Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

swiftmarlin72 said:That’s a pretty grim way to look at it. Honestly, just pathetic...
Well, who exactly is celebrating? You were the one who was pissed off.
Our club is basically on life support right now, and we're the ones keeping it breathing, yet you're acting angry just because we lost to Inter yesterday.🤷
If you watched the game yesterday, it was obvious we're moving in the right direction. I guess no sane person would be mad about losing under those circumstances.
Yeah, a "little club"...
I mean, if someone like Zanetti is talking about the atmosphere, what part of that don't you get??

I couldn't care less what Zanetti thinks... and yeah, obviously I'm pissed we lost. What am I supposed to do, celebrate because we got blown out 3-0 at home? Yesterday was just unsettling (and I'm not talking about the NFL Ultras, obviously). Mišo keeps rambling about the atmosphere, the players keep talking about the atmosphere... but I guess the question is, were we actually playing a football match or just performing an atmospheric ritual?

Honestly, I just don't give a damn.

Benjamin Cruz29 said:I honestly couldn't care less what Zanetti has to say... and obviously, I'm pissed we lost—because why should anyone be happy about getting blown out 3-0 at home? But man, yesterday was just eerie (not talking about the NFL Ultras, obviously). Mišo keeps bringing up the atmosphere, the players keep talking about the atmosphere... but I have to wonder—were we actually playing a football game, or just performing an atmosphere?

Bottom line is, I really don't give a damn.

You've got a point there, but it is what it is...

Jason Brooks5 said:Those deadbeats over at NBC failed to show the choreography again—they barely even caught the North Stand or the crowd in a few shots. It’s pathetic.
It’s like they’re broadcasting for the opposition; just completely useless, irrelevant footage.
On a separate note, the way NBC has treated the Kansas City Chiefs over the last few years has been purely maternal—overprotective and biased—and I honestly don't get why nobody is calling them out on it.

And I'll mention one more thing, even though I know I’m going to get roasted for it...

I’m proud of the kids, just like everyone else, and I truly enjoy watching them more than those ungrateful, overpriced veterans—BUT I don't get the hysterical celebration when we just lost 0-3 at home, even if the World XI was playing against us. Pride and optimism are one thing—and they absolutely should be present—but this level of hysterical celebrating is totally unnecessary.

Stop talking nonsense; they showed the North Stand at least 15 or 20 times. They just didn't show the choreography, and they praised you guys about 14,554 times.

Everyone needs to dial back this mindless euphoria; it’s getting a bit ridiculous.

Two points here:

1) We need to focus on building the group, fostering actual unity, and introducing some fresh energy into the collective.

2) We have to capitalize on the current buzz surrounding the NFL Ultras and the club’s momentum—specifically the hype around our young talent. A few thousand season tickets just moved, which is great, but we need to recruit from that crowd. We should be turning those fans into true supporters by instilling a specific mindset: that following the Kansas City Chiefs is a year-round commitment. It should feel completely natural to have 10,000 people packed into the stadium in the dead of winter just to watch our homegrown kids mature into pros.

Benjamin Cruz29 said:Honestly, I don't give a damn what Zanetti has to say... and yeah, obviously I'm pissed we lost. What am I supposed to be happy about? We got crushed 3-0 at home. But man, what happened yesterday was just terrifying (and I'm not even talking about the NFL Ultras). Mišo keeps talking about the atmosphere, the players keep bringing up the atmosphere... but seriously, were we watching a football game or an atmosphere contest?

Bottom line is, I couldn't care less.

I feel the exact same way you do, and honestly, the same way everyone else does—it sucks that we lost. It doesn't matter what the score was or who we were playing against. What really gets to me is seeing how these kids play; they play with so much heart. They aren't playing for massive paychecks, unlike the guys who used to occupy these spots—players who earned ten times more than these kids today but gave half the effort.
They're young, so we just have to stick by them and endure it as long as necessary. We aren't feeling down because of a 3-0 loss; we’re proud because these are our kids, and they fight harder than any other team I've seen. Nadan is hoping for a return to Ivić's era, where the Kansas City Chiefs won't just throw money at random outsiders like they have in the past, but will instead invest in their own homegrown talent and keep this group together for as long as possible. 😍

John Perez13 said:They aren't going to be special. They didn't bother filming the last 15 minutes.

