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mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#21 ·
Jason Campbell70, you really should be the last person on this forum weighing in on a matter like this. ☕
Instead of just taking the hint after we let you back in following that ban, you’re actually trying to lecture us? 👎

Honestly, you've just managed to burn whatever tiny shred of credibility you had left with me. 🙂
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active MemberOP
53 messages
joined Jul 2009
#22 ·
I was half-expecting Jason Campbell70 to show up since so many other subforum regulars have already made an appearance, but I was secretly hoping he might actually offer something constructive. It’s easy to see why he’d struggle to support Mamin on a personal level; their long-standing feud has basically defined the drama on this board for ages. However, I’d argue that Jason Campbell70’s own history actually supports the idea of Mamin’s return. After his lengthy ban, he was given a second chance and came back to Formula 1 as a much more disciplined contributor. He hasn't caused a single headache since. That’s the logic the rest of us are leaning on—that we could see the same evolution here. 🙏
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#23 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:I figured Jason Campbell70 might show up since so many other subforum regulars did, but I was secretly hoping he’d actually be supportive. Look, I get it—on a personal level, it’s tough for him to back Mamin when their whole feud basically defined the drama on this board. But honestly? Jason Campbell70’s own history is the best argument for Mamin’s return. After being banned for a long stretch, Jason Campbell70 got a second chance and came back to Formula 1 as a much better contributor. No more issues. That’s what the rest of us are betting will happen with Mamin too. 🙏

You're probably right. It's hard to imagine anyone being a bigger jerk than Jason Campbell70. 🙂
Dana Reyes5 Dana Reyes5 Member
23 messages
joined Jul 2010
#24 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:I’ll keep this brief—we have seen Mamin play the martyr far too many times already.
:

Look, regardless of what you say, your arguments are sharp, but we aren't here to debate whether someone deserves forgiveness. We are looking for a handout.
In other words, we want a gift, despite everything else.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#25 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:I was honestly expecting Jason Campbell70 might show up, seeing as so many other subforum regulars have already made an appearance. I suppose I was secretly hoping he’d take a more positive stance on the whole thing. It makes sense, though—on a personal level, it must be tough for him to back Mamin, given how much their specific fallout defined the drama on this board for a while. But isn't that exactly why Jason Campbell70's own journey is such a good argument for Mamin's return? After being banned for quite some time, Jason Campbell70 was given a second chance and came back to Formula 1 as a much better contributor. He hasn't caused a single issue since. Most of us just believe that the same kind of thing could happen with Mamin. 🙏

Well, look, I know it's the holiday season and we're all feeling generous, but let's not kid ourselves here. 😬 🤣🤣🤣
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
1.8K messages
joined Apr 2013
#26 ·
mistybear87 said:Look, sure, it’s the holiday season, but let's not pretend here.😬 🤣🤣🤣

Exactly. Honestly, from what I can remember over the last year, Jason Campbell70 has caused way more headaches than Mamin. At least in my book.🤷

Yeah, some clones popped up, and yeah, those clones got banned—but only because they were linked to a banned user, not because they were actually out here causing trouble or posting nonsense. At least, I haven't seen any.🤷

Anyway, is there any chance for a prisoner exchange? Can we trade Pilate for Mamin?😬
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#27 ·
stormybadger8 said:That’s exactly how I see it. Honestly, from what I can recall over the last year, it feels like we’ve dealt with way more headaches involving Jason Campbell70 than we ever did with Maminh—at least as far as I’m concerned.🤷

So, this kid was out there running clones, and yeah, those accounts got banned. But let’s be real—they weren't actually kicked because they were posting nonsense or causing trouble. From what I can see, they weren't even being problematic. They were only flagged because they were linked to a user who had already been banned from the forum. It's funny how that works, isn't it? They were basically guilty by association rather than their own actions.🤷

So, I’ve been sitting here thinking... is a prisoner exchange actually on the table? I mean, could we realistically trade Jason Campbell70 to get Maminh back?
😬

I'm in. Count me in on this one. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
1K messages
joined Jun 2017
#28 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:I expected Jason Campbell70 might show up since so many other subforum members made an appearance. But I was secretly hoping he’d actually have something positive to say.

I have supported the return of mistybear87—more than once, in fact.Maminh".

Not since those days. Maminh He’s proving once again exactly how he treats people on this forum. What kind of behavior is that? forum.hr-u.

Joshua Newman2 said:I mean, it’s pretty obvious why he’d find it hard to back Maminh on a personal level. Their whole fallout basically defined the drama around this subforum, didn't it?

Our past disagreement doesn't feel relevant at all to the core issue here. Why should it be?

