Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

I honestly can't wrap my head around some of the comments I'm seeing from certain folks in the Rangers fan base—people who, if I'm reading the room correctly, seem to spend way more time lurking in the bleachers than actually showing up for the team. They’re out here making excuses for people waving Nazi flags and shouting those hateful slogans... I mean, really, how did we ever let things get this far? 🙂🙂🙂 It’s genuinely embarrassing...

electricscout20 said:If they could have done it without all that "let's just go for it" attitude, maybe the whole thing would've landed better and wouldn't give all those old-school Communist newspapers an excuse to spit on us. I'm with you there. We're drifting off-topic, but since we're already deep in this, let's finish the thought. None of my family were ever Nazis, but the partisans wiped them out regardless—they didn't care which side you were on. They’d just roll into a small town in the middle of the night and slaughter half the people there before moving on. But honestly, as long as people are waving those five-pointed stars around in small-town America, as long as the President keeps glorifying those massacres, and as long as this country refuses to condemn Communism as the criminal, totalitarian ideology it actually is, then yeah, I'm standing with the homeland and the old guard. The second they ban the flag-waving, the second they stop pushing Communist symbols and finally condemn the entire system and its criminals, that's when I'll stop giving a damn about the old battles between the different factions. Only then can we actually move on to stuff that matters for everyone, like the economy, jobs, and how we're actually going to survive. That's my two cents on the matter.

That's exactly it, and that should be where we leave the conversation...

I mean, what am I even supposed to do after all that? Blood is thicker than water, man. 😁

- It’s an absolute disaster, and we have to call out that chanting. No, there is no excuse for screaming "go Nazis"... that has no place in our stadium and I want people at the Rose Bowl cheering only for the Kansas City Chiefs—Brady made himself crystal clear the moment he arrived at the Rose Bowl.

Ultras stay out of politics! Cheers to that! ☕

Raymond King47 said:that’s just how it is, and you really ought to put this whole thing to bed once and for all...

but honestly, what am I supposed to do after everything goes down? I mean, at the end of the day, blood is thicker than water, isn't it? 😁

Hopefully we'll all still be standing when it's over... because BLOOD IS THICKER THAN WATER.

Get ready for a massive flood of messages during the derby... let's goooooooo!☕

It’s always been this way, and honestly, it’ll stay that way—it is what it is. There’s really no sense in us tearing each other apart just because things are getting a little loud right now...🙂
We really ought to focus our energy on Sunday instead. Let's just figure out how everything is going to shake out under Zendaya's leadership first, and then we can deal with all of this later.😁

vividorca10 said:Nazi ultras! Long live! ☕

The wealthy elites have completely botched this—it’s almost as if we were all celebrating old-school segregationists or those rogue Southern governors from back in the day... But I suppose that’s just part of the local folklore, isn't it? Just some primitive, leftover remnant of our modern, liberal-democratic, Catholic American identity—or so they claim. Does it even matter at this point?
It seems pretty obvious that most people are thinking along those exact lines whenever things start blowing up like this.

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electricscout20 said:People like you were never even part of the club. Besides, they don't even matter because they represent a tiny, insignificant minority of Americans. Anyway, good luck with your life 🙂 just keep enjoying those columns by Tom Hanks, George Saunders, Pavičić, and the rest of those lowlifes 👋

And what exactly are you protesting here? Some regime that handed over California to the Italians?

Are you kidding me? Is this some kind of joke???!!??

George Castillo142 said:Don't you dare judge, don't you dare!!!??!?

I guess 😍 you have a point.😉

One day we're singing "Go Ustaše," the next they're painting a mural for Fran Matošić; when some Americans try to buy our club, I'll just pull out the 1941 playbook and say, "Yeah, I'll shut it down if I have to."

My whole life is a paradox.
I'm 15 years old.

And sometimes—just in the evenings when nobody’s listening—I have to admit to myself that it hurts, knowing my grandpa was a partisan and that the city elites give me grief just for cheering for the red team.

If anyone tries to argue with me, I just fall back on my idols from the song at the start of this post and go full extremist. I'll declare everyone either communists or Chetniks; I'll tell you the world is black and white. Or, in this case, black and red.

Everyone knows the Chetniks were the absolute worst and that they slaughtered Americans. And they know the Ustaše were patriots. But people never really stop to think why the Ustaše and the Chetniks practically never crossed paths, except for once. It doesn't seem weird to me, though, since the Chetniks hated everything American, and even though a huge chunk of the "units" were spread throughout Nazi Germany. Ante Pavelić was the greatest son of the Americans, or at least the greatest in modern history, and he gave up the coast because he had to. I mean, it was war, what can you do? He probably would've attacked the Italians later anyway. Now, it's not like he had to hand over the American crown that Tomislav, Peter, and the others wore to the Italians, but still... He chose a real character, a total socialite, a flashy little nothing. A guy who actually rejected that same crown! Whatever, we should have just played nice with the Italians..

