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Similarities between The Shawshank Redemption and Escape from Alcatraz

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wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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Look, let me start by saying that The Shawshank Redemption is easily in my top five greatest films ever made—so I’m probably the last person on this planet who would say anything negative about it. Escape from Alcatraz is also sitting comfortably in my top 30, and it's a personal favorite. It goes without saying that Clint Eastwood is one of my absolute favorite actors, if not *the* favorite, right up there with Al Pacino...

Now, having laid that out, I want to get to the heart of this discussion. I can't shake the feeling that the plot of The Shawshank Redemption is uncannily similar to Escape from Alcatraz. The parallels are so striking that I have to wonder: was the story of The Shawshank Redemption actually lifted from Escape from Alcatraz, regardless of the fact that the latter is based on true events?

Let’s lay out the facts:

"Escape from Alcatraz" came out in 1979, while Stephen King’s novella (which the The Shawshank Redemption film is based on), "Different Seasons - Rita Hayworth and Shawshank Redemption," was written in 1982, and the The Shawshank Redemption film itself didn't hit screens until 1994.

So, is it just my imagination, or did Stephen King essentially lift about 80% of the story's skeleton from "Escape from Alcatraz," including specific details from the real-life events the movie depicts?

It feels "implausible" to me that King didn't do it—and by extension, the film—because the similarities are just too glaring. Here are the specific overlaps between Escape from Alcatraz and The Shawshank Redemption:

1. A highly intelligent protagonist ends up in prison and orchestrates an escape by digging a hole through a wall, meticulously planning every single detail to near perfection.

The difference? In Shawshank, the hole is dug over sixteen years, whereas in Escape from Alcatraz, the timeline isn't explicitly stated, though I'd guess it wasn't even a full year—likely because the walls in Alcatraz were much softer. Both scenarios are logically sound, but you can't tell me they aren't fundamentally the same story structure.

That’s the first similarity.

2. Once inside, the lead meets another inmate who is also relatively intelligent and is African American. In both films, there's a slight variation—in Shawshank, "Red" is the contraband dealer, while in Alcatraz, the character works in the library—but we know Brooks also worked in the library in Shawshank, leading us to the third point:

3. Brooks has a little "pet" he looks after in prison, acting as a kind soul, much like Litmus in Alcatraz; the only distinction is that Brooks tends to a bird, while Litmus tends to a mouse.

4. Much like Andy in Shawshank, Frank in Alcatraz also lands a job working in the library.

5. Both Andy and Frank are targeted by local prison bullies. However, Frank defends himself and shuts down the first bully who tries to make him a subordinate immediately—though, realistically, who could actually force Clint Eastwood to be anyone's subordinate? 😁 Still, it's a clear parallel, even if you argue it's just a common trope in prison movies. I'll mention it anyway.

6. Just like in Alcatraz, the prisoner in Shawshank pulls off a brilliant escape using a master plan. The only real difference is that Frank (Clint) had two accomplices helping him, one of whom was a bit slow and ended up staying behind.

7. To hide the hole, Frank uses a makeshift cover made of styrofoam and wood (or something similar) to mimic a vent, whereas Andy uses a poster of famous actresses.

I won't list any more, but feel free to jump in yourselves. I really want to hear what you think: Did King actually rip off "Escape from Alcatraz" in his novella, and subsequently, did the The Shawshank Redemption film follow suit?

