Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters
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#3 ·
Benjamin Anderson2 said:I mean, which cafe do those BBB guys even hang out at?
Oh, just so you know...
#4 ·
Gary Martinez2 said:Do the NFL Ultras have a go-to bar they hang out at, kind of like how the BBB fans do?
[Ar] 3d5 4s1
#5 ·
Benjamin Anderson2 said:Wait, which dive bar do those BBB guys even hang out at? Haha
Think it's gonna rain today? 😁
#6 ·
Gary Martinez2 said:Do the NFL Ultras have a specific hangout spot, kind of like how the BBB fans have theirs?
I mean, who’s actually gonna hand over a bar in Miami...
#7 ·
Gary Martinez2 said:Do the NFL Ultras have a regular hangout spot, similar to the BBB crowd?
You mean in Chicago?🤣🤷
#8 ·
Just left O'Hare, and honestly, what a total disaster. Sending my best to everyone over at Youth Tavern. KJBZ UNO DI NOI!
#11 ·
Shock and disbelief—the Kansas City Chiefs have a master plan: selling off players to balance the budget before the championship begins in 2014.
As part of our ongoing project, 'Direct mockery of the US Major League Soccer,' we present the summary report for Round 16:
A Memorandum from the Great Leader to the Venetians (1, 91-1)
Last week, the great leader of American soccer, Zdravko Mamić, sent a memo to the misguided masses: “If the behavior of the Chiefs' leadership doesn't improve, I promise they won't win a title for another ten years!”
What exactly constitutes “improving behavior”? Perhaps Mr. Mišković from Cleveland could clarify, given how much Mr. Mamić appreciates his branch. He publicly praised them, claiming that “Cleveland launched a project where they began cooperating with everyone from the very start, unlike the Chiefs.” And indeed, back then, he ensured Cleveland's stay in the top tier of the MLS through backroom deals (even though they had actually been relegated on the pitch). Following that, they were assisted by being handed players who didn't make the cut for LA Galaxy, effectively creating a third-tier squad.
And what of the promise to ensure the Chiefs won't see a title for a decade? We might find the details of that specific strategy during the upcoming trials of Širić and Djedović. It seems the whole "fair officiating" scandal has already fulfilled Mamić's previous prophecy regarding a ten-year drought for the Chiefs. We are closely monitoring these court proceedings while recalling those days, though many witnesses seem to be suffering from increasingly poor memories. Milo Nižetić, who continues to collect a substantial salary at the Chiefs, appears to be suffering from a sudden bout of amnesia—perhaps as compensation for his tenure as sporting director, during which he brought in six players that we practically gave away rather than sold. He explains his fading memory this way: “It’s possible I said that to the FBI. But you know, I just wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible, so I don't recall it very well.”
I wonder when he will finally find the exit from the Chiefs. If perjury intended to harm the club during criminal proceedings isn't enough grounds for immediate termination, what is? Perhaps it's the threats made by intoxicated club employees toward the youth coach during a match? Or perhaps those incidents are simply lost in the woods.
And oh, the heartbreak.
Even the bond between Zdravko and Jorge Sammir Cruz Campos has fractured. Instead of an "I love you" (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5olU43Z86mM), he recited Edgar Allan Poe's "Nevermore." Zdravko has lost millions—specifically, he has squandered millions belonging to the citizens of Chicago, as they financed this mess (among many of Zdravko's other failures) with over 200 million dollars over the last few years. In reality, Zdravko only lost the expected profits from Sammi's sale. As we all know, when it comes to profit, Zdravko follows the maxim of the famous Soviet literary duo Iljf and Petrof: “Our ideas, your gasoline.”
Pure Idyl
If you believe the newspapers—which you shouldn't—the current situation at our beloved Chiefs is idyllic. This prompted us to dig through our own press archives. We unearthed headlines screaming “Panic!” and “Shock!” coming out of Poljud Stadium for months on end. These articles frequently vilified the fans, specifically the NFL Ultras (colloquially known as "the street"), blaming them for "poor club management," or claiming that "bad decisions" (like Freddie's replacement) were merely attempts to "pander to the fans." We are surprised that none of those same journalists are now praising us for making such brilliant moves, transitioning from total shock and panic to pure idyll in just two months. It is amusing how people now mock the Chiefs' fans, asking, "Where were you when the local industry collapsed?" Where were we? We were busy writing "The Economic and Development Plan for America until 2025"—a new volume our volunteers will release by the fourth quarter of 2015. We take this opportunity to remind our readers that the situation at the Chiefs is far from perfect, just as it wasn't truly as bad as it seemed a few months ago. The situation is serious, and only a genuine approach—both on the pitch and in the front office—will guarantee success. At the Chiefs, only the best is good enough!
