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Jonathan Smith12 Jonathan Smith12 Active Member
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#21 ·
To really lead the cheering up in the North stands, you don't need some loudmouth gang leader; what you actually need is a conductor.
Honestly, you only find this many people without even a shred of musical rhythm sitting in the North section of the Rose Bowl.
It’s like you guys can’t even sing a simple anthem without messing it up—hurry it up, please! It was a textbook example of how things went sideways last night.

When you start singing a song, if you go too slow, none of the lyrics are ever going to land. You can realistically belt out one song for maybe ten or fifteen minutes, but in those same fifteen minutes, the North section tries to churn through fifteen different songs. Who on earth is supposed to sing every single one? Even a professional vocalist couldn't keep up with that madness.

And the craziest part is that now the fans in the other sections have started making jokes because they already know exactly which minute every song is coming—regardless of what’s happening on the field! It’s almost like we just need a female announcer to introduce them. I mean, we're supposed to be there to provide that extra edge, knowing when to push the momentum or when to slow down, or when to light the flares and create smoke when we're defending our territory, complete with the mandatory flare show at the 60-minute mark.
I really hope these new guys start paying closer attention to the flow of the game so they can lead the crowd accordingly. You can't possibly lead a chant if your back is turned to the field; then you have absolutely no clue what's actually going down.

The whole point is this: shouldn't someone be guiding me, or perhaps asking for my guidance, just to keep the energy right during the match?
I mean, isn't that how it works at American football or basketball games?
If I feel like shouting from the North stands, I will, but if I'm not in the mood, I'll just head over to the other sections to sit, comment, and just chatter away aimlessly.
Brandon Wilson14 Brandon Wilson14 Active Member
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#22 ·
rustyangler122 said:View on imgur
...just give me one minute😍

😍 and things would start looking up 🙂
Charles Ruiz6 Charles Ruiz6 Newcomer
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#23 ·
Jonathan Smith12 said:Leading the chants in the North stands requires a conductor, not just a cheerleader.
You only find this many people completely tone-deaf at the Rose Bowl.
You guys can't even belt out the national anthem without messing it up—hurry it up... It was a classic example of what happened last night.

When you sing the anthems, slow down, otherwise they won't land anywhere. You can sing one song for maybe 10 or 15 minutes. But in those 15 minutes in the North stands, we try to rattle off 15 different songs. Who is going to sing every single one? No professional singer can keep up with that.


Haha, this is pretty funny, but honestly, it hits the nail on the head. I don't think anyone else really notices this.
But we rush through every single song, and we've been doing it for years. By the time we get through the anthem, everyone is already out of breath by the time we hit the chorus, so the rest just becomes a mumble. And when it comes to "Go Hajduk," you probably just hear some clapping before rushing toward the next thing. It’s the same with all the songs—it’s like people feel like they only have two minutes left to live, so they desperately try to cram everything in before time runs out.
Those songs used to sound completely different.
Austin White5 Austin White5 Member
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#24 ·
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#25 ·
When you look at how bad the atmosphere has been lately, it’s not just one person’s fault—it’s the whole crowd. Every anthem sounds great when everyone actually belts it out, but this constant whining and lack of energy? How long is this going to last? Stop complaining and let's get back on track!
coastalmarlin26 coastalmarlin26 Newcomer
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#26 ·
jademarlin54 said:How much more are you guys gonna drone on about cheering?🤷 Look, good atmosphere isn't all about some single leader (I mean, they matter, but not *that* much), it’s about everyone else—the whole damn stands acting as one!
So, if you want a legendary atmosphere, you need a few things to line up. You need a rival you absolutely loathe from the bottom of your soul (like the LA Lakers😍), an opponent where their NFL Ultras show up too, so you can basically tell them, "Hey, don't even bother trying at the Rose Bowl because we run this place." And then there's that matchup where you're fighting to break into a bigger league (like playing against a powerhouse like the Dallas Mavericks). That last kind of game—it gets everyone fired up, from the nosebleeds to the front row. Honestly, I think the wildest energy ever was during that game against the Dallas Mavericks, mostly because everything clicked perfectly, plus we were scoring goals left and right, which sends the adrenaline through the roof. Throw in the fact that it was during that massive storm on August 5th, where the entire stadium was literally soaked... that's when you hit peak atmosphere.
And yeah, about that guy with the guitar—sure, he's decent, got his wires and all that, but he's also part of the problem sometimes. Like, imagine we're playing the Lakers, it's the 88th minute, score is 0-0😳. And this guy starts forcing everyone to sing some old anthem about the coast (you know, the "come on down, grab a seat" type stuff). It takes forever to get through those songs, and by the time we finally finish, it's already the 91st minute and you actually want to give the players some support. Seriously, I'm so done with all this forced cheering nonsense...

