Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Ryan Taylor6 said:Real love isn't some fleeting trend; all this redjackal8 nonsense is just a passing fad!

This is what true passion looks like, man. Real devotion!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2QE8...&feature=inbox

And honestly, what does any of this have to do with the Bad Boys or the fans?🙂
I’ll never understand why people from out of town feel the need to stick their noses into the business of the Bad Boys!!!
What can you even take away from this as a football fan if you're actually interested in the sport?
The Bad Boys will always be there, cheering through thick and thin—some days better, some days worse. Who exactly is running the show? Honestly, who cares? If you really give a damn, anyone can step up and get involved. In the world of sports fandom, breaking in isn't even that hard.

Mark Reyes2 said:So this is the "new guard" mentality, huh? Really??
It’s basically "we’re here now, we decide how things work, and everyone else can go screw themselves."
Great—is this the progress everyone's talking about? Is this the supposed synergy and unity we were missing?!!
And what about those small towns?
Those "small towns" are the ones who kept this whole group afloat when the guys from ST were struggling just to find a van—sometimes even a car—to get to away games.
Just be careful about how you try to assert dominance and exactly how you want to play the leader!
Consider that some unsolicited advice from me, since you clearly think you're an expert at handing it out!
That’s enough talk from both @Naler and myself regarding the drama on this forum!

This is just a response to being provoked!!!

Jesse Garcia86 said:Just ignore him at this point. It’s obvious the guy doesn't know how to hold a rational conversation. Honestly, I was actually surprised a "normal" debate lasted that long today—it felt like watching some over-the-top James Bond movie🤣

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9H8ywFciQ4

This is exactly how I act whenever I get hit by a sudden wave of romance...

Man, you guys are getting exhausting. 🙄 You don't even know how to pick a fight properly. Nobody was out here making threats, for God's sake—everyone kept it strictly professional...

A playground scrap between fifth graders is more intense than this. At least give me some real energy once in a while. 🙂 😁

You still don't get that all this just proves what a pathetic bunch you are. 😍

Tear down that damn William Shakespeare and put up a monument to the Staff who's trying to lay out a plan but just can't pull it off... 🙂

I guess your support helped the Staff quite a bit, though it'll probably just end up having the opposite effect 😁

wanderingcobra18 said:I tend to avoid posting in this thread since nothing ever really gains traction on this forum—but I should probably mention a pattern I've been noticing lately...

Everyone keeps bringing up that one van from the KC area during those away trips...

It’s true. But maybe think about who was actually inside it... then certain things might start making sense...

edit: For those who aren't catching my drift, I'll just say this: the ones running the show...

Yeah, but back then we had a solid crew representing the whole country—from NYC to LA, Chicago, Seattle, etc.—and there wasn't all this internal drama between ST and the local branches...

wanderingcobra18 said:I avoid posting here because nothing ever changes on these forums, but I should mention something I’ve noticed happening over and over...

Everyone keeps bringing up that one van from the city during those away games...

It's true. But maybe think about who was actually inside it? Suddenly, certain things start to make sense...

edit: For those who aren't catching on, I'll just say this: the movers and shakers...

😕😕

How are the younger crowd supposed to know? The older generation tells stories today but conveniently forgets they weren't even around ten years ago.☕

@Laura Mitchell87, good luck with whoever you're praising.😍

Joseph Harris5 said:I suppose someone claiming they "don't care who's leading the charge" simply can't call themselves part of the Bad Boys. That’s really the line, isn't it? The distinction between a genuine supporter and just some casual fan. Now, both love the Kansas City Chiefs, and I'll certainly tip my hat to a casual who knows their history and can name players from fifty years ago—that's respectable enough—but being an actual fan is on an entirely different dimension. It involves different rules, different bonds, just... everything else. In my view, if you claim to be one of the Bad Boys but couldn't care less about the leadership, then you aren't one of us.

Reading this, I find myself just making a note in my journal under "fan group collapse" or perhaps "how much I loathe the posers, the amateurs, and the non-ultras while I end up sitting alone in the stands." We've seen this exact pattern play out in the North Side before, and well, look where that led us. Granted, the Bad Boys are unique—they've always been massive, far more enduring than any other group—yet instead of actually nurturing that specific identity, there seems to be this attempt to pivot toward a narrative that has already proven to be a failure in other groups. It feels rather cheap and unoriginal, I suppose...

Charles Ruiz6 said:Look, we aren't some organized military unit where everyone just follows orders without a word. Not to mention half the core crowd just stands there acting tough when they actually need to be cheering.

The biggest issue here is that most people—including plenty on this forum—obsess over supposed "extremists" and "radicals." It seems like one headline in a local paper was enough for you guys to form an entire opinion about the Bad Boys. Honestly, I haven't seen any of these "radicals" you keep making up in your stories. People who have zero connection to actual fan culture are out here creating myths about extremists and other nonsense, which just clutters the conversation and drags things out for no reason. You walk down the street, you see punks in a park and realize that's a certain vibe; you see skaters and get the same idea. Then you see regular fans dominating the crowd—people anywhere from 7 to 77 years old. Doesn't matter if they've traveled to two away games or 200, or if they've set off 200 flares or none at all. Everyone thinks they're an expert on everything. Respect? Solidarity? A sense of belonging to a group? Those terms are totally foreign here. As long as you follow the trend and dress like the guy next door, suddenly you're part of the crew like you've been there for years. At this point, it’s not even about the younger kids joining in; it’s about a completely broken value system. There's no real history, no mentality, and zero respect being built.
That’s what separates a true group from just a random crowd of people. The situation has become so backwards and the whole system is so warped that everyone talking about the group is somehow right and wrong at the same time.