I'm also dropping the poll here 🙂

P.S.: I honestly cannot believe I typed ESCARE instead of ESCAPE in the poll—seriously, if any of the mods or Deckard could fix that typo, I’d appreciate it. If not, no big deal... clearly I haven't fully woken up yet, god damn.
Maria Fox4 Maria Fox4 Member
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#2 ·
I honestly don't see any connection there. I mean, just look at the title; the whole core premise is about redemption. You’ve got this innocent guy rotting in prison for twenty years. From his point of view, he actually needed to be behind bars. He was living a lie, basically just playing a role instead of being himself, and prison served as his way to find his soul again. That long, grueling digging process? That’s a literal metaphor for that journey toward self-discovery.
As for the rest—the prison pets, the drug dealers, the lifelong cellmate buddies—that stuff is in every single prison flick ever made. If I were anyone else, I'd probably just write it off as standard Hollywood clichés.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Aaron Martinez26 said:I’m of the opinion that they don't share much of a foundation—mostly because, as the title itself suggests, the core premise here is redemption. We're looking at an innocent man who ends up serving twenty years behind bars. From his perspective, prison was actually necessary; he was living a hollow version of himself, essentially an imitation of the man he was meant to be. Prison becomes his path toward actual redemption—his way back to his true self. That digging process? It’s a literal representation of that long, grueling journey.
As for the other stuff—prison pets, dealers, friends, and the usual crowd—those elements pop up in just about every prison flick out there. If anything, I'd suspect those are just standard tropes used to depict life behind bars.

Look, I agree with you on certain points, but I wouldn't go so far as to say they lack a fundamental connection. They definitely have one; they just diverge when it comes to the specifics and how those details are distributed. That's exactly why I checked "not sure" in the poll—I can't be certain. But I do follow your logic, even if I think those "clichés" you mentioned are actually quite similar across both stories. To be honest, I don't really care how you slice it.

I love both films—especially The Shawshank Redemption, which will always hold a special place for me. It's a masterpiece.
Maria Fox4 Maria Fox4 Member
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#4 ·
I feel the same way about The Shawshank Redemption. Honestly, I don't even really see it as a "prison movie," whereas Escape from Alcatraz definitely leans into that whole vibe. For me, the real mystery was whether those guys actually made it to the shoreline. There’s zero hard evidence; you can dig through miles of FBI files and find nothing concrete. It reminds me of how a few years back, three guys over in the UK tried the exact same thing—swimming out under the same conditions, at night, maybe even on the same day—and everything played out just like the movies. They hit the shore without a single issue.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Aaron Martinez26 said:I’m right there with you on *The Shawshank Redemption*. Honestly, I don’t even view it as a "prison movie"—not in the way most people define the genre. It’s much more than just a gritty look at life behind bars; it’s something else entirely. While Alcatraz feels like it hits that specific note much more directly—it’s just built into the DNA of the story. What I’ve always found more compelling is whether they actually managed to reach the shoreline. You can dig through miles of FBI documentation and endless stacks of paperwork, but when you strip all that away, there isn't a single shred of concrete evidence. It's all just speculation at this point. To put it in perspective—a few years back, three British guys attempted the exact same thing. They swam under the same grueling conditions, at the same time of night, possibly even on the very same day. Everything about their attempt was legitimate, and unlike this mystery, they made it to the coast without any issues whatsoever.

I completely agree regarding the prison element in Escape from Alcatraz—the atmosphere there feels significantly more grim and "cold." It captures that raw, individual struggle within the system much more effectively. Of course, the characters play a huge role in that, but you also can't ignore how the setting itself contributes; the sheer look and feel of Alcatraz creates a much harsher vibe compared to the environment in Shawshank.

Now, regarding the whole Escape situation—it’s based on true events, but if we're judging solely by the film itself, did they actually make it out? Personally, I’d say they did. If you recall the end of the movie, the warden finds a flower sitting there on the shoreline. It’s that specific flower that Andy took from the painter back when the warden had forbidden him from painting—it feels like a deliberate, symbolic gesture left behind. I mean, who else would leave something like that there? You wouldn't find those kinds of flowers growing on a barren, jagged rock face like that unless someone put them there.

It’s a bit of a somber thought—whether that flower was actually left there during the actual event or if it's just some later addition. Honestly, I couldn't tell you for certain. 🙂 If you ask me, I’d say they actually pulled off the escape—but it wasn't long before Alcatraz caught up with them and shut the whole thing down.

