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Admin, please look into the fake visions from Blessed Parsifal again

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ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#21 ·
Susan Price30 said:Maybe you missed the point—because the point isn't really about who someone believes in or represents (whether in real life or just in this digital space), as long as they actually practice and show tolerance for diversity. (In other words, a person's views only become an issue the moment they suggest intolerance; otherwise, it's just their own private business.)

So, one could be a religious person and still believe that everyone else (the others) has every right to be exactly who they are or whoever they want to be—take a Muslim, for example, who doesn't impose his beliefs on anyone or start personal wars with people; he keeps to himself and respects others. I’d say that’s a pretty ideal attitude for any moderator, especially in a forum dedicated to Religion.

On the flip side, if a moderator lacks even the most basic tolerance for diversity—or worse, if they're acting out of some personal grudge and being outright ANTAGONISTIC—well, you have to wonder what on earth someone like that is doing in a moderator position in the first place.

* Regarding the problem you're bringing up here: of course—if one side is aggressively attacking using every means at their disposal, then the other side is going to defend themselves just as fiercely. That's exactly why we need a moderator who stays level-headed and cool, 😉rather than someone who just ends up adding fuel to the fire.

Just let me explain briefly why I'm jumping into this thread. I was referring to a specific post or link that you saw yourself, and that's what I was reacting to.

I'm quoting this so it makes sense to everyone else:

I'm not fueled by hate; I'm angry. I'm angry because since I was a kid, I've felt this constant pressure to "fit in with the herd." I'm angry because I've been discriminated against my whole life due to my beliefs. I'm angry because thanks to a government that has basically handed over control to Vatican dictators, no one has ever even tried to offer me any protection. I'm angry because, from the pulpit, I'm constantly branded as immoral or a potential criminal, and my lifestyle is judged even though I've never harmed a soul—all while they try to shut me up by labeling me a purveyor of hate. I'm angry because they seize every opportunity to turn their worldview into federal law, forcing me to dance to their tune whether I like it or not. I'm angry for my friends who struggle well into adulthood with feelings of fear and shame instilled in them during childhood, and for those who were stoned, cast out, and harassed because of their sexual orientation—all while receiving applause from the pulpit and comments saying they deserved it. I'm angry because they are parasitizing the taxpayers' money. I'm furious when they try to explain to me how my wife's role is "predestined" to be a housewife and that she shouldn't selfishly pursue a career instead of staying home to raise kids.

And no, there is no "cure" for me. There's nothing that will calm me down or silence me as long as the Church keeps reaching its tentacles into both society and my private life. Who knows? Maybe all of us are feeling more angry these days, and maybe I'll live long enough to finally feel a little peace...


I don't see anything—absolutely nothing—repressive in this statement. I completely agree with his stance and I find myself in his words.
I truly think that with this statement, ego isn't threatening anyone; if anything, he's creating space for everyone, both in person and online.
Why not just let him express his feelings instead of judging him for them? Isn't it better for him to write down what he feels rather than picking up a weapon and attacking innocent people? He isn't suggesting any intolerance; on the contrary, he's just venting everything that frustrates so many of us, and I tip my hat to him for having the courage to say what he feels. Honestly, I think he has more tolerance for diversity than you and Morgan Rodriguez57 combined.
Kudos to the forum staff for posting this in such a sensitive space—it’s clearly a spot for people who feel things deeply. If you had tagged Morgan Rodriguez57 and you, we all know exactly how much drama this would have stirred up.
Susan Price30, I’ve known you for years, and I’ve known Morgan Rodriguez57 just as long. Honestly, I can't even quote you two anymore because you both just get under my skin. Let me be blunt here—no sugarcoating—you two are really testing my patience. It's not that ego isn't being friendly; he's just expressing an opinion that actually resonates with me—which is a far cry from you and Morgan Rodriguez57, who seem hell-bent on sterilizing this forum until it feels like some bland, sanitized ivory tower. I don't particularly care how you perceive one particular moderator or what kind of feelings you hold toward him. What I care about is what a moderator thinks and how they choose to express those thoughts.
In this specific instance, if you ask me, ego is simply voicing what a lot of people are feeling—not everyone, obviously, but many. And I honestly don't see why you and Morgan Rodriguez57 are so determined to strip away his right to speak his mind at any cost.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
304 messages
joined Feb 2017
#22 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:That’s why we shouldn't use accusations like "arbitrariness" or "capriciousness." We all have our flaws; nobody is a perfect machine.