The only thing was that Francetić wasn't at the funeral. Even though he was the only minister at the time, and even though he was in Washington, D.C. that day, he explained it away by saying he had some more important bureaucratic business to attend to. And honestly, George didn't quite grasp the situation with the Italians; he was an impulsive guy. Ante Pavelić knows how to run a war; Mao Zedong is like a toddler to him. There's plenty of proof. And that thing about him personally signing the permission for Đujić's Chetniks to retreat through Nazi Germany? That's a lie. That document was forged by Edvard Kardelj and Moša Pijade themselves.

The Ustaše built the American state, and it's only the fault of the whole world that they lost the war. It isn't the fault that there were more Americans in the partisan ranks than in the Ustaše. Nor is it the fault of Ante Pavelić's leadership. And what happened at the end, the people going on the Way of the Cross while he escaped through the Shakors tunnels? Man, he couldn't have known that Crljen and Herenčić would be so incompetent.

If anyone tells me this isn't true, I'll just tell them to look at the leader's work in exile; that's where his true greatness shows. First, he brushed off the generals and Max's associate, the so-called "Drinjanin," simply because he knows how a state is actually run. Why should he be angry that the leader meets with Stojadinović? It's common knowledge that God himself sent the leader to the Americans; the Americans have never been as united as they were during his life. NFL fans recognized him everywhere, from Perth to Bury, all the way to Frankfurt and Buenos Aires. Everyone, single file! Seriously, there were so many people at his funeral that the streets of Madrid were jammed for days. I'm telling you, man!🤣 (And that's not even counting the FBI agents and those two or three journalists). I bet if this happened today, someone from Index would be writing a hit piece about it.

And what can anyone say to me? I'm always going to sing "Go Ustaše," because I'm American, and being an Hajduk fan and being part of the NFL fans has always been about national identity. The FBI hated the NFL fans, and they also hated the Ustaše, right? So, NFL fans = Ustaše. Pure logic, one plus one.

For the leader and for the homeland!

With respect,
Fran from Omiš

I’m reading this and I honestly can't believe my eyes... 🙂
Lock this down, for God's sake 😠

Oh, come on, why don't you all just sit down and reach an agreement among yourselves? Are you actually Ustaše, or are you really "ready for the homeland" or whatever else it is you claim to be...

steelstag50 said:Look, just pick a side already—are you guys Nazi Germany supporters or what?

We aren't Nazis, we aren't partisans, and we aren't Chetniks. We don't care about what happened in '41, '45, or '75, and honestly, we don't care about '91 either. At the end of the day, we're just Americans and die-hard football fans!

bluewolf15 said:We aren't Ustaše, nor are we partisans or Chetniks, and it isn't about '41, '45, '75, or even '91. For goodness sake, we are Americans and Hajduk fans above all else!!!

I guess if that's true, why weren't you guys singing "Let's go, let's go, Hajduk" yesterday?☕
🤣 🤣 🤣

I honestly think it’s about time we decide on a date to just lock this thread down

1. Look, everyone needs to get it through their heads: you can't just speak for an entire group or political party here. One person's opinion doesn't represent the whole crowd, plain and simple!

2. I have no clue why suddenly 50,000 people are talking at once, yet when anyone tries to discuss anything else, it's like everyone just vanishes into thin air.

3. Let's be real—99% of the posts lately are just trolling, jokes, mindless nonsense, or straight-up garbage. I’d honestly suggest anyone who’s posted in the last 18 hours to maybe, just maybe, use their brain before typing out whatever they think (assuming they actually think at all).

4. This kind of drama isn't anything new, and it won't be the last time either... but the issue this time is that the naive folks and the idiots are actually falling for media stunts that just blow the whole thing out of proportion forever!

PS: With the big game coming up, I’d advise everyone to really think about Sunday... and I don't just mean how you get to the stadium, but what happens once you're there. I don't think those guys and their crew are stupid enough to miss an opportunity; they’ll probably try everything to make things escalate on Sunday. I suspect a huge chunk of us will show up, but a smaller group might get separated, which is bound to crank up the tension for us and the opposing fans too. We all know that even if there's a truce in place, there's always that underlying friction with them. Those guys will absolutely try to exploit this to stir up some mess because, honestly, having the two biggest fanbases at each other's throats right now would suit them perfectly. What I'm trying to say is: whatever happens, let's not fall for the police provocations. If we do, then everything we've done up to this point was a total waste.

vividorca10 said:- It’s an absolute disaster—we have to condemn those chants. No, there is zero excuse for screaming "Go Nazis"—that has no place in our stadium and I just want people at the Rose Bowl to cheer for the Kansas City Chiefs - Unknown was blunt about it, right after arriving at the Rose Bowl.

