Die-hard Ultras / Hardcore Supporters

silverbear38 said:Absolute peak. That’s the only way to put it. Honestly, screw every 15-year-old kid who watches Green Street and suddenly thinks they're some hardcore Hooligan. They act like tough guys when they don't belong anywhere, just playing pretend. 🙂

Like, even in how people text?

Go to hell, all of you. Just go to hell. 😍

🙂 🙂

Kyle Davis5 said:Eat shit, honestly. Just eat shit. 😍

🙂 🙂

Go ahead and offer to pay for the seats, just like we did...

Why is anyone even bothering to address what Mamić said?

The guy seems to think things in Chicago should be just like they are in Miami. And I’m not talking about the flares or the atmosphere, or even the trophy cabinet. For a true supporter, those aren't the priority. I am talking about how the club is run, the fans fighting for transparency, and the actual relationship between the organization and its supporters. We actually managed to secure the right to democratically elect the Board of Directors, who will then select the executive leadership. Some people clearly haven't grasped the magnitude of that achievement yet. Regardless of how this Liverpool FC performs, the club belongs to us, whereas Real Madrid belongs to him. Things aren't perfectly clean yet—not by a long shot—but we are heading in the right direction.

PS. Laura Mitchell87, did the players actually come out to take a bow after the match?

Jesse Campbell said:I suppose I should say that this whole hopeless mess and the sheer spite directed at the fan groups might actually end up having a positive effect. It’s like that guy mentioned in that one documentary about the Mexicans and their supporters—if the team is failing on the field, we simply cannot afford to lose our footing in the stands. And speaking of Mexicans, just look at how much the Gypsies have grown since they started looking over their shoulders at Partisan...
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Laura, if you really want to play it that way, we could apply that backward logic too—implying the club has to be worse just to attract more fans... I mean, some people will argue that good results are what draw crowds in the first place... It doesn't really matter how we ended up in this current situation... but right now, we are better than you guys (in my opinion, anyway), and whether that changes remains to be seen... but for now, that is the reality I was attempting to present to my previous interlocutor above....

Jesse Campbell said:I had about five people from either side of town tell me we absolutely crushed you guys in terms of atmosphere...

Look, I’m not really interested in these playground arguments, but I have to address this massive ego trip you're on.😍
Last night, five different Real Madrid fans—three from the north side and two from the south—told me the exact opposite happened.😉
Honestly, I think you're just hearing exactly what you want to hear, and frankly, it sounds like you might be making things up.

Laura Mitchell87, you are seriously such a massive complex... honestly, saying the club being trash actually helps the fan base is just some delusional positivity, and while maybe it makes you feel closer as a group, it sure as hell doesn't help your numbers, and let's be real, you guys aren't even some elite squad of supporters because half of you weren't even chanting for like 25 or 30 minutes straight... you're out here acting like you won some huge war against Manchester City, but the guy is still running the show, he’s still at the club doing whatever he wants, so you're basically just following his lead anyway since you can't even organize a simple choreo, and you have the nerve to say you already won this battle? once Mamić finally leaves, your numbers might bump up by maybe ten percent and that'll be about it

I honestly still can't wrap my head around this whole mindless debate you guys are having... I mean, look at this Narcos thief who doesn't even have the guts to show his face, yet he’s out here calling everyone out—including you lot—just to hide the fact that he's dodging his own bills...

Forget it, seriously... screw all of us... football is completely broken, people are just totally fed up with the whole thing... and here we are, bickering over who cheered the loudest?

Harold Kim5 said:Laura Mitchell87, we could use reverse logic too—saying a club is worse just because they have more fans... Or someone could argue that winning is what brings the crowds in... Doesn't matter how we got here... right now we’re better than you guys (in my book), whether that changes is anyone's guess... but that's the reality I was laying out for the guy above....

Obviously. Your best year won't happen until Liverpool FC finally pulls something off. Even now, this whole "spite" thing just happened to line up with the club's centennial and some other stuff. Liverpool has been trash for years—so bad that even Real Madrid eats them for breakfast... The fans see that and want to help however they can, through showing up and giving support...

