Dealing with gangrene

analogfox15 NewcomerOP

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#1 · Apr 2, 2010

Please forgive me if this is a bit off-topic, but I’m honestly at my wit's end and don't know where else to turn for guidance... about three months ago, my grandfather had two toes amputated due to gangrene... he isn't diabetic, but he does struggle with really poor circulation... everything seemed to be healing beautifully at first, and he was actually starting to feel better, but then, about a week ago, everything just took a turn for the absolute worst overnight... his entire foot has turned this deep, bruised purple color, blood is oozing from the wound site, and now these new sores have started breaking out all over his leg... it’s just a complete disaster... the pain is unbearable; he hasn't slept a wink in nearly a week. We’ve already rushed him to the hospital three separate times, but they won't admit him—they just keep telling him he needs to keep walking... but how on earth is he supposed to walk on a foot that's blue as a bruise, covered in open wounds, and screaming in agony?? They haven't even provided any pain relief or antibiotics... we are just devastated, watching him suffer like this is heartbreaking and we are completely lost... they refuse to hospitalize him... has anyone here dealt with anything similar? Is there anything he should be taking for the pain, or any specific way to treat this? And I wonder... would it be worth looking into Alternative Medicine, perhaps seeing some herbalists or energy healers?...

Tyler Reyes86 Member

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#2 · Apr 2, 2010

You can pick up some Trental 400 at any local pharmacy—it’s an over-the-counter purchase, so you don't need a prescription, and it usually arrives within $20. The dosage is one tablet three times a day, taken right after meals.
http://www.virtualmedicalcentre.com/...sp?drugid=2739
I actually know a woman who recently managed to deal with gangrene on her finger using Trental; it took about a week for the necrotic tissue to dry up and eventually fall off.
However, I must point out that if your grandfather is dealing with more severe thrombosis or significant vascular damage—not to mention the terrifying possibility of wet gangrene, which spreads incredibly fast—then Trental alone simply won't cut it. He really needs to undergo diagnostic testing through a vascular specialist to secure the appropriate medical therapy as soon as possible.
For managing intense pain, Tramal might be helpful.
In any case, if his condition doesn't show immediate signs of improvement, your grandfather needs a referral to a cardiovascular specialist or a vascular clinic, followed by an immediate trip to the emergency room.

analogfox15 NewcomerOP

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#3 · Apr 3, 2010

Thank you so much... He was taking some Tramal, but honestly, it wasn't doing much for him at all. We actually managed to get his hands on something a bit stronger recently... The real issue, though, is that almost his entire foot has turned blue—it isn't just limited to his toes anymore... We're going to try using the Trental and see if that helps... Thanks again for everything...

analogfox15 NewcomerOP

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#4 · Apr 3, 2010

I should have mentioned this earlier... the doctors at the hospital keep insisting that his veins look perfectly fine, even though his leg is clearly deteriorating... they’ve actually sent him home three separate times already, refusing to admit him...

mistyjackal842 Active Member

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#5 · Apr 4, 2010

About three years ago, my mom dealt with some serious issues involving her pinky toe. It turned completely blue, and she ended up developing arterial thrombosis in that leg. She doesn't even have high blood sugar, which was a relief. I remember being absolutely terrified when the doctors suggested she might actually need an amputation... honestly, it was just devastating to hear. Luckily, everything worked out. The toe healed, and while she did have early-stage gangrene, thankfully it wasn't the wet kind. To manage it, she kept the toe wrapped in gauze, used Octenisept spray regularly, and was incredibly strict about keeping everything sterile. Her doctors also advised her to walk as much as possible, but they were very clear: if she felt any claudication—you know, those sharp pains—she had to stop immediately, sit on a bench outside, and rest until the pain subsided. It was pretty tough at first; I’d go outside with her, and we’d spend more time sitting than actually walking. But bit by bit, she improved. She still can't walk super fast, but after three years, her leg is doing so much better, and she can walk almost normally now. One thing that's really vital is wearing comfortable shoes—they have to be wide enough so they don't squeeze the foot at all.

I can send you a private message with the name of the doctor who specializes in arterial circulation issues. He performs surgeries at a major hospital in Washington, D.C. He was such a huge help to my mom three years ago, and he was really the only one who gave us clear instructions on how to handle the walking and calmed our fears about losing the toe.

analogfox15 NewcomerOP

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#6 · Apr 6, 2010

mistyjackal842, thank you so much, but I don't think that'll be necessary. He actually ended up being admitted to the hospital after all, and they need to perform a procedure to clear out his vessels... I'm just holding onto hope that things will take a turn for the better once that's done...

mistyjackal842 Active Member

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#7 · Apr 7, 2010

I really hope things start looking up soon. At the very least, I just hope they can save the rest of his leg. How old is he now? And which hospital is he at—is it somewhere over in Washington, D.C.? How did that vascular procedure turn out? Is he feeling any better?