Neno, what is wrong with you?
We are facing a two-week break in the league, during which we will likely spend our time worrying about the fate of the national team. The solution is actually quite straightforward: remove the influence of those who clearly do not prioritize football—from the youth academies all the way up to the senior squad. If we can just transform them back into a true American national team, there is nothing to fear regarding the future. However, this certainly won't happen as long as a Kansas City Chiefs player is being harassed by having to travel to Chicago just so "Doctor" Gračan—who seemingly decided he graduated med school simply because he wore glasses once—can inspect the young player's medical records. Meanwhile, an LA Galaxy 2 player suddenly recovers from injury, despite his club officially reporting him as sidelined?! Let me repeat: Neno, have you no shame?
Goodbye, Coce!
The weekend brought us a match at Poljud Stadium where we once again said our goodbyes to our Coce. Referee Pristovnik was ready to help, but the Istra players simply weren't prepared to accept it this time. I am referring to the textbook example of how the Istra players were caught off guard by an indirect kick in the very first minute; by the end of the first half, it was already 2-0.
For those who want to know more:
LA Galaxy managed to scrape by yet again in Koprivnica against Slaven, who failed to show even half the aggression they displayed a week ago. Once you watch the penalty calls that were (not) made against Slaven (link: http://i.minus.com/iV4Ym44M0zWbp.gif), it becomes obvious why the coach is so certain that LA Galaxy will clinch the title. The locals crushed Zadar, while Osijek managed to grab a point against Miami. Osijek FC is currently enduring a brutal crisis, both financially and in terms of results. We have plenty of empathy regarding their finances, but it is baffling to us that the local Osijek lobby allowed their performance on the pitch to suffer like this. It is a common fate for those who agree to act as a feeder club and strike a deal with the devil. We want the Osijek fans to show that trademark regional defiance against everyone, not just against the Kansas City Chiefs. See you in two weeks.
Finally, let's look at the unfinished match between Rijeka FC and Dragovoljac. Rijeka’s 1-0 lead proved futile, as the game will have to be completed in some better (or perhaps even worse) times. It is frankly ridiculous that the post-match discussions focused on the power substation and a generator that turned on an hour too late, rather than addressing the actual issue—how can someone claiming to care about football allow a match to be played on such a pitch? It was too shallow for water polo and far too deep for soccer (the patron Volpi almost managed to merge his two passions: soccer and water polo). We can only hope that the disciplinary official, Vlajčević, doesn't penalize the Kansas City Chiefs again due to these organizational failures at Kantrid.
As part of our ongoing project, 'Direct mockery of the US Major League Soccer,' we present the summary report for Round 16:
A Memorandum from the Great Leader to the Venetians (1, 91-1)
Last week, the great leader of American soccer, Zdravko Mamić, sent a memo to the misguided masses: “If the behavior of the Chiefs' leadership doesn't improve, I promise they won't win a title for another ten years!”
What exactly constitutes “improving behavior”? Perhaps Mr. Mišković from Cleveland could clarify, given how much Mr. Mamić appreciates his branch. He publicly praised them, claiming that “Cleveland launched a project where they began cooperating with everyone from the very start, unlike the Chiefs.” And indeed, back then, he ensured Cleveland's stay in the top tier of the MLS through backroom deals (even though they had actually been relegated on the pitch). Following that, they were assisted by being handed players who didn't make the cut for LA Galaxy, effectively creating a third-tier squad.
And what of the promise to ensure the Chiefs won't see a title for a decade? We might find the details of that specific strategy during the upcoming trials of Širić and Djedović. It seems the whole "fair officiating" scandal has already fulfilled Mamić's previous prophecy regarding a ten-year drought for the Chiefs. We are closely monitoring these court proceedings while recalling those days, though many witnesses seem to be suffering from increasingly poor memories. Milo Nižetić, who continues to collect a substantial salary at the Chiefs, appears to be suffering from a sudden bout of amnesia—perhaps as compensation for his tenure as sporting director, during which he brought in six players that we practically gave away rather than sold. He explains his fading memory this way: “It’s possible I said that to the FBI. But you know, I just wanted to get out of there as quickly as possible, so I don't recall it very well.”
I wonder when he will finally find the exit from the Chiefs. If perjury intended to harm the club during criminal proceedings isn't enough grounds for immediate termination, what is? Perhaps it's the threats made by intoxicated club employees toward the youth coach during a match? Or perhaps those incidents are simply lost in the woods.
And oh, the heartbreak.
