Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

Honestly, Frank Kim26, you’re totally right about how we messed up back in Indianapolis... and Megan Collins50, you were spot on when you said it wasn't even close to the atmosphere at the Stade de France, let alone any random away game
I'm talking about the Torcida Josipovac, Frank Kim26

electricotter2 said:I’d rather stay out of the debate regarding how the banner fell—it’ll just lead to another endless "what if" loop. But when it comes to that specific part? Honestly, nobody really stepped up the night before or even on game day. 😉

You aren't wrong, you hooligan.😁

It’s quite obvious that you haven't actually laid eyes on every single banner that gets dropped during a match. 😁

silverbear38 said:I mean, it's not like you've actually seen every single sign dropped during a game, right? 😁

Come on, now you're trying to talk trash too, when this guy hasn't even stepped foot in a stadium for a real match in forever? Just give me one shred of proof and I'll tip my hat to you, seriously...

ruggedowl71 said:Go ahead and try to take me down with your little jokes, but honestly, when has this person even stepped foot in a stadium to watch a game? Just show me one shred of evidence that they’ve actually witnessed a match, and I’ll gladly admit you're right... but until then, keep dreaming.

I need a distraction. Things are getting rather dull here. 🤣

Seriously, at this rate, even the local corner store clerk is going to start carrying a rag everywhere.

Jack Chavez3 said:At this rate, even the local deli is going to start wearing the team colors next.

WE ARE ALL KANSAS CITY CHIEFS!
☕

silverbear38 said:Well, clearly you haven't seen every single sign dropped during a losing game. 😁

It’s the truth... we asked for our Kansas City Chiefs back and requested help for the club—that’s what we got. You picked the board of directors, etc., etc. Then that doctor Paladino calls all the associations, the festival crowds, the cooperatives to one big meeting, and the Raiders just don't show up? Why? Maybe because all those groups are basically just agents living off the Kansas City Chiefs?? Come on, let's not be hypocrites—either we're hardcore or we're just socialites. I’m not part of those cooperatives and I never will be; I'm not saying what they do is inherently wrong, but why should I join and hand over my own $33 just to end up throwing a rocket onto the field during the next three games or pelting other fans with cannonballs and hurting my own club for a mere 300 $0.00??? It’s pure stupidity and irony—and honestly, a good chunk of fans like that are part of our Kansas City Chiefs... And regarding those banners being dropped—give me a break. What excuse is there? That the banner hasn't "seen the pitch"? So what if it hasn't? It doesn't have a grocery store logo on it; it says the Raiders. We are the only ones being blamed here, but if those gentlemen had been called out at the stadium yesterday and given a few warnings, they would've seen 400 people from the Midwest wondering what story they'd tell when they got home—they wouldn't even think about doing anything else. But that’s never going to happen, and that’s why the Raiders will always be the main event... Let's burn ourselves out before the bastards shut us down for good...🙂🙂

Frank Kim26 said:once that mess in Springfield went down, we basically lost our say in all of this...☕
p.s. which banner was it? I had no idea they even lit it on fire...

Honestly, I bet the guys from the 86 crew are actually pretty happy about what happened in Springfield. It’s almost like they think we did them a favor!
It really would be great if both sides just sat down and agreed to stop hanging those cheap tarps and makeshift banners during games. That way, nobody can ever make excuses again about why a flag fell down or why it looked trashy...

Come on, someone drop some photos so we can actually see what's going on—I'm especially curious about that burnt rag...

Douglas Martinez3 said:Come on, post some pictures so we can actually see what happened—I’m especially curious about that burnt rag...

Man, with how much people are talking about it, you'd think the independent crowd went out and torched the whole thing themselves. 🙂

I feel like we’re looking like total clowns on this scene because of those banners. Everyone else keeps them locked away, or they're carried by groups who actually have the guts to stand their ground, while we just sit here acting like it's still some outdated era where every tiny town thinks they need their own little sign. It’s honestly pretty pathetic. There isn't even any real weight behind it, but seeing a rag with the Ultras name being burned by some wannabe fan group... I guess it just looks really ugly.

And honestly, some of you guys are acting like you're clueless, pretending you don't even realize there’s this whole new manifesto about banners that basically means only the groups with actual balls can hang their stuff up and defend it, but let’s be real, this specific banner hasn't been seen anywhere, and I seriously don't get what the Ultras were supposed to do about it, like, go door-to-door all over the country asking people if they have a spare banner or something? To be totally blunt, I couldn't care less about some banner that doesn't actually mean anything anymore, because we already handled this situation the best way possible and now everyone knows exactly which banners are the real deal and which ones aren't, so that's that...

Honestly, this whole thing is just some leftover baggage from a different era—there’s really no need to make a massive scene over it... I suppose those who took it already know the score, and eventually, I probably will too. ☕

Timothy Chavez31 said:I suppose we end up looking like the biggest clowns on this pathetic scene just because of those banners. Everyone else seems to have them locked away or they’re being carried by groups who actually have the guts to stand their ground, yet here we are, acting like it's still some bygone era where every tiny town has its own little sign. It feels a bit ridiculous and honestly quite sad; while this particular one might not carry much weight, seeing a rag with the NFL Ultras name burning near some wannabe fan group just looks incredibly tacky.

A small town in the Midwest today...

http://i44.tinypic.com/24wy0zp.jpg

Sean Sullivan87 said:Just a typical day here in a small town in the Midwest...

http://i44.tinypic.com/24wy0zp.jpg

I mean, what can I even say? I wonder which banner will be the first one to get set on fire at some rival's stadium. Maybe both 🤷

We all know which ones aren't going to catch fire...

How do you actually stop someone from making a banner? Preventing them from hanging it on a fence is one thing—that’s doable. But trying to stop them from manufacturing the damn thing in the first place? That’s an impossible task. End of story...

Keith Brown80 said:Man, it feels like those Independents just went ahead and torched the whole thing because everyone wouldn't shut up about it. 🙂

Don't you dare use the Lord's name in vain.

steeltrucker said:don't go using the Lord's name in vain

Just for the sake of comparison—it doesn't really matter.