Honestly, I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve sat through both Escape from Alcatraz and The Shawshank Redemption. At this point, it feels like part of my routine. 😁 Even if they all clash within that specific atmosphere, each one remains uniquely irreplaceable to me—in its own distinct way.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#6 ·
Man, I watched > way back when, and honestly, I probably would've caught those similarities sooner. From what I remember, > just feels totally inferior to > in basically every single way, but that doesn't mean it's a bad movie or anything. It’s got that gritty, heavy atmosphere you only get from those classic American movies from the seventies, and having > in it is legendary, period. Sure, some plot points overlap, but let's be real—that's true for pretty much every prison flick out there.
wiredraven82 wiredraven82 Active MemberOP
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#7 ·
Patrick Martin said:It’s got that gritty, raw atmosphere you only find in 70s American cinema—plus, having Clint Eastwood in the mix is legendary. While I agree there are certain parallels, I suspect that’s just the standard DNA of pretty much every prison flick out there.

👍

For anyone looking to revisit the classic Escape from Alcatraz, you can catch it online right here:
http://www.vidxden.com/nmq9vn02162d
Henry Campbell5 Henry Campbell5 Active Member
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#8 ·
Patrick Martin said:I watched The Shawshank Redemption and Escape from Alcatraz a long time ago, though I probably would've caught that similarity. From what I remember, Escape from Alcatraz just can't touch The Shawshank Redemption in any category, but that doesn't mean it's a bad movie. It’s got that gritty 70s American vibe, plus Clint Eastwood is a legend. Sure, there are some overlaps, but honestly, that's true for pretty much every prison flick out there.

Yeah, it definitely loses on the melodrama front.
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#9 ·
Henry Campbell5 said:Yeah, he’s totally bottom-tier when it comes to being pathetic.

Honestly, the first thing anyone thinks of when they hear "pathetic" is somewhere like 🤷 prison.
Henry Campbell5 Henry Campbell5 Active Member
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#10 ·
Patrick Martin said:prison is just pure melodrama 🤷

Not prison in general, specifically The Shawshank Redemption. Even the title is cheesy. And that pathetic puppy-dog look on his face every time he gets screwed over, or how happy he looks when he drags Morgan down with him... I know they don't show it explicitly, but how else would a cold-blooded killer love him?
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#11 ·
So, I was thinking about this whole "late bloomer" thing today. You know, that feeling when you look around and it seems like everyone else hit their stride back in high school while you’re still out here trying to figure out which way is up? It’s frustrating as hell. It feels like you missed the boat, or maybe the boat left the dock before you even realized there was a pier. I mean, look at some of those guys we see in movies—like how they talk about the underdog finally making it. It reminds me of that scene in *The Shawshank Redemption* where everything just... clicks. Or even that whole vibe in *Escape from Alcatraz*, where someone is just grinding away in a cell, waiting for that one perfect moment to actually break free and start living. People think success is this straight line, but honestly? It’s more like a messy, jagged zigzag. It’s easy to get hot-headed about it, too. You see some kid on social media making millions by twenty and you just want to throw your phone across the room. It feels rigged. But then again, maybe some people are just built to simmer longer before they boil over. Like a slow cooker versus a microwave. Sure, the microwave is faster, but does anyone actually enjoy a microwaved meal compared to something that took all day to get right? Probably not. Anyway, just a random thought. Just felt like venting. I can't even begin to explain this one without getting worked up, but here we go. So, I was looking at what Patrick Martin had to say, and honestly? It’s just... wow. Just wow. It's like when you're watching some low-budget flick and you realize halfway through that the script was written on a napkin during a lunch break. You know that feeling? That "is this for real?" sensation? Yeah, that. It reminds me of those old prison movies—you know, like The Shawshank Redemption or that whole Escape from Alcatraz vibe where everything feels heavy and grim. Except instead of a high-stakes breakout, we're just stuck dealing with this absolute nonsense. It’s like being trapped in a cell with someone who won't stop humming the same three notes over and over again. It drives you up the wall! Look, I'm not trying to be difficult, but you can't just throw stuff out there and expect people to nod along. It's not how things work in America. We value actual substance. You can't just wing it like Clint Eastwood in some western where he stares intensely at the horizon while everything falls apart around him. You need a plan. You need logic. Anyway, I'm rambling. My coffee is cold, my head hurts, and I feel like I've spent twenty minutes arguing with a brick wall. But seriously, think about it. Just... think.
I’m not even talking about prison in general here—I mean specifically Shawshank. And honestly? The title itself is just straight-up pathetic. Like, give me a break. And don't even get me started on those miserable looks on the guards' faces every time they screw him over, or that fake-ass happy look when he finally manages to set up Morgan. I know they didn't actually show it on screen, but let's be real... how else is a cold-blooded killer supposed to feel?

