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electricridge7 electricridge7 Member
16 messages
joined May 2012
#1001 ·
Look, people, we HAVE to do something. Five years ago, we were watching the big derby at the Rose Bowl. Last year, we were stuck watching the local rivalry outside the stadium near the park. If the gates to the Rose Bowl stay locked for a third game in a row, it doesn't mean we just sit around. We can find any way possible to show up and back the Los Angeles Dodgers. I get what people are saying—that we’re just asking for trouble or that the cops are just waiting to jump us—but I’d much rather break a rule knowing I actually stood my ground than sit on my couch at home staying warm and doing nothing.
Michael Doyle72 Michael Doyle72 Member
27 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1002 ·
They won't slap us with bans if we just stand our ground and cheer. We have every right—and indeed an obligation—to show up in front of the North Stand and make some noise. Certain decisive actions need to be taken that will likely trigger consequences, but those moves must come from the Kansas City Chiefs organization itself, not from us fans; if we act directly, the club ends up taking the heat. Even if they get squeezed, the club needs to take this hit. Look at when they pushed back against the voucher system; the club ignored the regulations and opened the away section despite the rules, even though following them would have meant certain sanctions. That was the death knell for the voucher scheme, which still hasn't truly died. Similarly, the Chiefs MUST react now. Some say there's no point in appealing because it costs 4 $0.00, but damn it, it matters to us fans. We will scrape together the 4 $0.00 ourselves to fund an appeal. If that gets rejected, then at the next game, we treat the delegates and referees like a graveyard. Honestly, the public statements from the leadership seem to have more backbone than the actual management; let them head to the center of power and cause chaos if they have to, and if they need to drag this all the way to the Supreme Court, so be it. If there are legal experts on the board, they should be using those skills to file private lawsuits against anyone necessary—just keep fighting until we prove we actually matter. The Black Knights can lose their seats, and the Chiefs can be fined for poor organization—fine, no problem—but then we immediately launch private lawsuits against the Black Knights for damages and against the Seattle Sounders FC to compensate. That’s how this works. If they think they can screw us over whenever they feel like it, we can do the exact same thing to them, provided we have the guts. The biggest beast retreats once you show your teeth, and these cowards are acting like deserters who ran the moment a constructive plan was laid out. They will fall just the same. We are the Kansas City Chiefs, and that name carries weight; we aren't some bottom-tier amateur squad.
Nicholas Cruz2 Nicholas Cruz2 Member
12 messages
joined Nov 2014
#1003 ·
Michael Doyle72 said:They aren't going to slap us with bans if we just stand our ground and cheer. We should—and absolutely can—show up in front of the North Stand and make some noise; honestly, it’s our duty. Certain steps need to be taken that might, or rather, definitely lead to consequences, but those actions have to come from the Kansas City Chiefs organization, not from us fans. If we act out directly, they'll just use it as an excuse to step on the club again. Even if they do go after the club, it doesn't matter; the club needs to take this stand. For instance, when they tried that voucher scheme, we were the first ones to tell them to shove it, and the club ended up opening the away section despite regulations specifically designed to prevent it—even though following those rules would have triggered some ridiculous sanctions. We all know that was the final nail in the coffin for that voucher nonsense, which apparently still exists somehow. Just like now, the Chiefs MUST react. Some guy says there's no point in appealing because it costs 4 $0.00. Well, I say there is plenty of point, damn it. We, the fans, will scrape together the 4 $0.00 to file the appeal. And if the appeal gets rejected? Then at the next game, we treat the delegates and the refs like they're walking through a graveyard. Honestly, certain people in the media seem to have more backbone than the management. Let them head down to the central office and cause hell; let them drag this all the way to the Supreme Court if they have to. What is the point of having legal experts on the board if they don't use those skills to file private lawsuits against these people? They should keep fighting, even if they have to do it a hundred times a week, just to show that we actually mean something. The Black Knights wreck the seats, and then the Chiefs get punished because they weren't "good organizers"? Fine, whatever. But after that, we should launch a private lawsuit against the Black Knights for damages and against Seattle Sounders FC as well. That's how you play it. If they can screw us over whenever they feel like it, we can certainly push back—we just need to have the guts to do it. The biggest beast will retreat once you show it your teeth, and right now, these cowards are acting like they're fleeing the second a constructive plan is put in place. That's how they'll fall. We are the Kansas City Chiefs, and that name carries weight; we aren't some bottom-tier amateur squad.