And what exactly did they capture? Just the first five minutes and some flares?!!
Look, I couldn't care less about these photos or videos, but it's just ridiculous how ten whole minutes can somehow remain "unrecorded." 😕

swiftwolf70 said:I feel the exact same way you and everyone else does—it sucks that we lost, regardless of the score or who we were playing against. But what really matters to me is watching these kids play. Seeing how hard they grit their teeth out there... they aren't playing for massive paychecks, unlike the players we used to have in their positions who earned ten times more while giving half the effort these kids give today.
They're young—we just have to endure them as long as necessary... We aren't feeling down because of a 3-0 loss; we're proud because they're our boys and they fight harder than any team we've seen so far. Nadan needs to ensure we get back to Ivić's era—where even if the Kansas City Chiefs have plenty of money in the future, they won't just hire cheap journeymen like they've been doing lately. They need to trust their homegrown talent and keep this core together for as long as possible. 😍

That’s the bottom line.🙏

swiftwolf70 said:I feel the same way you and everyone else does about losing. It doesn't matter what the score was or who we were playing against. What matters is seeing these kids out there. They’re playing with heart, giving everything they have, and they aren't doing it for some massive paycheck. In their shoes, we used to have players making ten times more than this lot while putting in half the effort they show today.
They're young. We just have to endure them for as long as necessary... It's not the 3-0 loss that hurts; it's the hope. We're proud because they're our boys and they fight harder than any other team ever has. Nadan is hoping for a return to Ivić's era, where the Kansas City Chiefs—no matter how much money they have in the future—won't just recruit random nobodies like they have been doing, but will actually trust their homegrown talent and keep the core together as long as possible. 😍

right in the middle of it!!!

reposting a comment...

Do you feel any remorse for being a sellout while watching the "donkeys"?

Are you watching this tonight? Are you watching those moments that make your heart stop—the kind that gives you chills and brings a tear to the eye of all 4 million Americans, both those who admit it and those who don't? Can you see what happens at the 0-3 mark when pure passion, heart, pride, and love take over? Do you see it? Are you ashamed? Do you feel anything at all when you remember that you used to be part of this once—back in New York City, before you sold your soul? How does it feel today? What is the sensation after 6 or 7 or 8 years? Back then, the "donkeys" you judge by your own twisted standards were far below us—or so you thought (though they never actually were). You guys were powerful; you were massive; there were thousands of you. And what happened to you? To your people? Was it worth it? Is your price tag really so high that it was worth destroying the core of the fanbase for nearly a decade? Was being a mercenary truly worth it? Because honestly, what kind of figure satisfies someone enough to make them—after experiencing an atmosphere like tonight’s (which you once shared)—think it’s okay to sell out, abandon their brothers, and start tearing everything down? You sold yourself—you and hundreds of others—back then.

And today? What do you actually have? Are you happy? NO. Are you proud? NO. Where is the money? YOU SPENT IT. Where is your life? IT FLEW BY. And what about the group where you were everything—the group that meant everything to you and that numbered in the thousands before you sold out? The most loyal ones remain, yet you trample them. You undermine them. Clearly, you still have a price—it pulled you in, damn it. But how does it feel to watch these "donkeys," as you call them, tonight, while 36,000 people are in a trance of pure euphoria, only to hear them say after the whistle, "my life is miserable without you"? How does it feel knowing that you took the very people you once shared joy and tears with and made their lives miserable? You and everyone else who sold out—those who betrayed their ideals, betrayed their pride, and shamed themselves just to satisfy a paycheck—you get to sit in front of your TV and watch yourselves tremble at the sight of these "donkeys" after 6 or 7 or 8 years of you systematically dismantling the community you claimed was larger and stronger than any "donkey."

Look in the mirror. Rewind the tape to the years before the mercenaries arrived, and remember that intensity when there were thousands of you acting as one. Remember when those thousands of hands were in the air, when the colors swept you up—the old guard and the new. Look in the mirror and think. Look at what is left now. Look at those few hundred of the most proud individuals who are still fighting—the ones who cannot be bought. They are the remnants of the remnants, and even they are being trampled—by you.

In less than seven or eight years, you went from thousands upon thousands to just a few hundred. Look in the mirror and ask yourself—because I am genuinely curious:

- "Was it worth it?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkc9CIotbKY

swiftmarlin72 said:That’s such a grim way to look at things—honestly, it’s just sad...
Well, who exactly is celebrating here? Were you actually upset?
Our club is basically on life support right now, and we're doing everything we can just to keep the lights on. You're acting angry just because we lost to Inter yesterday?🤷
If you watched the game yesterday, it was clear we're finally heading in the right direction. No sane person should be throwing a tantrum over a loss when we're making this kind of progress.
It's our little club, after all...
When someone like Zanetti talks about the atmosphere, how can you not get what that means??