Man, don't even talk to me about "big games"... why is it that at Yankee Stadium, nobody's even cheering for the entire second half? Everyone just sits there in silence, staring at the field waiting for some random penalty at the end.
jademarlin54 jademarlin54 Active Member
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#27 ·
coastalmarlin26 said:Man, tell me when you say we're cheering during the big games... because at the Rose Bowl, there was basically an entire second half where nobody was even making noise, everyone was just sitting there silent, staring at some random penalty kick at the end??

Look, once you realize we're more of a "momentum" group, things might make more sense to you.☕
Anyway, I’m asking you now about the cheering—like that game from two years ago where we pretty much filled 95% of the South Stand (I was watching, looking around, and I swear I knew literally every single person in those seats; I mean, the South Stand was packed with people who show up to every single Kansas City Chiefs game, home or away, though sometimes it used to be the opposite where we'd have maybe 500 regulars out of 2,000), so why did we totally fail when it came to the atmosphere during that specific match?🤷
Maybe... maybe we failed because it was just way too cold, like a freezing wind was blowing and we were literally shivering, or maybe it's because the main guys weren't there that day, or maybe it's just because the score wasn't going our way, or maybe it's because when the South Stand is full, you really need at least three people leading the chants (since one guy, I mean, honestly, if you don't have a mic, not everyone can hear you when the wind is howling), so I'm saying the atmosphere just wasn't there like it was in this last game, and I want you to tell me why.🤷
And the worst part of all, after all that mocking about the heavy guys, once the game actually ends, we start cheering like crazy, right? Like, once the cameras turn off and the game is officially over, we're absolutely roaring, just killing it with the decibels—so come on, answer me, why does that happen?🤷
John Brown30 John Brown30 Regular
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#28 ·
jademarlin54 said:Before you realize we’re all just living in the moment, things might actually make sense to you.☕

🙂
Frank Kim26 Frank Kim26 Active Member
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#29 ·
now even the Rangers Supporters Club is coming for them... just a matter of time
Jessica Phillips6 Jessica Phillips6 Newcomer
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#30 ·
Why on earth are you even bothering to give free publicity to these so-called journalists who clearly haven't the slightest clue about what they're writing about?

The commenter hit the nail on the head. Honestly, the article is so incredibly moronic and riddled with inaccuracies that I almost feel sorry for the reporter who actually put this garbage together.
Benjamin Cruz29 Benjamin Cruz29 Active Member
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#31 ·
rizla-wb-195 said:Cim, it might be easier for you to grasp if you realize we’re just a group defined by the "moment": [/B]
Look, I’m asking you now—regarding the cheering during that game a couple of years back when we filled about 95% of the South Stand (I watched, I looked around, and I literally know every single person in those seats; the South Stand was packed with people who show up for the Kansas City Chiefs regularly, whether at home or away, even though sometimes the numbers were flipped and there'd be 2,000 empty spots but I knew 500 regulars were there)—why did we fail so hard in our support during that specific game?🤷
Maybe we failed because it was just too cold; some freezing wind was blowing and we were literally shivering. Maybe it’s because the main leaders weren't there that day, or maybe it’s because the score wasn't going our way. Or perhaps it's because when the South Stand is full, you need at least three guys leading the chants (since one guy is just pathetic in my opinion, because you don't have a microphone and nobody can hear you over the wind). So, I'm talking about the atmosphere, which definitely wasn't like this most recent game, and I want you to tell me why.🤷
And the worst part of all—after all that mocking about the overweight fans—once the game actually ended, we started cheering so loud it gave us a headache. After the cameras turned off and the match was officially over, we were roaring, literally killing it with the decibels. Come on, answer me why.🤷