Everything should be resolved with goodwill and friendship. This is our shared forum, a community that means a lot to many of us. It certainly means a great deal to me, as I've spent a significant part of my life here. Therefore, everyone needs to do their best—both you, Susan Price30, and ego—so we can resolve this "issue" together. Everything should be settled peacefully and without harsh language. Thank you.


It's easy for you to say—you don't have a stake in this like some of us do.😁

Jokes aside... but I wrote "just because" out of whim because giving anyone that many points goes against the rules. Sorry rowdyhawk10 (to everyone), and happy holidays to you.

@ ironseal10, Morgan Rodriguez57 was a moderator for Ljes, by the way, and was a very good, mild-mannered mod. Since I've moderated Religion and (later) Literature on two different forums, those claims about someone's "intolerance" or "papal arrogance" just don't hold water...

And one more thing: I don't think tolerance or being open minded is proven when you support someone who agrees with you, but rather when you argue your own point or accept a differing view without insults or mockery, right?
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#23 ·
ironseal10 said:...

Why can't we just let him express how he feels instead of judging him for it? Wouldn't it be better to actually hear his thoughts rather than picking up a metaphorical weapon and going after a bunch of innocent people? He isn't suggesting any kind of intolerance—quite the opposite, really—he’s just voicing everything that frustrates so many of us, and honestly, I tip my hat to him for having the guts to say what's on his mind... I think he actually shows more tolerance toward diversity than you and Morgan Rodriguez57 combined.
Kudos to the forum staff for putting such a sensitive topic on a board filled with people who feel things just as deeply as he does. If they had posted Morgan Rodriguez57 and you instead, we all know exactly where this would have ended up...
Susan Price30, I've known you for years, and I've known Morgan Rodriguez57 just as long. I can't even quote you guys anymore—you both just get so tiresome... Honestly, without sugarcoating it, you're both driving me up the wall. It's not even that ego isn't being friendly, it's just expressing an opinion that, at least for me, hits close to home... unlike you and Morgan Rodriguez57, who seem intent on sterilizing this whole forum until it turns into some bland, papal echo chamber. I don't really care how you perceive one particular moderator or what feelings you hold against him... What matters to me is what a moderator thinks and how they choose to express those thoughts.
In this specific instance, if you ask me, ego is just speaking for a lot of people—not everyone, obviously... And I don't see why you and Morgan Rodriguez57 are so determined to strip away his right to speak his mind at any cost?

So someone else's thoughts and feelings are somehow more valuable than anyone else's?... If Morgan Rodriguez57 expressed similar sentiments, he'd be banned in a heartbeat... and when Morgan Rodriguez57 presents actual facts and evidence, his posts get wiped and he gets slapped with a fifty-dollar fine...

Man, I knew it... I was right all along, wasn't I? You guys practically admit it—you're just a few steps away from grabbing guns yourselves... 😲 🙏

You don't get it at all... Morgan Rodriguez57 basically proved, through this whole situation, exactly how Ljes views the forum and its democratic nature... Believe it or not... I could handle all sorts of complaints, but censorship and bans? Never...☕
ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#24 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:It feels like some people's thoughts and feelings carry way more weight than everyone else's around here... if Morgan Rodriguez57 tried to express anything even remotely similar, they'd be banned instantly. But then, when Morgan Rodriguez57 lays out actual facts and evidence to back up their stance—boom—their posts get wiped and they get slapped with a massive fifty-point penalty.