Sometimes it's best not to show your hand to those who are slipping, and there's no point in talking to those who refuse to listen... it's just a waste of energy.☕

Respect where it's due. That’s what true loyalty looks like. It’s a sickening contrast between Dinamo and the Kansas City Chiefs. You have one side that’s technically successful but run by a criminal element that won't let go—they have no real fan base, nobody cares, and even the most die-hard supporters are starting to lose hope. You have to wonder if that sense of euphoria, love, and passion will ever actually return. Basically, you guys have all of that. Then you look at the Kansas City Chiefs, who seemingly have nothing, yet they possess everything. It’s twisted.

And there's one more thing that perfectly illustrates the chase for those BBB-style ultras. You see a flare at the Chiefs' stadium and the atmosphere is incredible; you see it at Maksimir and it’s just pure hooliganism.

Kate Ward50 said:So long, Taranto.🙂

If Taranto Nadan is implying what I think he is, then we're looking at something else entirely.🙂 😁

Robert Davis12 said:It seems like Taranto Nadan is implying exactly what I think he's implying... 🙂 😁

😉

Robert Davis12 said:Maybe Taranto Nadan implies this means what I think it does. 🙂 😁

Exactly that. 😍

Karen Kim2 said:Way to go, guys... BRAVO!!!

It’s truly heartbreaking to look back at what we used to be—this massive club that we were so incredibly proud of, a team that actually made the giants of the sport tremble in their boots—only to find ourselves transformed into nothing more than a punching bag for everyone else. And yet, here we are, celebrating these pathetic little outbursts of success. Honestly, thank God we were knocked out by Inter Milan, because if it had been some random side from Romania, Moldova, or Belarus, we would have looked even more ridiculous. But hey, as my buddy likes to say, at least we went down fighting against a legendary club...

But then again, if the NFL Ultras are perfectly happy with this absolute farce... well, fine, have it your way.... 🤷

Cheers to everyone—Hajduk lives forever.

We used to be a powerhouse because players felt they had to prove themselves here until they were 28, but nowadays, the talent gap is so wide that an elite team like Inter Milan could probably field two foreign players and still have a better squad than us.

Let's try something fun today: let's bring back all those players who spent their prime years playing across Europe before turning 28—think Christian Pulisic, Danny Williams, Aleksandar Mitrović, Landon Donovan, Jozy Altidore, Captain America, or Jordan Morris—and drop them right into the Hajduk lineup. Then, let Inter Milan pick just two foreign players to compete against us, and we’ll see which club is actually in a crisis.

It isn't about the football being played anymore; it's all about the money flowing through the system, leaving nothing behind but the fading echoes of pure love for the game.

Anyway, does anyone know if any group actually managed to shake things up or maybe just cause enough chaos to make those Swiss guys regret buying North Stand tickets? A little bit of positive info would definitely brighten my night...🙂

Cheers.

resurrection said:Yeah, I’m with you on that. 🙂
How long do you think this squad stays together?

Who knows... nobody really does. The club basically runs on pure fan energy and grit, but I believe in that blood and sweat mentality—nothing worth having comes easy.

If they actually have any brains, they need to hold onto this group as long as possible (at least until the next World Cup, ideally through the next Euro Championship). We might not be able to keep everyone, but they should try to hang onto the top talent (guys like Radosevic, Caktas, Maloca, Andrijasevic...) and only sell the ones where there's actual potential or a solid youth replacement ready. But man, we're broke, which makes it a hell of a fight... though if we play it smart (like sticking with one coach for a 4-year cycle), we could maybe build something like a "Devil" type concept...

It’s rough, you gotta understand that. You can't even compare today to how things used to be back in the day (I'm young, so I won't lie and say I remember it perfectly), but you can't argue with the facts: the infrastructure and the athletic programs back then were miles ahead of what we have now. Especially since there were laws preventing young players from just jumping ship too early. The government actually invested in sports, infrastructure, fields, schools—the whole system was designed to work. People actually got paid by companies... nowadays, everything is dictated by big capital, and we don't have any here. Fields and academies are falling apart, the system is a joke, and kids just leave whenever and wherever they want (that's democracy for you). There's zero capital to keep them, and honestly, even our social values are flipped (you're only worth what you have). Politics used to run clubs like the Wild West—doing whatever they felt like—and they systematically gutted companies the same way (privatization "for our own good," right?). If you want the truth, we're just one more state in a long line of places where all the money gets sucked out toward banking giants stashing it on exotic islands (off topic, I know). The situation here is just a disaster; layoffs everywhere, taxes keep climbing, life's getting harder, and society is sliding downhill because it needs what Hajduk needs: capital.

