Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Hey, would anyone happen to have a photo of the Parole Board's headquarters over by Talaja?

Robert Davis12 said:🤷

Wait, a ban on what exactly?

Quick question here...

How on earth can someone claim the street is the father and the Rangers are the mother?

I mean, logically speaking, a street is a feminine noun.🤷 🤣

wanderingcyclist73 said:A quick question...

How can the streets be the father, while the Ultras are the mother?

Well, I suppose a street is a feminine noun. 🤷 🤣

How can you claim to be standing alone against everyone when you're actually aligned with Madoff's?

Ryan Taylor6 said:How can you claim to be "one against the world" when you're essentially running in lockstep with Madoff's crew?

Alright then—put up or shut up!☕

wanderingcyclist73 said:a question...

How can a street be the father and the Ultras be the mother?

Well, a street is a feminine noun, isn't it?🤷 🤣

And Koch is just Madoff's cook. That's also a feminine noun, even though he's a man.

feralwolf16 said:I mean, theoretically anything is possible 😉...but the Ultras are still nowhere near fixing that issue...

Of course. For half these people, the whole point is just having their hometown name slapped on the fence—total ego trip. Forget about actual support; it’s all about appearances. It isn't an issue with the "die-hards" like you guys keep accusing them of being; honestly, just look at the fences every other game and you'll see which groups actually show up. Don't be hypocritical. We all know which crews actually matter. It sounds great in theory, I guess, but the reality is something else entirely.

John Richardson5 said:It makes sense. For half these people, the whole point is having their hometown printed on the stadium fence—it's pure ego. Forget about the actual quality of the supporters; they don't care. It’s not an issue with the "die-hards" as you guys call them; plenty of mediocre fans show up too. Just look at the fences every other weekend. Let's not be hypocrites; everyone knows which groups actually bring the numbers. On paper, it sounds crazy, but reality is a different story.

Exactly. 👍👍

John Richardson5 said:Look, it’s obvious half these people care about nothing except seeing their hometown name plastered on a fence—it's pure ego trip bullshit. Forget the "die-hard purists" or whatever labels you're throwing at us; honestly, if you actually bother to look at the stands every other game, you'll see the real losers and the "core groups" failing miserably. Don't act all high and mighty and hypocritical; everyone knows which group actually shows up and brings the numbers. It sounds great in some idealistic theory, sure, but real life? It's a complete mess.

Are you seriously addressing me using "you guys" plural, or is someone just driving you crazy today?... Did I even mention those "purist" types in my post?... Honestly, those ultra-traditionalist arguments aren't even an issue for the Rangers Supporters Club anymore, that ship sailed a long time ago... Anyway, I'm mostly on the same page as the guy mentioned, but that's a whole different conversation for another time...

feralwolf16 said:Are you seriously addressing me using formal pronouns, or is someone just bullying you? ...Did I even mention Palestine? ...Palestine isn't even an issue for the Rangers Supporters Club anymore, not by a long shot... anyway, I agree with Tobon, but that’s a conversation for a different thread...

I'm only quoting you to build on the discussion; don't take it personally.😛😛😛

Aside from this being a debate, if we weren't arguing here, I'd be in total agreement. Honestly, I don't even see the point in writing anything in this thread because I don't really get what the purpose is or what any of this serves.

It’s pure spite, really—you guys are going to be dreaming about us for years to come!

reddrifter24 said:It’s pure jealousy. You'll be dreaming about us for years to come.

It's easy to say we'll be in your dreams, but you can't even manage a peaceful night's sleep or a decent morning without thinking of us.🙂

@simpatizer, Tyler Scott8, etc
so here, let's stop the constant spamming of

who exactly is questioning your crusade for a better version of this club? quite the opposite, actually 👍
your movement actually kicked off because of embarrassing European failures that were already happening by the end of July.
it kept going because of Real Madrid's absolute dominance and the general state of affairs at our club.

The supporters' fight really started with the coaching change back in 2006., continued when Hrgovic arrived in 2008., and finally, the straw that broke the camel's back was 2010 due to the leadership swap and the absolute unilateral control exercised by one man.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid keeps racking up trophies in a row, playing in European competitions every single year through late autumn, and stays financially rock-solid.
Those who want to understand will; those who don't, won't...