Well, I told you so—turns out I was right after all. Honestly, you guys could really use to pick up some gear if you want to actually stand a chance, especially since you're all basically admitting how unprepared you are... 😲 🙏

You really don't get it... take Morgan Rodriguez57, for instance—they actually proved through their work moderating Ljes exactly how they view this forum and the whole idea of democracy. Believe it or not, it was pretty eye-opening. I could have come up with plenty of other things to nitpick, but censorship and bans? Never once. ☕

Go ahead and point out just one single insult in his post—just quote one! And please, stop playing the victim. You aren't anyone's victim, and you’re a former moderator now. Nobody is being tolerant of you anymore—it's just not happening. Do you even realize that Strikalica and promatrac were the ones who gave them to me? $333 Is this really all because of that one single link—and what I sent to Seratorka via both her TV and her private messages?
Look, she’s a professional news anchor on a major network—I’m just an average user. That’s the reality of it. So if you want to sit there complaining and playing the victim after being part of this community for ten years, that's on you. 😍
It looks like nobody else is willing to step up and take charge except you and Susan Price30. Honestly, people like the two of you are exactly why half the country ends up being misled—it all comes down to that blind faith. You used to be Ljes's moderator, and now you’re suddenly trying to lecture us on morality? It’s pretty clear you haven't learned a single thing during your ten years on this forum—if anything, you've just completely changed your tune.😍So, tell me—since when exactly did you become censored? 🙂
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#25 ·
Honestly, I’m still just as much of a deviant as ever—nothing has really changed on that front... 😉 😍
ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#26 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I’m still just as much of a deviant as ever—nothing has changed... 😉 😍

🤣I know. Honestly, I haven't changed much either—I still have a huge thing for guys exactly like you.🤣

😘
Jason Clark7 Jason Clark7 Member
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joined Nov 2012
#27 ·
ironseal10 said:Allow me just a moment to explain my reasons for joining this discussion... I was simply responding to a specific post and a link that you had already seen, and I felt compelled to offer my perspective on it...

I am quoting this so that others might find it easier to follow...

It isn't hatred that drives me; it is pure, unadulterated anger. I have been angry since I was a child, fueled by the constant pressure to conform to the "herd." I have faced discrimination my entire life simply because of my convictions. Because this country surrendered its sovereignty to the dictates of religious extremists, no one has ever bothered to offer me any semblance of protection. I am angry because, from the pulpit, I am constantly branded as immoral or a potential criminal—my lifestyle judged despite the fact that I have never caused harm to a soul—all while they attempt to silence me by labeling me a hater. It infuriates me that they seize every opportunity to codify their narrow worldview into federal law, forcing me to dance to their tune whether I like it or not. I feel a deep resentment for my friends, who struggle well into adulthood against the fear and shame instilled in them during childhood. I am angry for those who have been cast out, bullied, and persecuted for their sexual orientation, only to receive applause from the altar and comments claiming they deserved it. I am angry because they parasitize the American taxpayer. And I am livid when people try to explain to me that my wife’s destiny is strictly confined to the home, suggesting she should abandon her career ambitions just to stay behind and raise children...

There is no cure for this. There isn't anything that can truly quiet my mind or bring me peace as long as the church continues to thrust its influence into our social fabric and my own private life. It seems everyone is reaching a breaking point of anger... perhaps I will live to see the day when I can finally find some semblance of calm...


I fail to see anything remotely repressive in this statement... I find myself in complete agreement with his position, and I resonate deeply with his stance...
I believe that by making this statement, ego isn't threatening anyone at all; rather, he is simply opening up space for everyone, whether in person or online...
Shouldn't we allow him the space to express his feelings rather than condemning him for them? Wouldn't it be far better for someone to simply articulate their emotions instead of picking up a weapon and slaughtering innocent people... He isn't suggesting any kind of intolerance; on the contrary, he is merely voicing the very things that cause so many of us such profound frustration. For that reason, I truly respect him for having the courage to write exactly what is on his mind. In my view, he possesses far more tolerance for diversity than you and Morgan Rodriguez57 combined...
Kudos to the forum moderators for posting this on such a sensitive thread, especially given how deeply invested everyone here is... If you had included Morgan Rodriguez57 and you, we all know exactly where this would have ended up...
Susan Price30, I have known you for years, as well as I have known Morgan Rodriguez57. I simply cannot deal with either of you anymore; you have both become utterly exhausting. To be perfectly honest, without any sugarcoating, you are both getting on my last nerve. My ego isn't being unfriendly; rather, I am expressing an opinion that aligns with my own views, which stand in direct opposition to yours and Morgan Rodriguez57's desire to sterilize this forum and turn it into some sort of papal hierarchy... I am not concerned with how you perceive a certain moderator or what personal feelings you harbor toward him. My only interest lies in what a moderator actually thinks and the manner in which he chooses to express those thoughts...
In this specific instance, I believe ego is simply giving voice to what many people are feeling... though certainly not everyone. And I fail to see why you and Morgan Rodriguez57 are so determined to strip him of his right to speak at any cost...