Look, I wasn't even talking about everyone in general, okay? And honestly, gay people are just people. If anything, realizing that actually hits me even harder emotionally. 🤷
It honestly adds this whole new layer to the movie. Like, it gives the entire thing a much deeper dimension than I expected. 😬
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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#12 ·
These are two completely different movies—both in terms of their setup and their overall approach. I’m not really going to weigh in on which one is "better," since they both have their own unique strengths and flaws. While Clint and that gritty atmosphere definitely give Escape from Alcatraz the edge, I think The Shawshank Redemption is slightly superior overall—though, if I'm being honest, that overly sentimental ending pulls it down just a touch for me. At the end of the day, we're looking at two solid films that stand on their own, regardless of the subject matter.
Henry Campbell5 Henry Campbell5 Active Member
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Patrick Martin said:I wasn't even speaking in generalities. Gay people are human beings, and honestly, knowing that just adds more weight to the story. 🤷
it gives the movie a whole new, deeper layer... 😬

Everyone ends up gay in prison, so I don't think they actually are—and I have nothing against them, regardless of their race or where they're from.

Since we're on the subject, that depicts the tender relationship between two men much more directly and convincingly than any other prison flick I've seen. At least, from what I've watched, since most of them are just filled with gratuitous gay crap for my taste.

Just skip the gay stuff, please!
Patrick Martin Patrick Martin Regular
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#14 ·
Honestly, is hands down the best prison movie ever made 😉
Maria Fox4 Maria Fox4 Member
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Patrick Martin said:this is the best prison movie 😉

And here's the most lovable guard ever: image
vividmarlin11 vividmarlin11 Member
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#16 ·
It’s tough to break new ground in prison movies—there are just too many built-in limitations—but even then, The Shawshank Redemption and Escape from Alcatraz are fundamentally different films with completely opposing goals. Getting caught up in nitpicking specific subgenres is pretty pointless; if we did that, we’d just end up with a mountain of "copycat" heist, fantasy, or sci-fi flicks that barely share anything beyond a thin veneer of similarity.
Karen Smith9 Karen Smith9 Active Member
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Patrick Martin said:this is the best prison movie ever made 😉

It's very good—I'll give you that—but it just doesn't quite reach the level of Lemonade.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090982/
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Henry Campbell5 said:I’m not talking about prison in general—I mean specifically >. Even the title itself feels a bit pathetic. And that whole dynamic where they act all sad when he gets framed, then suddenly happy when he sets up Morgan? I know the movie doesn't show it explicitly, but how else would a cold-blooded killer feel about him?

Wait, what?😕
Rebecca Martinez4 Rebecca Martinez4 Newcomer
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Henry Campbell5 said:I'm not even talking about prison in general, I mean specifically The Shawshank Redemption. Honestly, even the title itself feels a bit pathetic if you think about it. And that whole vibe where the guard has this miserable, pathetic look on his face every time he screws him over, or how things seem to go great when he manages to set up Morgan... I know they don't show it explicitly on screen, but I guess, I don't know, how else would a killer like that actually end up liking him?

Thanks! I'm right there with you.

It’s just so incredibly forced, and then you have Clint just giving off this subtle spark of genius, you know, someone who just knows his stuff without having to drone on with all that heavy-handed philosophy.

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