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2012 British GP @ Silverstone

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Participants Jason Campbell70neonfox65Nancy Scott5Brian Campbell36Nathan Jones98Raymond Anderson4Amanda Kellydarkmarlin16stormybadger8slynomad32Tyler Bennett5hollowhawk412fadedwalker18placidsurfer9ruggedfox28Michael Lee4Hannah Allen5feralotter2Ashley Cook64Susan Kim2
Tyler Bennett5 Tyler Bennett5 Active Member
149 messages
joined May 2019
#21 ·
It’s dry for now, and I’m really crossing my fingers that it stays that way.
I’ve honestly had my fill of all this rain, the constant interruptions, the red flags, and those endless debates over whether we can actually
get out on the track or if everything's shut down...
Raymond Anderson4 Raymond Anderson4 Regular
479 messages
joined Oct 2024
#22 ·
I’m actually rooting for some rain here, mostly because I placed a bet that Sebastian Vettel would take the win. β˜•
And I've got a little extra riding on Sergio Perez finishing in the top three, too.

It wasn't a massive amount of money, but the payout is pretty decent if everything goes my way 😁.

At the end of the day, a win is a win, even if we have to sit through this race until 6:00 PM.
Tyler Bennett5 Tyler Bennett5 Active Member
149 messages
joined May 2019
#23 ·
If it means you walk away with the win, I’m more than happy to endure a rainy race and all the inevitable comments on this forum.
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 VeteranOP
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joined Jun 2017
#24 ·
Forget the race. Watching this drama unfold is way more entertaining. 🍿
Amanda Kelly Amanda Kelly Regular
360 messages
joined Mar 2008
#25 ·
Anyone seen any tire reports lately?
Does anyone know how many wets everyone has left?

What’s the total count on intermediates available to them?
hollowhawk412 hollowhawk412 Active Member
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joined Oct 2011
#26 ·
placidsurfer9 said:It’s just the truth... people are living in a total delusion... an engine with a tiny contact patch simply "slices" through the water and avoids aquaplaning entirely, which means you could cruise along at "120" on a straight without any fear of hydroplaning; plus, their track isn't some giant lake, so they actually have the ability to feel the slickness and demonstrate actual talent, whereas an F1 car with its massive footprint can find itself floating toward the barrier even at 25 miles/h if it hits a puddle, and driving at 40 mph is certainly not thrilling, nor does it allow anyone to prove who actually possesses the superior feel for grip or better wet-weather management... the guy in last would probably win because he'd actually stay on the asphalt while driving 12 miles/h 😁... the whole point of wet racing in F1 only exists when there is sufficient drainage, meaning it's excitingly wet, but not to the point where the track becomes a literal pond and aquaplaning happens every second, which is when a driver actually gets the chance to show off their skill on a slippery surface...

Do you honestly believe F1 drivers are suddenly all incompetent and spoiled just because the drainage is poor, and that somehow SOME random driver would be faster and better than them??? Look, Fernando Alonso, Sebastian Vettel, and guys like them are the very first ones to thrive in bad conditions, and they would never suggest a stoppage without good reason. I believe their assessment of the conditions is accurate and justified, because a lake is a lake, and wet is wet...

People just love to be dramatic sometimes... spinning conspiracy theories out of thin air where none exist

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101011

The world champion also backed the decision to stop the session when it was clear the conditions were impossible to drive in.

"I think it was the right call to red-flag the session. Race direction did well. And then after that i think IT was tougher for The People in The grandstands Than for US because WE ara sitting in a dry garage. For them it's a shame but that's how it is. You can't manipulate the weather."
fadedwalker18 fadedwalker18 Active Member
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joined Apr 2011
#27 ·
Raymond Anderson4 said:I’m actually crossing my fingers for some rain; I placed a bet at the sportsbook that Sebastian Vettel would take the win. β˜•
And I’ll bet my bottom dollar we see Perez land a spot on the podium.

The stakes weren't particularly high, but the payoff was certainly worth the effort.😁.

At the end of the day, money talksβ€”even if the race drags on until 6:00 PM.

I’m rooting for us both to hit the jackpot with our bets. Personally, I've got my eyes on Lewis Hamilton, the Pastor, Sergio Perez, and the wild card Eric Vergne. In my book, those are the prime candidates for a collision right at the starting line. If any of them drop out early, it opens up some massive payout opportunities, especially if we step up the stakes.