There is a significant difference between simply having the right to hold a position and being granted the authority of a supermod on the Religion forum... I mean, honestly... 😵

I suppose you have every right to feel bitter toward the sport and its players, and perhaps even frustrated or insecure regarding their massive salaries, but to publicly air those grievances while judging the Champions League final like that... honestly... 😍
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
304 messages
joined Feb 2017
#28 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I’m still a degenerate; nothing has changed... 😉 😍

Yeah, just get on with it... not everyone needs to know everything. 🤣

As long as you don't have a gun in your closet, it's fine. 🙂

By the way, I finished my part because I figure they'll either delete this or close the thread any second now.

Peace.
ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#29 ·
Jason Clark7 said:there's a massive difference between having an opinion and being a moderator for the Religion subforum—I mean, seriously? 😵

Look, you're totally entitled to be pissed off at football or the players—it’s fine to feel frustrated or even a little salty about those insane salaries they pull in—but taking that public and trying to judge the Champions League final like that? Come on... 😍

I honestly thought since it was Sepp Blatter, anything went?🤣
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#30 ·
Susan Price30 said:It’s easy for you to say that—you don't have to deal with a part-time schedule like we do.😁
Setting that aside... I guess I did write "i"I suppose there's some truth to what Jason Clark7 was saying about the situation. It feels like we're just circling the drain at this point.Giving anyone that many points just isn't according to the rules. My apologies to rowdyhawk10 (for everyone), and I hope you have a pleasant holiday season.

Everything is fine, and I apologize if I said anything to offend you. Thank you for the well wishes, and I hope you have a happy holiday season as well.
I wasn't aware that you were also a Parsifal follower. I only just noticed it after looking through your profile and reading your thread. Greetings.
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#31 ·
Just a quick note regarding this thread. I don't intend to dwell on the Parsifal situation for too long. I’ve stated my position, and I’ve done my best to be clear without being offensive to anyone. I assume ego understood my point, so there really isn't much need for me to repeat myself. We are all adults here, I suppose, so hopefully we can all move past these trivial grievances. It's probably best if we just rise above them.

ego, man, it's all on you now. Personally, I still have faith in you. 🙂 Best,
steelskipper5 steelskipper5 Active Member
176 messages
joined Feb 2010
#32 ·
Jason Clark7 said:

Is this answer just you acting on your own whim—just like with the Religion PDF partials? I mean, aren't we always supposed to check with the admins regarding any actions on this forum? We've always been told nothing happens without a "consensus from all the PDF mods," right?🤔

And look, removing partials requires consensus too.
ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#33 ·
Susan Price30 said:@ ironseal10, just so you know—Morgan Rodriguez57 was actually a moderator for the literature section, and he was a really solid, easygoing mod. Plus, I’ve moderated both Religion and Literature on two different forums, so all this talk about someone being "intolerant" or acting with "papal arrogance" just doesn't hold up...

And another thing: I don't think being tolerant or open minded means just backing up people who agree with you—it's more about how you argue your own point or (without getting insulting or mocking) accepting a perspective that's different from yours, right?

I'm sorry, I didn't see this yesterday! I know Morgan Rodriguez57 better than anyone.🙂 Do you want me to send you his playlist?😍 He taught me so much.😍
As for now, I can't really get involved in moderating ego since I don't follow him and I don't visit the religion section anymore.
Honestly, you guys are the ones who drove me away from the religion board—you just can't have a serious discussion there. You turn Religion into a joke and a battlefield, so no tolerant person is going to hang out there.
To be fair, I really don't know how he treats other users. If he's behaving the way you described in this post, then of course his behavior is inappropriate and not allowed.
I was only referring to one specific post, and I only jumped in here because of that one single comment—nothing more.
Susan Price30 Susan Price30 Regular
304 messages
joined Feb 2017
#34 ·
Sorry, I didn't catch this yesterday. I know Morgan Rodriguez57 better than anyone. Do you want me to just drop his playlist here? He’s taught me quite a bit.
As for now, I can't really step into moderating ego since I don't follow him or visit Religion.