Don't forget the NFL Ultras have been grinding hard and you can see the results. But honestly, and I think most Hooligans feel this way, you guys jumped into a compromise with Kerum and his crew way too fast...

Better days are coming, though. Narcos is heading out, and the USSF mafia is too. Maybe even Seattle will join the title hunt once they get some cash, and I think things will look up across the board. Both on the pitch and in the stands...

they're just idols to one another

Jesse Campbell said:I mean, talk about zero loyalty to the club, right? Especially since you guys were basically just hanging out in Chicago when Liverpool FC actually had a shot at winning something. It’s wild because you were actually leading until the very end of the match. That’s kind of like if Real Madrid was leading against FC Barcelona.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that this whole hopeless situation—and all this spite directed at the supporters—might actually end up being a good thing. Like, in that one documentary about Mexican ultras, there's this guy who says if the team is losing on the field, we can't afford to lose in the stands. And speaking of Mexicans, just look at how much the Gypsies have grown ever since they started watching Partisan struggle...

Then again, we've got this situation where the club is so dominant that the football rivalry with you guys isn't even a rivalry anymore. You're as tense with us as Inter Milan is with Newark. Plus, Narcos has completely trashed the club's image, and people find it really hard to identify with Manchester City. No matter how hard they try...

Seriously, though, the cheering was pathetic. Just typical for you guys in like 90% of the derbies. I had like five people from the east or west stands tell me we totally outshined you in terms of support...

Last time it was just a dream, but if you keep posting stuff like this, you'll be getting more than just a little trouble, you hear me?☕

Anonymous said:I’m not really in the mood for this playground bickering, but I have to address this massive ego trip😍
last night, five Real Madrid fans—three from one side of the stands and two from the other—told me the exact opposite😉
and honestly, I think you’re just hearing what you want to hear. You might even be lying to yourself.

🤣🤣🤣

Laura Mitchell87, look, you're actually right about some stuff, I'll give you that, but this whole thing is just getting ridiculous now... please, just don't feel like you have to post here every single time you get an urge, because it honestly just leads to fifty more mindless comments from idiots...

Nathan Lewis said:I honestly still can't wrap my head around this stupid argument you guys are having... here comes some Narcos thief who shouldn't even be allowed to speak, calling you all out while hiding his own shady business behind those fancy seats...

Man, forget all of you and all of us... football is completely broken. People are just sick of the whole thing... and here we are, fighting over who cheered the loudest?

Exactly! Setting aside all of Laura Mitchell87's nonsense and how she's trying to sugarcoat everything, I'm focused on something else. You mentioned on the BBB forums that Mamić is finished, and I'm convinced of that too. But I don't think the fight is truly won unless he’s kicked out of Maksimir with criminal charges in his pocket and some kind of lifetime ban from the sport. Would you guys be willing to compromise if that happens?
If you ask me, he’ll go because of politics and the massive drop in value of his assets, not because of any of you...

Jesse Campbell said:Of course. Your best year won't actually happen until Liverpool FC finally manages to pull something off. But even now, this whole spiteful narrative just happened to coincide with the club's centennial and a few other things. Liverpool FC has been terrible for a long stretch of years—so bad, in fact, that even Real Madrid, who aren't exactly great themselves, eats them for breakfast... The people see that, and they want to help however they can, through their physical presence and their support...

I suppose one shouldn't forget that the NFL Ultras have been working hard too, and you can see the results. However, I think—and this is what a large portion of the Hooligans believe—that you all reached a compromise with Kerum and his associates far too easily...

Better times might be on the horizon, though. The Narcos era is winding down, as is the USSF mafia. Maybe even Seattle will join the title hunt once they have some actual cash, and I suppose everything might turn out for the better. Both for the football and for the supporters...

An X for everything written here...

The core issue is restoring a normal league. You guys are definitely rising up, and I imagine the entire MLS could only go uphill from here... because we've already hit rock bottom...

I feel like I’ve dropped a ton of posts today just laying out the facts, and honestly, this is my last one for now, but man... no matter how hard I try to make a point, nobody is ever going to top Mamić