Those damn seats... one person stands up and they start snapping like crazy.
shadowangler8 shadowangler8 Member
30 messages
joined Sep 2014
#1004 ·
Frank Sanchez37 said:You're probably a former hooligan yourself, so you think you're an expert on quality here.😁
Are we even supposed to know if the stuff from the Long Beach crowd or the San Diego crew is any better?

The fine against San Diego wasn't actually about those seats... apparently, they claim we were throwing shurikens and nunchucks at people... or that we were just lighting flares and letting off massive clouds of smoke...
driftingotter47 driftingotter47 Newcomer
9 messages
joined Jun 2018
#1005 ·
shadowangler8 said:The fine against San Diego wasn't just about those seats... apparently we were out there throwing shurikens and nunchucks... or maybe we were just lighting flares and breathing fire like some kind of maniacs...

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Frank Sanchez37 Frank Sanchez37 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1006 ·
shadowangler8 said:The fine wasn't actually about the seats in San Diego... apparently we were all throwing shurikens and nunchucks around... or maybe just lighting flares and making a massive smoky mess...

well, I don't think he was talking about that last game against San Diego specifically, but rather just the general state of the seating over there... honestly, if you sit down too hard in those chairs, they feel like they're about to snap right under you.😁
Andrew Thompson75 Andrew Thompson75 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Feb 2013
#1007 ·
The spirit found within the Maximilian Stadium faithful—those folks who simply refuse to burn out or break under pressure—possesses a quality that is truly one of a kind...☕
electricridge7 electricridge7 Member
16 messages
joined May 2012
#1008 ·
Michael Doyle72 said:They won't hit us with bans if we just show up and cheer. We can and should stand in front of the North Stand and make noise—actually, it’s our duty. Sure, steps need to be taken that might (definitely) lead to some consequences, but the Kansas City Chiefs have to pull the trigger on that, not us fans. If we act, they’ll just use it as an excuse to stomp on the club. Even if they do, whatever, the club has to take a stand. Look at when they tried to force those voucher schemes on us; we shut that down immediately, and the club opened the away section despite the rules trying to block it. That was the nail in the coffin for the voucher nonsense. It's the same now: the Chiefs MUST react. Some guy says there's no point in appealing because it costs 4 $0.00. To hell with that. There is plenty of point for us fans. We'll scrape together the 4 $0.00 to file the appeal. If they reject it, then next game, we treat the referees and delegates like a graveyard. And honestly, the public faces of this organization seem to have more balls than the higher-ups; let them head to the central office and cause chaos if they have to. Let them drag this all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. What's the point of having lawyers on the board if they don't use those skills to file private lawsuits against anyone who crosses us? They should be suing people ten times a week just to prove we actually matter. The Black Knights get fined or lose seats because the Chiefs failed at organizing? Fine. Then file a private lawsuit against the Black Knights for damages and against Seattle Sounders FC. That's how you play it. If they think they can screw us over whenever they feel like it, we can do the exact same thing—we just need the guts. The biggest beast retreats once you show it your teeth. These cowards flee the moment a constructive plan is put together. They'll fall just like that. We are the identity of this team, and that name carries weight. We aren't some bottom-tier amateur squad