I can't speak for everyone else, but calling out me and Morgan Rodriguez57 like that—plus those comments about someone having the potential to "kill people"—is way beyond an apology. Honestly, they should get a red card for that; it isn't funny or even remotely okay. (Especially considering others have been slapped with 50-point penalties for much less.) And please, don't address me directly; I have no idea who you are...

rowdyhawk10 said:Just a quick word regarding this thread. I don't intend to dwell on the whole Parsifal situation. I've stated my piece and tried to be clear without being offensive. I believe ego understood my point, so there's no need for me to repeat myself. We are all adults here, and I hope we can all move past these petty issues. It's more dignified to rise above them.

I feel the same way, though my reason for posting here was to ensure the new administration—who might not be fully aware of certain history—eventually reviews things that those of us on Religion know happened but were never corrected... specifically, looking into who banned certain users who contributed so much to Religion. If those bans were done unilaterally instead of in consultation with the other mods, then maybe that's why things played out the way they did... (that's just a thought, anyway).
ironseal10 ironseal10 Member
10 messages
joined Jan 2013
#35 ·
I honestly think we’re overcomplicating this—it really isn't that deep if you just look at the facts. People love to get caught up in the drama, but when you strip away all the noise, the core issue remains exactly the same. It’s pretty straightforward—certain things just work better than others, and that's a reality we have to accept. I've always believed that once you stop looking for excuses, the answer becomes obvious—and in this case, it definitely does. Let's just keep things simple and move forward.

I honestly think we need to stop overcomplicating this—it’s really quite straightforward if you look at the bigger picture. I was chatting with Jason Clark7 about this the other day, and we both felt that people tend to get bogged down in the minor details instead of seeing the core issue. It’s like when people argue over small policy tweaks in DC when the entire foundation of the system is what actually needs attention—you know? Anyway, I’ve been following what ironseal10 has been saying, and while there's some merit there, I still lean toward the idea that we need more stability before making any big moves. We have to be careful not to let our own ego drive these decisions—that’s how things usually go sideways. Let's just stay focused and see how things unfold!
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
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joined Sep 2014
#36 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:The idea that one person's thoughts or feelings carry more weight than anyone else's... if Morgan Rodriguez57 expressed the same stuff, they'd be banned instantly. But when Morgan Rodriguez57 lays out actual facts and opinions backed by proof? Suddenly their posts get wiped and they're slapped with a massive fine...

God, I was right all along. You guys basically admitted you're ready to grab guns and go at it... 😲 🙏

Yeah, true. Just like how about three years ago you predicted there'd be massive persecutions of Catholics across Europe.

If I were Catholic, I’d nominate you for priest duty. Right this second.
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active Member
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#37 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Yeah, true—just like how about three years ago you predicted we'd see massive persecutions of Catholics across Europe.

If I were Catholic, I’d nominate you for the priesthood right this second. Seriously...

Well, what can I say, I missed my cue... 🙂

I honestly thought the bus ride from New York to Chicago to Denver to LA would be over by now, but nope... it barely made it past Denver...

We’ve reached that stage where they're trying to strip faith out of every single part of life—and next up is labeling Christianity as hate speech... it's pretty obvious at this point...

This would have happened already if it weren't for the Muslims... I mean, how could they declare Christianity hate speech? What about Islam? Those folks aren't nearly as mild-mannered as Christians—they aren't exactly the type to just turn the other cheek...

Instead, those anti-theists will probably cook up some new scheme... they haven't come this far just to quit halfway through the journey... 😉
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
604 messages
joined Sep 2014
#38 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:We're at the point where they're purging faith from every single part of life, and next up? Labeling Christianity as hate speech... it's blindingly obvious...

Great, another massive fail.

In three years, this whole thing will blow over and you'll just cook up some brand new conspiracy theory against Catholics anyway.

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