Jose Kern11 said:The Bad Boys are way more organized, serious, and three times larger today than they were back in 2002, 2003, or 2004.
Personally, I don't really mind. If someone doesn't like it, well, they can just go mind their own business and complain about how everything is falling apart. But, I suppose, it’s just nicer to see 1,000 people showing up at an away game and cheering consistently for most of the match, rather than the old days when maybe 150 people showed up, half of them just kicking things and the other half shouting over one another.

But you don't get it. You think those 50 guys who scream for twenty minutes, get into a brawl with each other, and have their specific little outfits and "proper" gear—that's what, the peak of "ultra" mentality? (I mean, do you even know what a fan group actually is?) It's all just "Uber Ultra" nonsense... mostly just empty talk...

You're absolutely right. The Bad Boys have never been better; honestly, they've rarely been this strong as they have been over the last three or four seasons. But then again, who is going to prove that to people with brainwashed minds who cling to a lifestyle that has proven to be a total disaster for fan groups lately? No one. It would probably be more honest if they just had their own sub-groups and lived out their own little fantasies instead of this, but I guess we'll see what happens at the assembly... The Kansas City Chiefs are bigger than any individual, even bigger than the Bad Boys... Anyone who doesn't see that clearly shouldn't even bother being in the stands at the Rose Bowl...

I honestly don't get it anymore🙂—those people who were all over this just two or three pages ago, suddenly they're against it, then they flip again. It’s the classic Bad Boys move.😍

The only thing worse than this forum debate would be watching prime time news on CNN at 8:15 PM...

And honestly, are you people aware that hiding behind your screens typing this stuff just spreads toxicity? Based on these posts, it looks like we're practically witnessing a total breakdown of our community.

placidheron16 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9H8ywFciQ4

Honestly, that is exactly how I act whenever a little bit of romance starts sweeping me off my feet...

😕

Aaron Howard44 said:Sure, but back then we had quality squads coming from all over the US—NYC, LA, Chicago, Miami, you name it—and there wasn't any of this pathetic internal splintering, like ST fighting against its own branches...

That's total nonsense. We were brawling up in the north stands every other game over the most trivial, petty bullshit imaginable. Even just a "what are you staring at?" would trigger a fight.

In Brc, I met people in the rawest way possible—getting into a scrap on the bleachers. Once the dust settled, we’d shake hands and go right back to cheering like nothing happened. Different things mattered more than whose territory was whose or which "faction" someone belonged to.

If everyone is genuinely invested, then heated clashes don't necessarily have to be malicious or end in disaster.

P.S. Now, everyone just pipe down. This conversation has turned into a lot of empty noise and far too much hot air.

Love you all, 😁

Christian Moore41 said:there wasn't a damn thing happening back thenwe’d get into scraps up in the North stands every few games over the most trivial nonsense—even just someone giving you a look like "what are you staring at?"

Honestly, I can't even describe it properly; I once got into a full-blown brawl on the bleachers with a guy, and when we finally finished, we just shook hands and went right back to cheering like absolutely nothing had happened. We valued different things back then—it didn't matter whose territory it was or what specific "faction" you belonged to.

When everyone is fully invested with pure hearts, those little outbursts don't necessarily have to be bad or end in disaster.

p.s. alright, now everyone just calm down because this is starting to feel like a bunch of empty arguments and way too much hot air being blown everywhere.

love you all else😁

so that's exactly what the North and today's Bad Boys are missing...

http://youtu.be/ZIW9lbaJsR8 🤣

Jesse Garcia86 said:so I guess that's what the North and today's Bad Boys are missing...

Look, Prika, the Bad Boys are everything...

Mark Reyes2 said:That’s exactly that "new school" attitude right there, buddy.
We're the ones here; it doesn't matter how we got here, and things are going to go exactly how we say they will—everyone else can go screw themselves!
Great, you can already see all that "progress," "synergy," and "unity" that was supposedly missing before!!
Villages?
Those "villages" were the ones keeping this group afloat while those of us at STMicroelectronics were driving vans or even cars just to get us to away games.
Watch how you try to play the leader and decide exactly how you want to be the boss!
Here’s a little piece of benevolent advice from me, since you clearly know so much about giving it out!
That's enough talk from Drake and me on this forum!

Good one. The crew stands with Gavin. You can't bring water to someone who isn't thirsty when it comes to the fan life, because there are very few fans like that among the NFL Ultras. I don't even need to vouch for his character; no matter how many likes you hunt for, anyone who actually knows whose handle Maslina belongs to will confirm exactly what I'm saying... thanks, goodnight.

Jesse Garcia86 said:So that’s what the North and today’s Red Army are missing...

Look, stop screwing with Zid. You told me back then there were just growing pains, and this whole thing people are calling a "breakup" today? It’s just a massive headache that could be fixed with one honest conversation—just not on some internet forum.

John Brown30 said:http://youtu.be/ZIW9lbaJsR8 🤣

😁

placidheron16 said:Just one final bit of advice for you... maybe don't take yourself quite so seriously. You're who you are, I suppose. We're all here now, just being ourselves until the big meeting rolls around, and then... well, we'll see how things play out. Just remember, being the big shot back in your small hometown doesn't necessarily mean you have any real authority once you step foot in the big city.

And I guess the question remains... who in your tiny little town actually gave you the impression that you belong in a major metropolitan area?