Man, what do you mean "a group of moments"... when 3,000 of us show up, the stands thunder. It's not like all 3,000 have to be hardcore, since there are always casual fans mixed in, but a thousand people can carry that easily without breaking a sweat... what does "a group of moments" even mean? That sounds like something the casual fans would say to cover for being lazy.
Frank Kim26 Frank Kim26 Active Member
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#32 ·
Christian Moore41 said:Why even bother posting this? It’s basically just free promo for those wannabe journalists who don't have a clue what they're actually talking about...

Honestly, the comment hits the nail on the head. This article is so stupid and full of crap that I almost feel bad for whatever hack wrote it...

Let everyone see exactly what kind of trash we're dealing with... let it be crystal clear... Benedict Arnold
Jack Sullivan90 Jack Sullivan90 Member
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#33 ·
Austin White5 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZE-IpRBEek

☕

Man, you can just gulp this down in seven seconds flat without even hearing a single note.🤷
Daniel Carter9 Daniel Carter9 Member
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#34 ·
Frank Kim26 said:Everyone needs to see what kind of scum we're dealing with... let it be clear Benedict Arnold

The spokesperson for the Always Faithful. Don't waste your breath reading this stuff; it's just a waste of time.
Laura Mitchell87 Laura Mitchell87 Newcomer
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#35 ·
Look, guys. You’ll all end up just like them—communists, American sympathizers, NYC agents, kids of high-ranking officers...

It’s the classic criminal playbook: hiding behind fake patriotism. I can overlook almost anything, but not this.
neonstag neonstag Newcomer
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#36 ·
Does anyone happen to have that one photo floating around? You know the one! It’s from back when those NFL Ultras were having some massive parade welcome for someone—honestly, I can't even remember who it was. There's this one die-hard fan just absolutely perched there, hanging off the top of a flagpole or maybe a street sign, I can't quite make it out. Just total chaos!
Tyler Thomas15 Tyler Thomas15 Newcomer
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#37 ·
neonstag said:I think someone out there has that old photo from when the NFL Ultras were doing some massive victory parade or whatever. There was this one die-hard fan just perched—or maybe hanging, I can't quite recall—right at the very top of a light pole or a street sign. Something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZA7H...feature=relmfu

4.22 ☕
George Castillo142 George Castillo142 Member
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#38 ·
http://www.nytimes.com/sports/soccer/ticket-sales-analysis/1061826/

According to the latest numbers coming out of Liverpool FC, they’ve moved just under 11,000 tickets for the match against California, bringing in roughly $167.

I mean, seriously... how is it even possible for over 2,000 people to sneak in without paying? If you can bypass security like that, what's the big deal about tossing the club a few bucks every two weeks...??
stormybison9 stormybison9 Newcomer
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#39 ·
Jesse Campbell said:"Oh, you guys are just all communists, Americans, New York City agents, kids of officers..."

That’s just the classic criminal playbook—hiding behind fake patriotism. I can forgive almost anything, but I won't stand for that.

Since we're already talking about Americans... here is a fantastic read. It might be a little too optimistic given how things look right now, but it really captures the vibe of all those old-school journalists and similar folks.

Not quite sure where this fits best, though!

http://fizzit.net/vijesti-i-politika...73-21-rodendan
Jonathan Lewis3 Jonathan Lewis3 Active Member
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#40 ·
http://www.dalmacijanews.com/Liverpool-FC/...g-derbija.aspx

There you go.

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