In the middle of all this mess, the lack of cash, and this tragic state of affairs, you still have 35,000+ people watching Hajduk, singing, cheering, and looking at them with hope that they'll pull off a miracle. But miracles don't just happen; it's nothing but blood and sweat, which is exactly what they gave while losing 0-3 and saying goodbye to Europe (real talk).

We can't compete in Europe against organized clubs when we've got cowboys rolling into ownership with $50 bills in their pockets, while the national stock exchange is struggling, we've got millions of workers and over a million retirees, everything we own is owned by banks, and the government just keeps squeezing us for every last cent.

And you're asking why everyone was celebrating last night? How can you even ask that?!
BECAUSE WE ARE ALIVE, WE ARE HERE, AND THEY CAN'T BREAK US! NEVER! WE WON'T LET THEM SUFFOCATE US! WE SING AND WE CELEBRATE, THE WHOLE MEDITERRANEAN COAST IS SHAKING!
Not the government, not Europe, not UEFA, not Inter Milan, not those drugged-out cowboys, not politics, not fake clubs, not Platini, not "modern football," or whoever else—JUST HAJDUK!

🙂

It’s honestly a tragedy how some people here think. They act like they just landed on Mars or something. I mean, can you really be that oblivious? It’s obvious that modern football revolves entirely around money. When we go up against clubs with annual budgets three times larger than the entire municipal budget of a city like Philadelphia, we aren't even playing the same game. So many clubs—some historically more successful than our Hajduk Split—are now just hovering on the fringes of European football because they simply can't compete financially with those few "monsters" from the big five leagues. Look at the Netherlands, for example; their population is four times larger than ours, they're economically much stronger, and look at their clubs like Ajax, PSV, and Feyenoord. They used to be giants, even European champions, and now every mediocre side from the top leagues treats them like a pushover. You just have to accept it: we live in a different era where cash dictates everything.
As for yesterday's match, all I can say is that I feel proud to be a Hajduk supporter. The applause and the chanting for the players felt completely spontaneous. It showed me that the fans recognized the players gave it their absolute all; they saw that what happened yesterday was the absolute ceiling for this young squad. Obviously, none of us are walking away happy with the scoreline, but if everyone only cared about results, we’d all just be rooting for the richest clubs in the world.
A true fan values hard work and grit. When you see that kind of commitment from the players, they deserve a round of applause regardless of what the scoreboard says.

George Lewis27 said:It’s honestly a tragedy how some people here think—it’s almost like they just dropped in from another planet. I mean, is it really that hard to see that modern soccer is entirely driven by money? When we go up against clubs with annual budgets three times larger than the entire city budget of San Francisco, we aren't exactly walking into a fair fight. A lot of clubs that were historically more successful than our Hajduk Split are currently struggling on the fringes of European soccer because they simply can't keep up financially with those massive "monsters" from the big five leagues. Take the Netherlands, for example—they have a much larger economy and a population roughly four times ours, yet their clubs like Ajax, PSV, and Feyenoord, which used to be absolute giants and European champions, now get pushed around by any mid-tier team from the top leagues. We just have to face reality: we're living in an era where money dictates everything.
Regarding yesterday's match, all I can say is that I feel incredibly proud to be a Hajduk supporter. The applause and the chanting for the players felt completely spontaneous—it was the fans recognizing that these guys truly left everything out on the pitch. It was clearly the absolute maximum you could expect from this young group right now. Obviously, none of us are thrilled with the final score, but if we judged everything solely by results, everyone would just root for the wealthiest teams in the world.
A true fan values hard work and heart, and when you see that level of commitment from the players, they deserve a round of applause regardless of what the scoreboard says.

Amen to that. Honestly, this is all I've ever wanted from Hajduk—to see the next generation playing with that same grit and leaving it all on the field. In today's modern game, the result feels like the least important part of the equation... the past is the past, we take what we have, and we keep hoping for a better future. As long as we have fans like this, we will always be a massive club!!!