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Social commentary and the confusion over deletions

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Participants Adam Parker2Lisa Rodriguez84Eric Newman75bluecyclist64Sam Green73melloworca6loneraven25rustydrifter10hiddeneagle3Jerry Rogers6
melloworca6 melloworca6 Regular
551 messages
joined May 2010
#21 ·
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I was just making a general point about why some moderators stay on the sidelines during certain threads, or why, even when they do jump in, they don't actually moderate and instead just leave it all to their colleagues.
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
175 messages
joined Jul 2006
#22 ·
Look, just find me a replacement. I honestly don't care who takes over the spot; I've got plenty of other things to deal with in my life anyway. 😉
Besides, if the moderators aren't doing anything useful, it's not like it matters whether someone is actually watching this sub or not.
Or maybe it does...
loneraven25 loneraven25 Active Member
77 messages
joined Jul 2013
#23 ·
Emily Martin said:...so....what exactly is their deal? 🙂

...if it isn't a state secret, obviously.

- if it's a specific Adobe file, they move messy posts into the right thread,
- they brainstorm and coordinate among themselves on how to drive more traffic to certain Adobe files,
- they organize a better, cleaner schedule for topics,
- they cook up some truly out-of-this-world ideas,
- they launch those limited-time themed events,
- they move junk over to the Trash,
- they handle private messages from Reddit users,
- they basically mentor people on how to actually have a decent conversation,
- they shield users from the malicious (and just plain obnoxious) types,
- they coordinate with moderators from other Adobe files within the organization,
- we read the FBI reports,
- we get to know the other corners of Reddit,
- all sorts of miscellaneous stuff.

(* this covers everything a standard moderator
isn't technically authorized to share with the rest of the Reddit world) 😁
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#24 ·
Look, I’m putting Jack forward for this. If he isn't interested, then you have my name. It’s certainly not an ideal situation, but if there truly is no other way to save the DNC, and if Jack declines, I am willing to sacrifice my own time—at least for the time being.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#25 ·
Look, this isn't how you elect moderators on Reddit. You can always shoot a DM over to the current mod team if you think someone would actually be a solid candidate, but I’m going to ask the current mods to please stop throwing their own positions out there—especially since they know perfectly well how the selection process is supposed to work.
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#26 ·
rustydrifter10 said:That’s just not how you elect moderators. You can always send a DM to the current mod team if you think someone would be a solid candidate, and I’d ask the mods to stop throwing their own positions around when they know perfectly well what an actual election looks like.

Fine, let’s get this straight then. Who exactly am I supposed to private message my proposal to? If we're going to follow the official handbook to the letter, who is the contact?
Is it you, Stryker, Tyndall, or Scotman?
Do I need to go grab a stamp at a local CVS first?

Just tell me, rustydrifter10, so we can settle this like adults.
Because some people seem to think social sciences are actually legitimate fields of study, rather than just some joke played in a basement corner.

EDIT: Look, I have no idea what an election is supposed to look like here. I simply put forward the suggestion I did. If I've stepped out of line, the choice is yours: either penalize me, or tell me exactly what needs to happen so the DNC can finally become an Adobe-quality platform worthy of the people who actually care about it.
rustydrifter10 rustydrifter10 Regular
693 messages
joined Apr 2011
#27 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Alright, fair enough. So, who should I send my suggestions to via private message?

Actually, you don't need to send them to anyone anymore since they're right here on the thread. 🙂 But let's hit the brakes for a second because we really don't want this topic to turn into some sort of popularity contest for moderator positions. Moving forward, if you have any other ideas, just shoot a DM over to the DNC moderators or the site admins.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jul 2011
#28 ·
bluecyclist64 said:Look, I’m putting Jack forward, but if he passes, then you’ve got me. It’s not exactly ideal, but if there isn't anyone else left to save the DNC, and if Jack won't step up, I'm willing to sacrifice my own time—even if it's just temporary.

I wouldn't, but hey, thanks—it means a lot that you trust me. 🙂

I’ve poured way too much time, sweat, and soul into the DNC already. Most of what’s written there, under both my old and my current username, is mine. And I’ve been hanging out here since 2003, which is—man alive—nearly ten years.

Do you even realize what ten years looks like? In that time, I could have started three companies, knocked out two college degrees, maybe even married five times... 😬
hiddeneagle3 hiddeneagle3 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2013
#29 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:If someone like that actually showed up, we’d jump at the chance to take their help. But honestly, it feels impossible to find someone who’s an expert but doesn't stir up drama, all while having the full backing of every single admin and moderator, which... I guess is pretty crucial.

