are left. They're all big shots when it's time to scramble for tickets in the North Stand, but when things get tough in the winter and we actually need to show up and push harder, they're either sitting at home or tucked away in some cafe, talking trash about the new owner or whoever else.
And I don't get the city of Miami nearly as much when they swear they live for Hajduk Split. If things were really as deep as people claim, we wouldn't have 8,000 or 9,000 of us showing up for home games (counting the North Stand crowd, maybe even fewer), especially since half the people are coming from places like Chicago, Los Angeles, Houston, or San Diego. Where are the actual locals then? And don't even get me started on the away games... peace out, guys.

Had a dream last night about this guy. We were just shooting the breeze about Hajduk, and I asked him straight up if he was even a member, if he had a subscription or anything. He says, "Nope, nothing." So I snap at him, telling him there’s really no point in us talking about Hajduk if he isn't truly part of it—and then, right then, he pulls out his Raiders membership card to show me. 🙂🙂🙂

The guy lives in Miami. 🙂🙂🙂

Tyler Thomas15 said:Are you even a member of Hajduk Split? Do you have a subscription? Nothing at all.

And then he goes and shows me his Raiders membership card.

I just can't wrap my head around this, I really can't. The idea that someone could be part of the Raiders but not actually be a member of Hajduk Split... Like, that one of those 5,000 or 7,000 people from the north isn't a club member? I mean, I honestly don't get it.

I guess I get that there are some people out there where the group is just more important than the actual club. That’s totally clear to me; it’s always been that way, maybe even a little more so in this modern era, but for me personally, it's just completely incomprehensible. Okay, sure, maybe there are a few individuals here and there who just love that whole ultra vibe—you know, showing up for the games just for the atmosphere while they don't actually care about the football itself. Hajduk is just the excuse to go. But I don't think that's just a couple of guys; it seems like more.

I remember how much people judged me when I wrote that I’d rather see the Raiders take five hits and have them filmed on camera by fifty idiots, rather than have us filming ourselves acting crazy, or anything else, instead of focusing on the club losing a massive game.
Whether it's big for the score, the atmosphere, or the finances.

People came after me, especially when I explained that everything involving the Raiders actually affects me too. It's not like I hold those views because, well, I don't really give a damn about the group anymore; I'm just not interested in the fan scene stuff. But it still gets to me when I see our banner being used near the Russians, especially after days of talking about it. But man, the club comes first. It's way, WAY ahead of anything else.

Honestly, no matter how hard I try, I just can't grasp it.

I suppose anyone heading to Ukraine, if things actually escalate, should probably be smart about it. It's going to be hell. And I wouldn't even be surprised if the Russians dropped by; it wouldn't be the first time. They and the Mexicans, they have that one thing in common: traveling around when your club isn't playing just to vent some frustrations...

Jeremy Mitchell11 said:I just can't wrap my head around it—period. The idea that someone could be part of the NFL Ultras without actually being a supporter of Liverpool FC. That one of those 5,000–7,000 people in the North stands isn't even a club member. I don't get it, end of story.

Look, I realize some people value the group more than the club itself—that’s clear, it’s always been that way, maybe even more so lately—but to me, it's completely incomprehensible. Sure, you might have a few individuals who just love the ultra lifestyle, showing up for the games because they crave the atmosphere while they couldn't care less about the actual football. Liverpool FC just happens to be their excuse to show up. But we aren't talking about a handful of outliers here.

I remember how people looked at me when I wrote that I’d rather see the NFL Ultras take a beating from five guys—and have it all caught on camera—than watch us lose a crucial match. I'd rather see them getting chased by fifty people or whatever, as long as it meant avoiding a loss for the club in a major game.
Whether it's important for the score, the atmosphere, or the finances.

People came after me, especially when I explained that I actually *do* care about everything surrounding the NFL Ultras. It's not that I hold that view—it's just that, frankly, I don't give a damn about the group anymore. I'm not interested in the fans, period. But it still stings when I see our banner displayed near the Russians, especially after days of talk about it. But screw it—the club comes first. Way ahead of anything else.

Quite simply, no matter how hard I try, I just can't grasp it.

Anyone heading to Ukraine—assuming they even let people go—should be smart about it. Very smart. It’s going to be hell, and honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the Russians showed up; it's not like it would be their first time. They and the Mexicans share one thing in common: traveling around when your club isn't playing just to vent some frustrations...

Do you have that guy's number? I need it for today.

Good grief, the man didn't quite package his thoughts correctly, if you catch my drift, but I suspect we all know exactly what he’s getting at here!!
Isn't that just the truth!!!

Does anyone know how much the club membership dues run per year?

When it comes to Ukraine, money is always the best friend... 😁