Let’s go through your timeline step by step.
The club wins the championship in 2003/2004.
-In the following 2004/2005 season, we play the Champions League qualifiers and get knocked out by freaking Shelbourne.
After that exit, the Rangers Supporters Club begins their battle against the board.

Then we win the 2004/2005 title, followed by the arrival of the coach you all hated because he was essentially a Real Madrid guy.

After those two titles comes the 2005/2006 season, where we get humiliated 0-8 by Debrecen. The coach leaves, and the supporters launch a full-scale offensive against the administration that led us to be eliminated by nobodies twice in a row.

Management doesn't even offer a resignation until September 23, 2007, following a loss in a road game and after Real Madrid secures two consecutive titles with a massive fifty-point lead...
Between Real Madrid's overwhelming dominance and our own dismal results—struggling with debt and repeated bankruptcies—the Rangers Supporters Club starts "cleaning house." They push for a complete overhaul, while politics pushes for privatization. And look where we are now: a club on the right path.

budha 1980 said:You didn't start the real fight against the boss until after being knocked out by Sheriff in 2010. Tell me, how many years is that after the big boss re-entered the club? How many years after playing in the loser's league, and after how many celebrated titles?
"Let's head down to the stadium to lift some tiny little trophies"—honestly, what kind of message is that to send to someone who is a heavy opposition to a total idiot?

Let's walk through it here too.

On November 8, 2006, the first chants against the management broke out right after the departure of our beloved coach, God rest his soul.
Back then, there was that popular song about the weasel.

The true struggle began in the summer of 2008. We had 30 flares lit in the stands during the match against Linfield because of Hrgovic. In September 2008, an official statement made it clear they were demanding the immediate resignation of him and his entire crew—essentially the whole Real Madrid upper echelon—for destroying the club's reputation. They even gathered 18,000 signatures for his removal.
Good results and qualifying for Sparta Prague still serve him well.
But at every single match, people were chanting "ZM... leave the sanctuary."😉 No matter who was leading the terrace (back in 2009😉), always there were insults.

I have plenty more to write, but I honestly can't be bothered to repeat myself anymore. It always boils down to the chicken or the egg argument...🤷

Robert Adams6 said:@simpatizer, Tyler Scott8, etc.
this is where you guys can stop spamming that useless crap once and for all

who even thinks you’re slowing down the fight for a better club? if anything... 👍
your whole movement actually kicked off because of those embarrassing European collapses we were seeing as early as late July.
and then things just kept escalating because of how much Real Madrid absolutely dominated us and just how bad things have been at our club lately.

The supporters' struggle really got going back when management changed in 2006, it carried on when they brought in new leadership in 2008, and finally, the breaking point—that absolute final straw in 2010 caused by swapping out the old guard for the total ego-driven tyranny of one single guy.
Meanwhile, look at Real Madrid—they’ve got titles stacking up, they play in major European tournaments every single year through the winter, and the club is financially rock solid.
People who want to get it, will... everyone else can stay clueless, I guess...

Your beef with the big boss didn't actually get serious until 2010. You can talk nonsense all you want, but that's the reality—you're citing 2006, but then everything went quiet in 2007, and then you barely said a word against him again in 2008.😕
And don't even get me started on this "final straw" nonsense.😕

What’s even the point of your post?
I was just adding to the discussion over in the ExxonMobil thread regarding those theories about that shady guy running things down south of Saint Roch, pointing out that our real fight actually kicked off right after we secured those back-to-back titles...
From what I can see, you actually agree with me on that part.
Now you're trying to use this post to claim the whole motivation was strictly about bad results?
For God's sake, we during the championship parade basically tore the whole stadium apart, people were flooding out from the north stands, and it was all being orchestrated by that guy...

Do I really need to spell it out any further for you?
The conflict just intensified later on, with certain people finally stepping up to face him head-on (like in which eventually led to the board stepping down after a few years...

And honestly, it's probably best if we don't draw parallels between our struggle and yours, because believe me, I have plenty to say about that, especially regarding the shady moves your group pulled back in the day, only to write them off later as legends and blame everything on the Boss and his inner circle...