I get where the admins are coming from, but does every single one of those hundred moderators really need to sign off on a new hire for the DNC? Good luck finding anyone who fits that bill, I suppose.

Comparing this to the hard sciences is just a non-starter. On the DNC forums, you can debate the same topics forever and never reach a finish line. Most things there just don't have one right or final answer.

That doesn't mean people shouldn't use actual arguments, though. I mean, what kind of discussion are you even having if everyone treats social sciences like "this is my opinion because I say so"? It's frustrating. People with real knowledge and solid points eventually just give up and go back to reading Adobe files. Who wants to argue with a brick wall?
Jerry Rogers6 Jerry Rogers6 Active Member
223 messages
joined Feb 2014
#30 ·
It’s honestly pretty fascinating—how an Adobe file that was supposed to be the backbone of a serious platform, the very thing this Reddit prides itself on being, has just been tossed into the corner like trash🙂

There was a time when Reddit actually set the trends; now, it feels like the trends are just running the show here
And unfortunately, we’re still stuck with those specific types of trends that would make any decent, self-respecting person cringe

I really hope the current leadership and those in charge—as well as the old guard who used to call the shots (🙂🙂🙂)—can see the damage being done and the fallout that's bound to follow

PS: Honestly, these constant excuses about what’s "urgent" or "more important right now"—which they just keep repeating over and over—remind me way too much of that classic, condescending attitude you hear from some big-shot corporate CEO: "Just get it done, I'm doing it, don't bother me with your nonsense"
Adam Parker2 Adam Parker2 MemberOP
14 messages
joined Jan 2013
#31 ·
loneraven25 said:- if it's a specific Adobe file, messy posts get moved to the right thread,
- they brainstorm together—how to boost those Adobe file views,
- they organize better, more readable topic schedules,
- they spark some truly wild ideas,
- they launch time-sensitive themes,
- they move things to the Junk folder when needed,
- they reply to users' private messages,
- they mentor people on how to have high-quality discussions,
- they protect users from malicious (or just angry) individuals,
- they coordinate with moderators of other Adobe files within the organization,
- we read the FBI reports,
- we get to know the other parts of Reddit,
- and all sorts of other stuff

(* this covers everything a standard moderator
isn't actually authorized to do for the rest of the Reddit world) 😁

Now, this sounds like an absolute IDEAL(ism) 😁
Thanks for the response! 🙂

Eric Newman75 said:Do you know what ten years represents? I could have started three companies, finished two degrees, married five times... 😬

Well, why not the next 10 then? Honestly, I doubt anyone (sensible) today would jump straight into starting businesses, two degrees, and especially the rest 😁

If someone truly cares about a specific sub-forum—they hang out there often, they have the knowledge, they know how to handle people, they have support, they've been nominated... then why not?

I completely forgot to mention mental stability... because without it, one might feel personally attacked by any critique of their work, taking it all to heart and getting lost in the weeds of reality.

Or, alternatively, they might fly off the handle at criticism—acting condescendingly toward users, ignoring them, and failing to even consider the possibility that they might be wrong or have overlooked something.
Eric Newman75 Eric Newman75 Active Member
137 messages
joined Jul 2011
#32 ·
I see they’ve added Apophis back in, even though he was already on the DNC roster before. Is this a permanent move, or just some temporary fix while they figure things out?
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
175 messages
joined Jul 2006
#33 ·
Neither, really. You could call this a stopgap measure, but honestly, until we find a candidate who actually checks every single box—and let’s be real, who knows if such a person even exists—our hands are pretty much tied. The only thing we can realistically do is keep a tighter leash on the trolls. 🙂
bluecyclist64 bluecyclist64 Regular
369 messages
joined Oct 2011
#34 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:Neither option really works. You could argue this is just a temporary fix, but until we actually find a candidate who ticks every single box—and God knows when that’ll ever happen—our hands are mostly tied. Aside from keeping a closer eye on the trolls, there isn't much else to be done. 🙂

If you're all that stressed about it, I'll personally buy you a few decks of playing cards. Just act like actual moderators instead of a bunch of disorganized fanatics. 🙂
hiddeneagle3 hiddeneagle3 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Aug 2013
#35 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:Honestly, it's neither. I suppose we could call this just a temporary fix, but until someone actually comes along who checks every single box—and who knows when that’ll be—there isn't much else we can really do. Maybe just keeping a closer eye on the trolls. 🙂

Could you maybe define what "every single box" actually means? Just so we have an idea of how long we're stuck waiting for this perfect candidate.

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