New fan laws: What do we think?

Honestly, every time there’s a high-risk game announced, my family comes home and asks if I’m planning to go. If I say no, they make me sign some paperwork... I have to wonder, what kind of crowd am I part of?...

It all stems from that massive mess back in '86 orchestrated by the authorities in Chicago, where the main culprit—who was actually convicted in a court of law—was John Doe. It’s honestly absurd. Imagine telling your mommy you’re going to be just a little bit late getting home so she won't worry about you being out alone, only to end up not walking through that front door again for six or seven months. It's just madness...🎉Beyond that, what happens regarding the statutes of limitations? Isn't it my understanding that after roughly four or ten years, these things are no longer legally recognized? Furthermore, once you've finished serving your sentence, you can petition a court for a clean record, but that doesn't seem to carry much weight with the police. If that's the case, even former felons could potentially walk around with permits for hunting rifles.

I’m just reading this on some random forum—it's basically my only source right now—so I’m guessing they finally leaked something. But seriously, what kind of fan laws allow someone to get slapped with a lifetime ban from both MLS and the national team?

Timothy Ramos26 said:I'm just reading this on a random forum—it's basically my only info source—so I'm assuming they leaked something. But seriously, under what kind of fan laws does someone get slapped with a lifetime ban from MLS and national team games?

Where is that even written? Is there actually some specific part of the law that says someone can be banned from stadiums for life?

One gets a ticket to see an MLS match, while the rest of us are stuck watching a game of dodgeball.

I’ve been sitting here wondering how I missed the details on those new fan laws... Honestly, if it's actually true that someone could just cut a deal to avoid jail time 🤔

So, I was reading somewhere that the media totally botched the reporting on this. Apparently, they're saying the ban for the Kansas City Chiefs and the national team is only for a year. Honestly, I don't see how anyone could justify a lifetime ban based on what happened... But then again, I'm just getting all this from news reports, so who knows...

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We honestly don't deserve anything better than this mess we're in. If you look at all the supporter groups combined, you could count the people actually interested in changing the fan law on one hand.

Exactly. There’s just this total lack of interest... combined with a general sense of apathy, and fan laws that somehow always get weirder and more restrictive. I mean, does anyone actually know a decent lawyer who handles basic legal info? Someone you could just hire on an hourly basis or as a consultant for specific cases?...

Hey everyone, I have a quick question here, but please—only chime in if you are absolutely certain about what you’re saying or if you’ve actually dealt with this firsthand...
I'm trying to figure out if it's even possible to get a certificate from the municipal court stating that I have no pending criminal charges while there is an active case currently being processed against me.

I heard a rumor somewhere that you can always request this kind of clearance regardless of whether a case is ongoing or if there's already a final judgment on your record. Apparently, the document would just explicitly state that a proceeding is currently underway, but the point is, can you actually obtain the certificate itself just by submitting the formal request?

Christian Miller48 said:Hey guys, quick question. Only answer me if you actually know what you're talking about or have dealt with this personally...
I'm wondering if I can get a clearance certificate from the municipal court stating I have no criminal record while there's an active criminal case against me?

I heard you can always request one regardless of whether a case is ongoing or if there's a final judgment, but the document would just state the status mentioned above. So, basically, can you get the certificate itself just by submitting the request...?

You can request it, but it’ll show that a case is pending. Though, sometimes it might show nothing at all... and once you get a final judgment, it might come back blank again...

Scott Moore59 said:You can try checking, but even if there’s an active case, it might not show up at all... and sometimes, once you actually get the verdict, it still won't be listed in the system.

Gotcha. Do you happen to know what kind of situation would result in nothing showing up? Is it based on how serious the criminal charge is, or something else?

Thanks for the help!

Christian Miller48 said:Hey guys, I have a question. Please only chime in if you are 100% sure about what you're saying or if you've actually dealt with this yourself...
I want to know if it's possible to get a certificate from the municipal court stating there's no criminal record if there's currently an active criminal case against me?

I heard somewhere that you can always request this certificate regardless of whether there's an ongoing case or a final judgment, but the document would just state the details mentioned above. Basically, can I just submit the request and get the paper?

Don't go asking the court where your case is actually being handled if you have another option available.😁

Do you really think that would make much of a difference, especially considering we're looking at a case that's already three years old—back when the indictment was first filed? But regardless, I’ve got another option in mind 😁

Christian Miller48 said:Do you honestly think that would make any difference? Especially when we're looking at a case that's already three years old—the indictment was filed ages ago. But hey, whatever. I've got an alternative plan anyway. 😁

Look, you’ve got it backward. Your case is being handled at the local municipal court, but since you actually live out in Indianapolis, you need to go back home to request your clearance papers from the jurisdiction where you're considered "clean."

I just picked up some paperwork over on Fifth Avenue, and according to this document, there's no active case against me. But then, I talk to this woman who tells me if I had actually gone down to the Palace of Justice, it would show up as an open matter... all while the whole thing is supposedly being handled in a completely different city, even though the indictment hasn't even been officially confirmed yet ☕ ... honestly, it feels like they don't have a single clue what's actually going on themselves

Christian Miller48 said:I went down to the office on Fifth Avenue to get confirmation, and they told me there’s no record of anything, yet this woman at the desk insists that if I had actually gone down to the Palace of Justice, it would show up there... meanwhile, the case is apparently being handled in a completely different city, even though the indictment hasn't even been officially confirmed yet ☕ ... basically, they don't have a clue what's actually happening

It isn't a bad idea to just request that confirmation through the online portal; if the results come back unfavorable, it's easy enough to just head over to the correct court and deal with it then.

Here’s a bit of a situation unfolding for those following along: Entity>

nimbleranger17 said:Here is a quick update:

At first glance, I honestly thought this article was from fifteen years ago.