I feel like it's harder for the club to make a splash than it is for us. Hardly any fan group has pulled off protests and initiatives quite like the Hell Angels. Just look at the "Board Out" movement, the "Code," and the "Our Chiefs" campaign. There are tons of us, we're ready to do anything for the Kansas City Chiefs, and no matter how hard they try to shut us down, we always end up coming out on top.
What does the club have to do? File an appeal that gets tossed out? Or take radical measures like that one guy who's suffering worse consequences today than any fan facing a ban? He realized that when you're surrounded by wolves, you have to be a wolf too, even if the pack is stronger.
As for the board members, we picked them. I'm not going to trash them until the things we demanded actually start working. Ever since the fans "took over" the club, the Chiefs have finished every year in the black.
And look, I didn't offer a specific step-by-step plan, I just said something needs to happen.
electricridge7 electricridge7 Member
16 messages
joined May 2012
#1009 ·
Look, let’s be real here. In any functioning league, a club would absolutely have a seat at the table. But when you're dealing with a country where one single guy pulls the strings for the entire federation, the national team, seven out of ten teams in the league, the refereeing commission, and all the other governing bodies? In that kind of setup, the Kansas City Chiefs can say whatever they want and it won't mean a damn thing.
Kate Foster17 Kate Foster17 Newcomer
1 message
joined Jul 2013
#1010 ·
The Department of Justice, the FBI, and some buddy of his sitting on the Supreme Court—he’s pulling all the strings, and they're holding them back. But like people say around here, he can play games for a while, just not forever. Once we're all gone, the truth will come out...
Michael Doyle72 Michael Doyle72 Member
27 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1011 ·
Look, I am willing to go to extremes for the Kansas City Chiefs because my loyalty is absolute, but I don't think we as a collective—and I mean the entire fanbase, not just some small active core—should be wasting our energy on petty nonsense. Lighting flares at the stadium out of pure spite for the next five seasons would be easy, but that isn't the goal. We need to stay focused on the current ownership project and maintain our organizational structure. The Chiefs might act like they are against everyone else, but they actually need to start making life difficult for the federation; the club needs to fight back against the league officials. I want to see the club leadership show real backbone and grit, much like how certain figures have stood their ground previously, by forcing those bureaucrats to face the consequences of their actions. I don't support withdrawing from the league entirely, because that would essentially hand them a victory despite their hollow claims about wanting a strong team. The facts show that under the current management, things are moving in the right direction and the finances are stabilizing. However, enough is enough regarding the club representatives being too polite. It is time for leadership to stop chasing validation from Italy or playing games with national team interests in Miami and instead state clearly at a press conference that no federation officials or representatives from those other clubs are welcome in Miami until this is resolved.
Michael Doyle72 Michael Doyle72 Member
27 messages
joined Jul 2012
#1012 ·
People once believed certain politicians were untouchable, yet look at how they eventually fall. This guy isn't omnipotent either; he’s just slippery and knows exactly how to exploit loopholes in the legal system. There is some small comfort in knowing that his reign won't last forever, as his influence will inevitably wane once he loses his grip on the people profiting from him. If those previous figures fell, this one is next. The entire organization will collapse within two years, regardless of who is at the helm.
Donna Kim6 Donna Kim6 Member
12 messages
joined Apr 2023
#1013 ·
Michael Doyle72 said:...He really needs to stop trying to bait the Italian national team or play games with matches held in Miami. He should just step up at a press conference and state clearly that until things change, nobody representing the federation or those specific clubs from Washington, D.C. is welcome in Miami.

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electricridge7 electricridge7 Member
16 messages
joined May 2012
#1014 ·
Look, I’m not saying we should go storm the headquarters of the US Soccer Federation on derby day, for crying out loud, but I am itching for this matchup against Washington, D.C. This is the third straight game without fans in the stands, and honestly? It’s driving me crazy. I can't just sit at home feeling this restless.
I’m also sitting here hoping the big boss ends up behind bars like those corrupt mayors or governors we see in the news, though there’s always that slim chance he pulls a stunt and dies before he ever sees a courtroom—like those old radical politicians who go out without facing justice.
And let's be real: losing the guy in charge doesn't mean the team's performance will tank. Ever since the US became its own powerhouse, this club has been an absolute money-making machine. It was one owner, then it was this guy, and eventually, it'll be someone else entirely. That's not even the point here.
vividotter40 vividotter40 Active Member
148 messages
joined Feb 2013
#1015 ·
Kudos to Sučidar!!!
Frank Sanchez37 Frank Sanchez37 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1016 ·
vividotter40 said:WAY TO GO, SUČIDAR!!!

I was just about to drop this link myself, but you beat me to the punch, man, you really did. 😁

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shadowangler8 shadowangler8 Member
30 messages
joined Sep 2014
#1017 ·
Damn you.😁
Donna Kim6 Donna Kim6 Member
12 messages
joined Apr 2023
#1018 ·
Frank Sanchez37 Frank Sanchez37 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1019 ·
Since I’m assuming most of you probably already heard the news, but just in case you missed it:
There’s a parade happening today at 6:11 PM, starting over by City Hall—if anyone feels like tagging along, come on down! We'll be marching through downtown all the way toward the suburbs. Bring your flags and let's light things up.
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
72 messages
joined Sep 2014
#1020 ·
Huge props to the Hell Angels! Way to go, guys!

A thousand people, led by the Hell Angels, gathered in Miami to honor the anniversary of the fall of Warsaw with such dignity.

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