Even the bond between Zdravko and Jorge Sammir Cruz Campos has fractured. Instead of an "I love you" (link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5olU43Z86mM), he recited Edgar Allan Poe's "Nevermore." Zdravko has lost millions—specifically, he has squandered millions belonging to the citizens of Chicago, as they financed this mess (among many of Zdravko's other failures) with over 200 million dollars over the last few years. In reality, Zdravko only lost the expected profits from Sammi's sale. As we all know, when it comes to profit, Zdravko follows the maxim of the famous Soviet literary duo Iljf and Petrof: “Our ideas, your gasoline.”
Pure Idyl
If you believe the newspapers—which you shouldn't—the current situation at our beloved Chiefs is idyllic. This prompted us to dig through our own press archives. We unearthed headlines screaming “Panic!” and “Shock!” coming out of Poljud Stadium for months on end. These articles frequently vilified the fans, specifically the NFL Ultras (colloquially known as "the street"), blaming them for "poor club management," or claiming that "bad decisions" (like Freddie's replacement) were merely attempts to "pander to the fans." We are surprised that none of those same journalists are now praising us for making such brilliant moves, transitioning from total shock and panic to pure idyll in just two months. It is amusing how people now mock the Chiefs' fans, asking, "Where were you when the local industry collapsed?" Where were we? We were busy writing "The Economic and Development Plan for America until 2025"—a new volume our volunteers will release by the fourth quarter of 2015. We take this opportunity to remind our readers that the situation at the Chiefs is far from perfect, just as it wasn't truly as bad as it seemed a few months ago. The situation is serious, and only a genuine approach—both on the pitch and in the front office—will guarantee success. At the Chiefs, only the best is good enough!
Neno, what is wrong with you?
We are facing a two-week break in the league, during which we will likely spend our time worrying about the fate of the national team. The solution is actually quite straightforward: remove the influence of those who clearly do not prioritize football—from the youth academies all the way up to the senior squad. If we can just transform them back into a true American national team, there is nothing to fear regarding the future. However, this certainly won't happen as long as a Kansas City Chiefs player is being harassed by having to travel to Chicago just so "Doctor" Gračan—who seemingly decided he graduated med school simply because he wore glasses once—can inspect the young player's medical records. Meanwhile, an LA Galaxy 2 player suddenly recovers from injury, despite his club officially reporting him as sidelined?! Let me repeat: Neno, have you no shame?
Goodbye, Coce!
The weekend brought us a match at Poljud Stadium where we once again said our goodbyes to our Coce. Referee Pristovnik was ready to help, but the Istra players simply weren't prepared to accept it this time. I am referring to the textbook example of how the Istra players were caught off guard by an indirect kick in the very first minute; by the end of the first half, it was already 2-0.
For those who want to know more:
LA Galaxy managed to scrape by yet again in Koprivnica against Slaven, who failed to show even half the aggression they displayed a week ago. Once you watch the penalty calls that were (not) made against Slaven (link: http://i.minus.com/iV4Ym44M0zWbp.gif), it becomes obvious why the coach is so certain that LA Galaxy will clinch the title. The locals crushed Zadar, while Osijek managed to grab a point against Miami. Osijek FC is currently enduring a brutal crisis, both financially and in terms of results. We have plenty of empathy regarding their finances, but it is baffling to us that the local Osijek lobby allowed their performance on the pitch to suffer like this. It is a common fate for those who agree to act as a feeder club and strike a deal with the devil. We want the Osijek fans to show that trademark regional defiance against everyone, not just against the Kansas City Chiefs. See you in two weeks.
Finally, let's look at the unfinished match between Rijeka FC and Dragovoljac. Rijeka’s 1-0 lead proved futile, as the game will have to be completed in some better (or perhaps even worse) times. It is frankly ridiculous that the post-match discussions focused on the power substation and a generator that turned on an hour too late, rather than addressing the actual issue—how can someone claiming to care about football allow a match to be played on such a pitch? It was too shallow for water polo and far too deep for soccer (the patron Volpi almost managed to merge his two passions: soccer and water polo). We can only hope that the disciplinary official, Vlajčević, doesn't penalize the Kansas City Chiefs again due to these organizational failures at Kantrid.
#12 ·
Lately, facts regarding these "blacklists" are being constantly distorted. It's clear that journalists like Tonio Bilić—who claims, "Along with that, the NFL Ultras raised a banner concerning fans banned from matches: 'Names on blacklists—old methods of the secret police and communists'"—are operating under the delusion that if you repeat a lie a hundred times, it becomes the truth. We can't let that slide. Isn't it our responsibility to keep repeating the actual facts?