β˜•
placidsurfer9 placidsurfer9 Member
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joined May 2008
#28 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:Back in the day, maybe 20 or 30 years ago, the cars had crappy tires, the aero was way less efficient, and drivers were basically using their right foot on a cable just to control the throttle butterfly. They were shifting gears with basic manual gearboxes and standard clutches, too. Those cars were absolute beasts at the end of the dayβ€”just raw machines that demanded everything from a driver physically and mentally. Drivers were rocking these cheap plastic helmets with flimsy visors, and track drainage? I guess that was just some abstract concept they barely thought about back then.

Yeah, I get what you mean. They had worse aerodynamics, relying more on mechanical grip than today’s carsβ€”which are probably even harder to drive. So it makes sense... modern cars lean so heavily on aero that when speeds drop significantly, they lose all that downforce, which kills the grip. And they're lighter, too. As for the tires, it all comes down to the compound, which is mostly about feel. How much water they displace is a whole different story and might depend more on the tread patterns rather than the rubber itself. The main thing is avoiding aquaplaning, but honestly, it's hard to say if things were actually worse back then since it really depends on the specific track. I mean, we can't even tell what kind of drainage a track has just by looking. I agree with the rest, thoughβ€”driving in the wet was harder, shifting was a pain, and it was just more exhausting... that's just a fact. We're getting into territory where nobody can really be certain, and I guess nowadays they have better data based on how the cars behave. I wouldn't call the drivers spoiled, and I don't think it's just the FIA being unreasonable, because they usually act in unison when deciding to stop a race. It’s not for nothing, and I guess we aren't exactly experts here either.
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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joined Aug 2018
#29 ·
Based on the forecasts, looks like we won't be seeing much rain during the race...
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
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joined Oct 2009
#30 ·
They don't even need to be heavy showers... just enough rain to force them into the pits for a tire change 🍿

Personally, I wouldn't mind if it's a total washout and lasts until tonight. I've got nothing better to do, and plenty of ice cream to get me through it πŸ™‚
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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joined Nov 2015
#31 ·
Michael Lee4 said:I mean, you don't even need huge downpours... just some light sprinkles here and there to force them into the pits for a tire change🍿

Honestly, if it ends up being a total washout and the race drags on until sunset, I really wouldn't care because I've got absolutely nothing else going on today, plus I've got enough ice cream stashed away to keep me perfectly chilled outπŸ™‚

No rain in the forecast for now, though.

And I've got my own dessert situation going on too 😁, some wild berry vanilla punch flavorπŸ‘‹
Hannah Allen5 Hannah Allen5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#32 ·
I was wondering if anyone might know where I could find a TEXT-BASED live blog for the race and maybe post a link here? I mean, I can manage to pull up this video stream, but my internet connection is honestly pretty pathetic right now πŸ™‚
feralotter2 feralotter2 Member
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joined Nov 2012
#33 ·
darkmarlin16 said:no rain just yet.

I've got my own little treat πŸ˜β€”wild berry, vanilla, and punch πŸ‘‹

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I want a treat too image

Honestly, I hope they throw a few drops down thereβ€”just enough to spice things up for the race.😁
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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joined Nov 2015
#34 ·
Petrov’s already kicked the bucket 🀣
Michael Lee4 Michael Lee4 Regular
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joined Oct 2009
#35 ·
Jeremy Phillips94 said:Anyone got a link to a live text commentary for the race? I can find the video stream, but my internet is absolute garbage right now.πŸ™‚

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18756543

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/formul...2012/race.html
Hannah Allen5 Hannah Allen5 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#36 ·
Michael Lee4 said:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18756543

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/formul...2012/race.html

Thanks πŸ‘
Ashley Cook64 Ashley Cook64 Active Member
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joined Dec 2004
#37 ·
I actually died laughing🀣 I turned on the ORF and there they areβ€”standing right in front of the McLaren garage while the mechanics...

just practicing their pit stops πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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joined Apr 2013
#38 ·
What on earth happened to this sun? Has the rain simply vanished from the face of the earth? πŸ˜•
feralotter2 feralotter2 Member
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joined Nov 2012
#39 ·
Brian Campbell36 said:Where did all the rain go? It’s nothing but sunshine now. πŸ˜•

Have you even been watching any of the US Open?
Brian Campbell36 Brian Campbell36 Active Member
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joined Apr 2013
#40 ·
feralotter2 said:Have you even been following the US Open at all?

I have, though I was under the impression they had predicted rain for the entire day.πŸ˜•

edit: what on earth is happening with Fernando Alonso? He's absolutely destroying those tires.

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