Currently on the subforum...Formula 1.There are a few other members on this forum I don't exactly see eye to eye with. Does that mean I lack respect for them? Not at all.
I have respect for them. They actually know what they’re talking about. Their writing is eloquent, too. Most importantly? They don't base their entire arguments on total nonsense regarding Ayrton Senna, Fernando Alonso, or other such absurdities.

Joshua Newman2 said:Jason Campbell70's situation actually supports the argument for Maminh's return. After being banned for such a long time, he was given a second chance and successfully made his way back to Formula 1. Doesn't that set a precedent? How can one become a better forum member?There were no more issues with him. It’s what the rest of us believe would have been the case with Maminh, too. 🙏

Top forum member. ☕

And he’s an honorary moderator too? What a joke. 🙏🙏🙏

And I’ll address this one as well. mistybear87:
There is one small difference between me and... Maminh..

During those two years I was hit with a partial ban, I ended up creating dozens of clone accounts just to keep posting on the Formula 1 subforum. Why wouldn't I?

Maminh is here.

Wise enough.
Steven Reed Steven Reed Regular
354 messages
joined Dec 2014
#29 ·
I’ve only ever seen Maminh clones popping up over on the NFL boards or lurking in the banned corner where he was begging for a second chance🤷
it seems like a young guy—someone clearly desperate to be part of this community—and I honestly don't get why we wouldn't give him a shot, especially since the mods are willing to vouch for him🤷 (and no, I'm not talking about that "one year later" kind of grace period)

:just an innocent bystander who can't stand permanent bans:
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
1K messages
joined Jun 2017
#30 ·
mistybear87 said:Maybe I should just hit you with a permanent ban for the whole site. Then we’ll see if you try to sneak back in with some clone accounts to haunt the Formula 1 section...

Let's try this again:

Jason Campbell70's previous post said:During those two years I was under a partial ban, I didn't create dozens of clones just to keep posting in the "Formula 1" subforum.


mistybear87 said:And if I recall correctly, the original Maminh got banned because of soccer, not

Formula 1... around here, he mostly just got warnings for off-topic posts or spam...


Didn't our dear Maminh receive a partial ban from the then-moderator of the "Formula 1" subforum? Wasn't it after he addressed her with such refined, choice language?

Language so "refined" that I felt ashamed just reading what was written. 👎
Taylor Gonzalez79 Taylor Gonzalez79 Active Member
78 messages
joined May 2008
#31 ·
Man, people are really going out of their way to attack one single spammer. Honestly, if you just want him gone, have him make a clone account—don't bother banning him from Formula 1 and calling it a day. It's not like there's some massive corporation backing Maminh anyway. ☕
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#32 ·
Taylor Gonzalez79 said:It feels like a lot of energy being spent on just one spammer. Why not just let them make a burner account? If you just ban them from the Formula 1 section, the problem is solved. It’s not like there’s some massive corporation backing the name Maminh. ☕

I suppose that might work if we didn't have "whistleblowers" running around everywhere, wouldn't it? 👎
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 Veteran
1.8K messages
joined Apr 2013
#33 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:There’s actually one tiny difference between me and Maminh.

During my two-year partial ban, I didn't spend my time churning out dozens of clone accounts just to spam the "Formula 1" subforum.

Maminh did.

And here’s another massive difference🙄

As long as your great Schumacher was retired and Ferrari was stuck mid-pack, you didn't even bother asking for your ban to be lifted. But the second word got out that Schumacher was coming back? You were all over the NFL boards.☕
And look, nobody from the F1 board went digging through your old posts from 2007 or 2008 just to shove them in your face or parrot them back to you like you're some criminal who needs to serve his sentence.

Honestly, even if you hadn't been banned, you probably wouldn't have even shown up on the F1 board during the time you were sitting out anyway.
If you still had that ban this season and, by some miracle, Schumacher won a race, I'm positive you'd be back to using clones on the F1 board.

Comparing two F1 fans and their desperate urge to post on the F1 board—where one is obsessed with a retired driver while the other is chasing a driver fighting for the title and eyeing next year's championship—is anything but objective.☕
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active MemberOP
53 messages
joined Jul 2009
#34 ·
Guys, I honestly don't see the point in going in circles with Jason Campbell70 regarding Maminh’s return. He’s stated his piece, the rest of us have voiced ours, and frankly, Jason Campbell70’s approach suggests that a little cooling-off period might be just what these restless forum users need. The moderators have already agreed to step in and manage Maminh's conduct once he's back, leaving the administrator to simply shrug and say, "Whatever, let it be." 🙏
Jason Campbell70 Jason Campbell70 Veteran
1K messages
joined Jun 2017
#35 ·
stormybadger8 said:And there is another massive difference🙄

As long as your precious Michael Schumacher was retired and Ferrari was just dragging itself through the middle of the pack, you didn't even bother to write a single plea for his return. But the very second word got out that Michael Schumacher was coming back? You were absolutely losing your mind.☕
And look—nobody on the Formula 1 subforum was digging up your old posts from 2007 or 2008 just to shove them in your face, repeatedly acting like a parrot telling you how you were wrong and why you shouldn't have that partial ban.