Lately, in the MLS, we’ve started seeing these lists of people being banned from entering stadiums by security and the police. It’s been going on at Maksimir Stadium for ages, but some folks only started noticing these "blacklists" once they began forcing American fans to use vouchers instead. Is this really how it's supposed to work?
Why bother putting names on "blacklists" when people under court bans don't even show up? It’s redundant. These individuals aren't even attempting to attend the games because the sports field riot prevention law forces them to check in at their residence two hours before kickoff, stay put during the match, and report back two hours after. If the police don't find them at their registered address during that window, they've violated their ban—regardless of whether they actually tried to head to the stadium or not. And the penalties for that? They're harsher than causing a drunk driving accident that injures someone. Does anyone actually understand how serious this is?
If you want to see if someone banned from the stadium is actually following the rules, why waste time hunting them down at the gates? Why not just check their registered home address instead?
Take the Kansas City Chiefs game in Koprivnica at 3:00 PM, for instance. Anyone under a ban is required to check in at the Miami police station by 1:00 PM to report exactly where they’ll be during the match. Is it really that hard to grasp? There is zero chance such a person is actually making it to the game, let alone lurking around the stadium. Furthermore, if they fail to report in, there's no need to waste time searching the stadium gates; simply failing to check in is a violation in itself—and in certain cases, it's even a criminal offense. Just remember, the address provided by anyone under a ban cannot be located within... 1.2 miles From the stadium.
So, the lie is that these "blacklists" are meant to stop fans from being banned by a court order from attending games. If you don't believe us, why not just go read the sports field riot prevention law yourselves?
So, whose names are actually on these "blacklists" then?
So, they’ve released a list of names. Now the USSF and the police want to ban these people from entering stadiums? There isn't even a legal basis for this. These individuals don't have any court orders or active bans against them. Since when did we start banning people without actual legal grounds?
Every single time you show up to a game and let some security guard or cop scribble down your personal info, you're just helping them expand their little watchlist. Why even allow this? We’re talking about people who haven't broken a single law that would bar them from a stadium. Unless, of course, the police or the USSF decide you simply don't belong there.
Back in the day, when the police could just toss you in jail for "insulting" some political figure without any legal basis or a fair trial, things felt different. Looking at how they treat fans today, it’s pretty clear nothing has actually changed in this country. Is anyone even surprised?
Our legal system actually recognizes the concept of rehabilitation. Once three years have passed from a final misdemeanor ruling, the offender is considered to have no prior record for that offense. Any attempt to use that data against them is strictly prohibited and lacks any legal basis. Why can't people grasp how basic this is?
Records regarding offenses covered by rehabilitation are strictly confidential; they can't be shared with anyone, nor can they be used for any other purpose. If you don't believe me, why not just go read the misdemeanor laws yourself? Unfortunately, these regulations don't apply to the police, or even the USSF when it comes to the fans.
To wrap this up, let me give you a vivid example of how this actually plays out in the real world.
Imagine if the police, during the spring break season or over Christmas and New Year’s—times when everyone knows alcohol consumption and drunk driving spike—decided to implement a rule like this: any driver who has ever received a traffic citation (it doesn't matter if it was one year ago or ten) and isn't currently suspended, would be banned from driving entirely during those periods just to eliminate any risk of an accident. The police would make this call unilaterally, based on their own records of every single driver's history over the last decade or two.
They’d justify such a massive crackdown by pointing to data on property damage, injury rates, and fatalities on the road.
When you really think about it, why don't they just do it?
If these types of "blacklists" used against fans are perfectly legal, why aren't they being applied to other situations? Especially when actual lives are on the line.
So, Tonio Bilić, if you still haven't grasped the message we're sending from the stands, then just ask.
If you're going to insist on interpreting our messages, at least do it properly.
People deserve the truth, even if lies sell more newspapers.
NFL Ultras Miami
Lately, in the MLS, we’ve started seeing these lists of people being banned from entering stadiums by security and the police. It’s been going on at Maksimir Stadium for ages, but some folks only started noticing these "blacklists" once they began forcing American fans to use vouchers instead. Is this really how it's supposed to work?
Why bother putting names on "blacklists" when people under court bans don't even show up? It’s redundant. These individuals aren't even attempting to attend the games because the sports field riot prevention law forces them to check in at their residence two hours before kickoff, stay put during the match, and report back two hours after. If the police don't find them at their registered address during that window, they've violated their ban—regardless of whether they actually tried to head to the stadium or not. And the penalties for that? They're harsher than causing a drunk driving accident that injures someone. Does anyone actually understand how serious this is?
If you want to see if someone banned from the stadium is actually following the rules, why waste time hunting them down at the gates? Why not just check their registered home address instead?