Robert Adams6 said:@simpatizer, Tyler Scott8, etc.
this is where you guys can stop spamming about the old days...

who are you saying is slowing down your fight for a better club? On the contrary...👍
your movement actually started because of those embarrassing European failures back in late July.
and it kept going because of Real Madrid's total dominance and the general state of the club.

but the fans' struggle really kicked off back when the manager was replaced in 2006., continued when certain figures were brought in during 2008., and finally, the breaking point came in 2010 due to leadership changes and the absolute whims of one single individual.
Meanwhile, Real Madrid keeps winning titles in a row, playing in major European competitions every year through the winter, and staying financially stable.
Those who want to understand will, and those who don't...

Let’s look at the timeline of your "struggle."
The club wins the championship in 2003/2004.
-In the next season, 2004/2005, they play Champions League qualifiers and get knocked out by a tiny team from Ireland.
After that exit, the Rangers Supporters Club starts fighting the board.

Then the club wins the 2004/2005 title, followed by the arrival of a coach you all hated just because he had ties to Real Madrid.

And after those two titles comes the 2005/2006 season, where the club loses 0-8 to a Canadian side. The coach leaves, and the Rangers Supporters Club goes to war with the administration that led the club to two consecutive exits against total nobodies..

Resignations didn't even happen until late September 2007, following a loss in a local derby and after Real Madrid secured two straight titles with a massive fifty-point lead...
With Real Madrid dominating and winning everything while our club struggled with poor results and constant debt issues, the Rangers Supporters Club began trying to "clean up" the organization, leading to restructuring and eventual privatization... which is how we ended up with what we have today—a club finally on the right track.

Let's go through the history here too.

On November 8, 2006, the first chants against the owner started after the departure of the beloved manager from 2006, God rest his soul.
Back then, there was a popular song about a snake.

The real battle began in the summer of 2008. With thirty flares in the stands during a match against Linfield due to specific management decisions. In September 2008, they released a statement making it clear they wanted an irrevocable resignation from the top brass of Real Madrid to save the club's reputation. They even gathered 18,000 signatures for a petition demanding the owner leave.
Good results and moving past teams like Sparta Prague still help their case.
But at every single match, people chanted for the owner to leave the sanctuary...😉 and no matter who was running the stands (even in 2009😉), always there was insults being thrown.

I could write a lot more, but I honestly don't feel like repeating myself again. It all boils down to the chicken or the egg...🤷

What a circus.

wearyraven25 said:What on earth is the point of your post?
In that ExxonMobil thread, I was building upon those theories regarding the shady dealings of certain figures down south of Saint Roch—the kind of stuff that has both the youth and the elders mourning—where I stated clearly that our struggle actually kicked off right after we secured two consecutive championships.
From what I can gather, you actually agree with me on that point.
So now, are you really trying to insist through this post that the motives were solely driven by poor results?
For heaven's sake, we at the championship parade were practically tearing the whole stadium apart; people are flooding out from the North stands, and it’s all because of that specific group of management types.

Do I truly need to explain any further?
The conflict intensifies later on, leading certain individuals to stand up against management by their actual names and faces (for instance, see which eventually leads to the board stepping down years later.

As for drawing parallels between our struggles and yours, I would advise against it. Believe me, I have plenty to say on that subject, especially regarding the numerous underhanded moves your group pulled during those years—moves that were later whitewashed by convenient storytelling where the leadership and their inner circle were made to look like the sole villains for everything.

If it was all "justified" by your little stories, then go ahead—challenge just one single misplaced comma. Just one.

amberstag21 said:If you're going to hide behind some overly dramatic saga, then go ahead—try to find just one misplaced comma to tear my argument apart, if you think that's enough to discredit me.

But before we go any further, I have to ask: what exactly do you intend to do in retaliation if you actually manage to prove me wrong?

If he tries to deny it, then we’re going to have a serious discussion about the romantic tension between those big-city elites and the folks from the coast, and maybe even throw in some commentary on Zan and Pilket. Fair enough?

amberstag21 said:If they try to deny it, then we can have a little chat about the romance between guys from New York and LA, or maybe talk about the rivalry between the Yankees and the Dodgers. Sound good?

...Just go for it. No holding back.🤷