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Judelin and insulting believers

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Participants Dennis Davis5slycrane94Maria Reyes4Nicholas KingMichelle Alvarez8redorca13James Patel20Sophia Vaughn2Lisa Chase68coppersailor28Brian Rodriguez78dustyranger64rustyharbor3Timothy Davis59Michelle Evansrustydrifter10
coppersailor28 coppersailor28 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#21 ·
Lisa Chase68 said:...so maybe we should just wait for the admins to weigh in?

On some other forum, I might actually agree with waiting on the admins. Not here. This place would first need to conduct a study titled "Are N&CS even smarter than the believers?"
slycrane94 slycrane94 Active Member
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joined Dec 2002
#22 ·
Dennis Davis5 said:So, I got slapped with a week-long ban for "hate speech." All because some guy attacked me on the forum and my only response was "Play the game, not the player." Is that really where we're at now? 🙂

Maybe that’s why they say "blame The gama, not the player"?
Brian Rodriguez78 Brian Rodriguez78 Newcomer
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#23 ·
slycrane94 said:http://psr.sagepub.com/content/early...88868313497266

Exactly...

Just another embarrassment for the moderation team. Honestly, how many people are even running this place? You’ve got a moderator who spends their time trolling and a "scientist" busy planting logical fallacies everywhere... where are the admins hiding now? Are they going to try and justify this mess too?...
Lisa Chase68 Lisa Chase68 Member
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#24 ·
slycrane94 said:Science and religion split ways a long time ago—and honestly, that’s probably why we’ve made as much progress as we have. It all comes down to looking at how the actual world works instead of just blindly following some vague concept of "God"—and by God, I just mean the linguistic label people use to keep faith from getting too messy.

The big difference? Religion is built on blind faith, whereas science is all about being okay with changing your mind when new data or observations come along.

So, one side is stuck in its own narrative while the other is constantly adapting to reality.

Since you can totally be a scientist and still hold religious beliefs—and we definitely know plenty of researchers who are religious—it’s pretty clear they don't have to be mutually exclusive. In fact, suggesting that you can't be both feels kind of stupid, if you ask me... or maybe just a little malicious.
Lisa Chase68 Lisa Chase68 Member
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#25 ·
Brian Rodriguez78 said:Another massive fail on the moderation front. Honestly, how many of you guys even run this place? And you’re supposed to be some kind of scientist? A moderator who trolls AND a scientist who’s out here planting logical fallacies... seriously? Where are the admins hiding now? Are they gonna try to justify this mess too?

So, I went back and scrolled through his other comments—it’s pretty obvious this guy might just be "obsessed" with everyone else's religious views. It feels like he has this huge grudge against religious people or faith in general. You know, it's a classic thing—people who get way too deep into the occult tend to act exactly like this.
Brian Rodriguez78 Brian Rodriguez78 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2013
#26 ·
slycrane94 said:I don't need to believe in anything. Science is what pulled us out of the caves, while religion just spends its time trying to shove us back in... those with any sense can see that.

Science didn't exactly drag us out of the caves, but I am curious about how exactly religion plans on dragging us back in...
redorca13 redorca13 Member
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#27 ·
slycrane94 said:Science split from religion a long time ago, and honestly, that’s exactly why we’ve made the progress we have. The whole point is looking at how the actual world functions instead of just blindly believing in whatever—and by "God," I just mean a linguistic construct used to force faith on people.

The core of religion is blind faith, whereas the core of science is knowing that new experimental data or observations can completely flip your theories and opinions on their head.

So, one group is stuck in its own myths while the other adapts to reality.

Your post just proves you don't have the slightest clue what religion actually means.
Some of the greatest scientists in history were deeply religious believers.

If you want to talk about something adapting to reality, look at the Church. 🙂
If you believe in anything at all—even science—then you're being religious, but I really don't feel like giving you a lecture on religiosity right now.

Either way, there's no need to judge or belittle others just because they see things differently. What kind of harm are they actually doing to you?
Lisa Chase68 Lisa Chase68 Member
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#28 ·
redorca13 said:Honestly, your post just shows you don't really get what religion even means.
Most of the world's top scientists are religious people—they're believers too.

If anything actually adapts to reality, it’s the Church. 🙂
I mean, if you believe in anything at all—even science—you've got a religious side to you, but I'm really not in the mood to give you a whole lecture on spirituality right now.

Anyway, it's not cool to judge or look down on people just because they're different. What kind of harm are they actually doing to you?

It's not that you have issues with anyone being different—it's clearly just the church and believers that bother you.
dustyranger64 dustyranger64 Active Member
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#29 ·
Dennis Davis5 said:Someone just compared believers to uneducated people and mocked the Virgin Mary. I’m asking that this be sanctioned as hate speech.

Hate speech? Insults? Seriously?
ERM, nah.

redorca13 said:Man, this post of yours just proves you haven't got a clue what religion actually is or what it means.
Honestly? Most of the greatest scientists out there? They’re religious people. Total believers. Just how I see it!

Just because someone spits a lie out like it's gospel doesn't make it true. Simple as that!

If you believe in anything at all—even science—you’re religious. Period. But honestly? I really don't have the energy to give you a whole lecture on spirituality right now!

Honestly, skip the lecture. If you don't get that science is basically just faith, then there's really no point in continuing.
slycrane94 slycrane94 Active Member
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#30 ·
Lisa Chase68 said:Since scientists can also be people of faith—and we know plenty of researchers who are religious—it stands to reason that one doesn't necessarily negate the other. Honestly, suggesting they are mutually exclusive feels a bit naive, if not outright malicious.

Those scientists are still following the scientific method, not religious dogma. There’s a distinction there.
rustyharbor3 rustyharbor3 Newcomer
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#31 ·
Ugh... honestly, I thought this whole thread was supposed to be about Judino's communication style—so why on earth has everyone suddenly pivoted into some intense religious debate? It’s completely lost the plot. And let’s be real: even on other topics, that guy doesn't hold back when it comes to being insulting; he’s incredibly aggressive and just plain rude. I’ve reported his posts several times now, yet not once have I seen any actual disciplinary action taken against him. Why is that?
Timothy Davis59 Timothy Davis59 Member
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joined May 2013
#32 ·
rustyharbor3 said:Um.. I thought this thread was about how judolino communicates, why are we pivoting to a religious debate now? He’s aggressive and rude on other threads too, constantly insulting people. I’ve reported his posts several times, but nothing ever happens. Why?

Because they just let him get away with it. Ask Uncle Stril why judolino acts like such a jerk. That guy doesn't have the basic decency required to participate in a discussion here like everyone else...
Michelle Evans Michelle Evans Regular
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joined Jan 2013
#33 ·
Lisa Chase68 said:...so maybe we should let the admins weigh in first?

Agreed.
I'll lock this thread until then...
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
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joined Apr 2011
#34 ·
Dennis Davis5 said:The guy basically compared believers to people who can't read and made jokes at the expense of the Virgin Mary. I really think this should be flagged as hate speech.

Honestly, looking through the posts linked here, I just don't see any hate speech at all.

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