Even if you hadn't been partially banned, it’s highly likely you wouldn't have even been seen on the Formula 1 subforum during the period you were actually serving that ban.
And if you somehow still had that partial ban this season, but by some miracle Michael Schumacher won a race? I am certain you would have shown up with clones on the Formula 1 subforum.

Comparing two Formula 1 fans and their desperate urge to post on the subforum—where one is rooting for a favorite driver in retirement versus the other rooting for a favorite driver fighting for a title and being a main contender for next season—is anything but objective.☕


Let me just address the shaky foundation of your argument right at the start. 🙂

Ferrari, my friend, won the Constructors' Championship in 2008, and they were in the hunt for the Drivers' title until the very last corner of the final race. 😉

So, saying "Ferrari was dragging itself through the middle of the pack, and you didn't even write a plea for his return" is quite a stretch.

And despite Ferrari's successes, I wasn't running around the Formula 1 subforum with clones.

This year— Maminho certainly is.

Gilberthe said:Jason Campbell70's logic suggests that cooling down improves unruly forum users

Gilberthe, don't generalize or lump me in with Maminho.

I am, after all, an exemplary user, an honorary moderator, and a top contributor to the forum.hr community. forum.hr. 🙏🙏🙏

Maminho, on the other hand, is a repeat offender who, despite serving a deserved penalty, hasn't reached the point of realizing his mistakes or deciding not to repeat them.
In short, Maminho's rehabilitation has failed. The penalty hasn't achieved a satisfactory result, and any leniency would only produce a counterproductive effect.

Maminho finally had his chance at it.
But he passed.

And just so we know, the offer from the forum.hr editorial staff still stands.

Now, the ball is in Maminho's court. 🙂

Hopefully, I’ve helped untangle this "Formula 1 Gordian knot" just a little bit.

Best regards,

Jason Campbell70. 🙂
feralpilot0 feralpilot0 Active Member
142 messages
joined Jul 2018
#36 ·
Jason Campbell70 said:S

Mickey Mouse

Mickey Mouse-m.

Mickey Mouse

Mickey Mouse

Mickey Mouse finally got his shot at it.
And he passed.

Mickey Mouse.

Why even care about him? If the mods and everyone else are on board, why act like some bitter, jealous old lady tearing the whole thread apart?

God, you’re acting like you’re somehow above the rest—as if you wouldn't be right there with them, wouldn't you? 👎
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#37 ·
feralpilot0 said:Just nitpicking because they're acting like some bitter, jealous old lady.

Nitpicking because they've got a small soul.
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
406 messages
joined Nov 2010
#38 ·
Look, I’ve told you before—you’re probably the last person who should be complaining about this, so you might as well just take it on the chin. It isn't exactly rocket science to get another partial ☕
later on anyway.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#39 ·
chill out on the hormones
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
255 messages
joined Aug 2018
#40 ·
I don't know, man... just feels like we're missing the point here. Everything is moving so fast lately... almost too fast to keep up with. Honestly? It’s kind of exhausting... kaže:
Chill out on those hormones...

You guys basically brought this on yourselves... You let a massive troll and an even bigger provocateur back into the fold. And honestly? We aren't even touching on his personality—stuff that none of us in the F1 community would wish on our worst enemy. Yet, somehow, everyone gets so incredibly rigid when it comes to unbanning little Maminhov... At Formula 1... The one we all grew to love... well, except for Pilatus, who basically nuked this whole thread with those constant provocations... 😉

Just imagine the kind of guy who isn't even afraid to push everyone's buttons... and he does it without an ounce of shame, too. He basically spits in all our faces while pretending to be this "objective" forum regular, throwing out these "neutral" reasons why someone shouldn't be banned. Then, to top it all off, he ends his posts by bragging about being an honorary moderator with the best physique in this part of Europe... unbelievable... 🤣 🤣

So you basically let someone like that crawl back in and slowly eat away at our Formula 1 PDF from the inside... even though nobody actually asked for them to come back. It’s wild. Then, on the flip side, you’ve got all the heavy hitters on this forum—people who almost never get banned and have never caused a single real headache here—standing shoulder to shoulder with the mods to stick up for Maminhov...

smart alecks... ☕

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