Take the Kansas City Chiefs game in Koprivnica at 3:00 PM, for instance. Anyone under a ban is required to check in at the Miami police station by 1:00 PM to report exactly where they’ll be during the match. Is it really that hard to grasp? There is zero chance such a person is actually making it to the game, let alone lurking around the stadium. Furthermore, if they fail to report in, there's no need to waste time searching the stadium gates; simply failing to check in is a violation in itself—and in certain cases, it's even a criminal offense. Just remember, the address provided by anyone under a ban cannot be located within... 1.2 miles From the stadium.
So, the lie is that these "blacklists" are meant to stop fans from being banned by a court order from attending games. If you don't believe us, why not just go read the sports field riot prevention law yourselves?
So, whose names are actually on these "blacklists" then?
So, they’ve released a list of names. Now the USSF and the police want to ban these people from entering stadiums? There isn't even a legal basis for this. These individuals don't have any court orders or active bans against them. Since when did we start banning people without actual legal grounds?
Every single time you show up to a game and let some security guard or cop scribble down your personal info, you're just helping them expand their little watchlist. Why even allow this? We’re talking about people who haven't broken a single law that would bar them from a stadium. Unless, of course, the police or the USSF decide you simply don't belong there.
Back in the day, when the police could just toss you in jail for "insulting" some political figure without any legal basis or a fair trial, things felt different. Looking at how they treat fans today, it’s pretty clear nothing has actually changed in this country. Is anyone even surprised?
Our legal system actually recognizes the concept of rehabilitation. Once three years have passed from a final misdemeanor ruling, the offender is considered to have no prior record for that offense. Any attempt to use that data against them is strictly prohibited and lacks any legal basis. Why can't people grasp how basic this is?
Records regarding offenses covered by rehabilitation are strictly confidential; they can't be shared with anyone, nor can they be used for any other purpose. If you don't believe me, why not just go read the misdemeanor laws yourself? Unfortunately, these regulations don't apply to the police, or even the USSF when it comes to the fans.
To wrap this up, let me give you a vivid example of how this actually plays out in the real world.
Imagine if the police, during the spring break season or over Christmas and New Year’s—times when everyone knows alcohol consumption and drunk driving spike—decided to implement a rule like this: any driver who has ever received a traffic citation (it doesn't matter if it was one year ago or ten) and isn't currently suspended, would be banned from driving entirely during those periods just to eliminate any risk of an accident. The police would make this call unilaterally, based on their own records of every single driver's history over the last decade or two.
They’d justify such a massive crackdown by pointing to data on property damage, injury rates, and fatalities on the road.
When you really think about it, why don't they just do it?
If these types of "blacklists" used against fans are perfectly legal, why aren't they being applied to other situations? Especially when actual lives are on the line.
So, Tonio Bilić, if you still haven't grasped the message we're sending from the stands, then just ask.
If you're going to insist on interpreting our messages, at least do it properly.
People deserve the truth, even if lies sell more newspapers.
NFL Ultras Miami
#14 ·
Hey guys, I’m curious about how things are looking with these 15-to-18-year-old groups lately. Is anyone seeing much action up north? It seemed like they had quite a presence at the last match. Honestly, my eyes nearly popped out when I was walking near the waterfront after the game—there were about sixty of them from the Strozanac area just filling up the street. I figured maybe they’d coordinated it once, but now, heading to the last game against the Istria side, it’s the exact same thing. They were putting on a total show on the bus, and I actually spotted a police cruiser trailing them, along with those Smaicev &Budesev STROZANAC banners... Can anyone give me a better idea of what’s actually going on with this lately?
#16 ·
The whole neighborhood dynamic is always the same story...
One generation might be a bit lackluster in one area, while another proves much stronger elsewhere... but you always end up with those neighborhoods where thirty people start out, and somehow only two are left standing at the end.
The East Side holds everything down.☕
One generation might be a bit lackluster in one area, while another proves much stronger elsewhere... but you always end up with those neighborhoods where thirty people start out, and somehow only two are left standing at the end.
The East Side holds everything down.☕
#18 ·
cosmicdrifter44 said:Neighborhood dynamics never change...
One generation is weak in one area, stronger in another... but there have always been neighborhoods where 30 guys start out and only 2 are left standing.
The East Side runs everything.☕
EXACTLY: "30 go in, 2 come out."
"The East Side runs everything." 🤷
#20 ·
crimsonstag35 said:EXACTLY: "They start with 30 and end up with 2."
"The East Side is carrying the whole damn thing." 🤷>
Why are you even surprised? 🤣
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