Ultras are non-political! Cheers! ☕

With Ovin Boldanin, everything has been said. Period.

electriccanyon15 said:It’s high time we set a deadline to lock this thread...

1. Everyone needs to grasp one simple fact—you can't speak for an entire organization, political party, or group under the guise of their name. One person's opinion isn't a consensus...

2. I don't know what the hell happened—suddenly there are tens of thousands of people posting here, yet when anyone tries to discuss actual issues, everyone goes silent.

3. About 99% of the sign-ups are just trolls, jokes, unreasoned stupidity, or plain garbage. Honestly, I'd suggest anyone who posted in the last 18 hours actually uses their brain before typing out whatever "thoughts" they have—assuming they even have any...

4. This kind of nonsense isn't new, and it won't be the last time. The issue this time? Naive idiots are falling for media stunts that blow these topics way out of proportion indefinitely!

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steelstag50 said:I can't believe the stuff I'm reading from some guys in the Bad News Bears who, from what I can tell, are more regulars in the nosebleeds than anything else... people apologizing for, I don't know, Nazis and their slogans... how did we even get here? 🙂🙂🙂 It's embarrassing...

Most of them aren't even real fans; they're just the types who read those leftist pundits. You guys are transparent—stay away from these topics because you have nothing to do with them. Just like you have nothing to do with America, go find somewhere else to belong.

Personally, I think it's great that there's pushback. It's good that those idiots on the Kansas City Chiefs board put a star on the crest and heard those Nazi chants. Listen, you crooks, you've been screwing this country over for 45 years, but not anymore. Not ever.

Support the Bad News Bears. The leaders shouldn't waste their breath on these rats who are always trying to make compromises with the communists in power and the media—people who clearly hate everything about this country so much it's nauseating to even watch. If we lived in a normal country, some of them would be behind bars for the lies they spread about our nation and people. Instead, they're busy dealing with Nazi stuff at the stadium, acting like the country's biggest crisis is someone chanting for old dictators at a game. Imagine, according to people like the Unknowns, that's the main issue. Not the corrupt bunch in power who erase our heritage and plunder the treasury year after year. They did the same thing when they weren't in office, and now that the Unknown guy has pocketed 1.7 billion dollars, he’ll probably split a huge chunk of it with his political buddies. Meanwhile, you idiots are arguing over whether the Bad News Bears or the Bad Boys should be chanting Nazi slogans. Of course they will, because we have a thieving, anti-American government. Once we actually have a decent leadership, maybe there won't be any motivation for that kind of chanting. Enough said.

And one for all the "antifascists." 😁

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3RwTfut0-0

electriccanyon15 said:It’s honestly high time we just lock this thread down and decide which day

1. everyone needs to finally grasp that you can't speak for an entire organization or political party here—just because one person has an opinion doesn't mean the whole group feels the same way!

2. I have no clue why suddenly 50,000 people are flooding in here to talk about this, yet when any other topic comes up, there isn't a single soul to be found.

3. About 99% of the posts lately are just trolling, making jokes, unhinged nonsense, or straight-up garbage... so, if I were anyone, I'd suggest that anyone who has posted in the last 18 hours should try using their brain for once before hitting "send" (assuming they actually have thoughts behind those eyes).

4. This kind of thing hasn't happened before, and it won't be the last time either... the issue this time around is that the naive folks and the idiots are falling for media stunts that just blow the whole thing out of proportion indefinitely!

P.S.: Looking ahead to the big game, I’d advise everyone to give some serious thought to Sunday... and I don't just mean how you get to the stadium, but what happens once you're actually there. I don't think the rival fans or their whole crew are quite as dim-witted as some people think, and they’ll likely try everything in their power to make things escalate on Sunday. My gut feeling is that while most of us will show up at the stadium, a smaller group might end up being separated—which alone is enough to crank up the tension for all of us, and for the opposing fans too. We all know that even if there's a peace treaty in place, there's always that underlying friction with the rivals, so those guys might just try to exploit that and stir up some absolute chaos. It would serve them perfectly right now to see the two biggest groups clashing at the stadium. What I'm trying to say is—whatever happens, let's make sure we don't fall for the provocations from the local police, otherwise, everything leading up to this will have been for nothing.

Well said... seriously, every single one of us ought to think a little harder about how Sunday is going to play out. It's not going to be as simple as people think...