I haven't actually heard of people calling it "vessel blowing," if that makes sense... I think it's called an arterial bypass in the leg? They actually mentioned that as a possibility for my mom once, though luckily she hasn't needed a bypass surgery yet. I guess there’s always that risk of complications, like a blood clot forming right where the bypass meets the artery. I remember reading about that on some American medical sites a few years back. I don't know anyone here in the States who has actually had to go through that kind of surgery.

wanderingharbor492 Member

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#8 · Oct 2, 2011

If you're dealing with gangrene, I’ve found that taking colloidal silver at 7ppm—just a small sip every two hours or so—and spraying a higher concentration of at least 15ppm directly onto the affected area several times a day can tackle it quite quickly and effectively. You start seeing visible improvement after only a couple of days... it's been tested and proven...

Angela Wright Regular

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#9 · Oct 2, 2011

wanderingharbor492 said:If you want to handle gangrene, you can fix it pretty fast and effectively by drinking 7ppm colloidal silver—just take a sip every two hours—and spraying at least 15ppm colloidal silver directly onto the affected area several times a day. You'll see visible improvement in just a few days. I've seen it work.

You've got to be kidding me. 😲

Seriously though, does this stuff also clear up warts? Because mine are growing out of control from dealing with pure human stupidity.☕

Samuel Morgan40 Active Member

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#10 · Oct 2, 2011

wanderingharbor492 said:The issue of gangrene can be handled quite rapidly and effectively by consuming 7ppm colloidal silver—taking a sip every two hours or so—while also spraying at least 15ppm colloidal silver onto the affected area several times a day. You'll see noticeable improvement within just a few days. This has been verified.

I would kindly ask that this be moved to the Alternative Medicine subforum; please take a moment to review the rules for the Health subforum. Thanks.

wanderingharbor492 Member

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#11 · Oct 2, 2011

Angela Wright said:You've got to be kidding me... 😲

But seriously, tell me—is it actually stripping away the scab too? Because I swear my own head is starting to swell from dealing with nothing but pure human stupidity lately...☕

Don't go mocking something you clearly don't understand. Why don't you do us all a favor and actually look into it first... please.

wanderingharbor492 Member

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#12 · Oct 2, 2011

Sophia Wells72 said:I’m going to kindly suggest you head over to the Alternative Medicine subforum and actually take a moment to read the rules for the Health section. Thanks.

Did I really do something wrong here?...

melloworca6 Regular

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#13 · Oct 2, 2011

Maybe try actually reading the rules once in a while.

The Health subforum is strictly tied to conventional medicine and science-based practices. You aren't allowed to push alternative views or treatment methods here. Under these rules, anything considered "alternative" means any substance or method that lacks official medical or scientific backing—basically, stuff that mainstream doctors consider useless or even dangerous. If you want to talk about that, go to the Alternative Medicine subforum. Also, promoting any drugs that haven't been cleared by the FDA is strictly prohibited.

As far as I can tell, colloidal and ionic silver don't count as conventional treatments. In fact, there are actual warnings from medical professionals stating they're harmful and should be avoided. If someone wants to risk it, fine, but we don't allow the promotion or consumption of that stuff on this forum.

Edward Mitchell24 Newcomer

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#14 · Nov 17, 2011

A garage door crushed my fingertip, and I ended up in surgery to get it cleaned up. They had to stitch it, give me a tetanus shot, and put me on antibiotics because there was bone damage involved. It’s been five weeks since then; the wound has healed, though the scab hasn't fallen off yet. About a week ago, however, small lumps started appearing on both sides of my finger. They aren't overly painful when pressed, but the tip of my finger feels red and warm. My sedimentation levels are normal and my blood sugar is fine, but I am 70 years old...
Two different doctors have told me there is no infection, but they mentioned that the circulation isn't great.
Can anyone provide more insight on this or point me toward a specialist?
Thanks.

James Carter5 Newcomer

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#15 · Mar 7, 2013

mistyjackal842 said:My mom dealt with some issues with her pinky toe about three years ago. It turned completely blue, and she ended up with arterial thrombosis in that leg. She doesn't have high blood sugar, either. They actually scared her into thinking they might have to amputate the toe—honestly, hearing that was just terrifying for me. Luckily, everything worked out fine and the toe healed up. She had some early-stage gangrene, but thankfully it wasn't wet gangrene. She kept the toe wrapped in gauze, used Neosporin spray, and made sure everything stayed totally sterile. Her doctor also told her to walk as much as possible, but if she felt any claudication—you know, those pains—she had to stop immediately, sit on a bench outside, and just rest until the pain passed. It was rough at first; I’d go outside with her and we’d end up sitting more than walking, but little by little, she got better. She just can't walk super fast anymore. Now, three years later, that leg is doing way better and she can walk almost normally. One big thing is wearing really comfy shoes—they have to be wide enough so they aren't squeezing her foot at all.

I can DM you the name of the doctor who is great with arterial circulation issues in the leg; he performs surgeries at a hospital in Washington, D.C. He helped my mom a ton three years ago, and he was really the only one who gave us solid advice on walking and calmed us down about losing the toe.

Could you please send me that doctor's name? ... I'm dealing with a similar situation with my mother, she's 82 ... but she isn't even able to walk on her own anymore ... she has an open wound ... etc. We'd love to see someone who can explain if surgery is even an option. .. my email is James Carter5@form.com

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