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Slim Shady did the exact same thing, but I still got a warning

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Participants Morgan Rodriguez57rowdyhawk10Peter Stewart6Chris Peterson53granitefox16Steven Brooks14feralpilot0Drew Reed6Roger Barrett2Steven Clark2Christian Torres3swiftorca57Michelle Alvarez8Dennis Hall41urbanwalker6Melissa Watson4hollowtrucker77
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#41 ·
Christian Torres3 said:Come on, I’m asking you—give me an example of one of his posts that you actually found hilarious and lacking in substance, so we can all have a laugh together and identify exactly where the logic fails.

If my reasoning is correct, one of those people putting forward the most arguments is actually Kom1. I suppose, based on a random sampling principle, you could pick any three of his posts and reach that same conclusion. The issue, however, seems to be that the opposing side isn't interested in debating actual points or looking at the subject through an anthropological lens (specifically within a historical and cultural context). Instead, Kom1 tends to face dogmatic rebuttals, with posts claiming things like, "that isn't Church doctrine," "you're talking nonsense," or "that's all unverified"... or they simply drift into off-topic tangents, ad hominem attacks, and so on. Most topics Kom1 initiates follow this pattern. As a user, Kom1 is quite peaceful; he rarely engages with the people poking at him (if I recall correctly, Morgan Rodriguez57 was the only one who managed to get under his skin enough to earn him his first red card in all these years on the site). But since Kom1 refuses to stoop to petty trolling, others accuse him of not truly interacting with users, claiming instead that he just posts "blog entries." In reality, the truth might be that he provides solid, analytical breakdowns, but there aren't many users equipped or willing to measure their own arguments against his... so they accuse him of being unwilling to dialogue. That isn't really the case. It's more that Kom1 only responds to substantive contributions. That's just my take. Best regards.

EDIT: No, Nick. Take a look at the posting rules on PZ.
http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t=432483 (the paragraph titled: "The topics you open...")
swiftorca57 swiftorca57 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Nov 2009
#42 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:If I'm reading this right, the guy dropping the most arguments is definitely Kom1. Seriously, just pick any three random posts of his and you'll see what I mean. But here’s the catch: the other side doesn't even want to debate the actual points or look at things from an anthropological perspective—you know, the historical and cultural context. Instead, Kom1 just gets shut down dogmatically with stuff like, "that's not official doctrine," "you're talking nonsense," "none of that is recognized," or they just go totally off-topic with ad hominems and whatnot. Most of the threads Kom1 starts end up like that. Peace.

So those 4,000 posts of yours? They're built on the exact same logic you're using to call everyone else out..!!
You're typing this without even a shred of shame since all your posts are public..!!
You really need some backbone to say this when every single thing you post is just a quote from the Quran..!!
Every time someone replies to you, you get aggressive and try to punish them..!!
Honestly, you're the least serious person on this entire site..!!
All your "evidence" boils down to Quran quotes and acting like you don't understand basic American English..!!
And you actually have the nerve to publicly criticize other users like this..!!
You still owe me an answer as to why you forbid everyone else from having a personal opinion while you take all the liberties you want on Reddit..!!
You deleted that last post because you knew you were being a hypocrite and full of hate toward me, so you hid the proof..!!
Listen, your critiques and posts carry zero weight with any decent person until you start communicating honestly instead of acting like every thought you have was handed to you by Bogon. Anyone who disagrees gets banned by you. It's like how Muhammad dealt with people who didn't recognize him as a prophet..!!
Maybe work on yourself a bit. Respect others and love your own views, then maybe people will actually like you. But as long as you're trashing everyone else while demanding respect for yourself, you're just digging your own grave.!!

I was only trying to be friendly so people would actually take you seriously..!!
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active Member
85 messages
joined Sep 2020
#43 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:EDIT: No handle used. Please refer to the community guidelines on PZ.
http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?t=432483 (specifically the section titled: "Topics you initiate...")

Could you be more specific? What exactly are we talking about? 🤷

If my reasoning is correct, one of the people presenting the most arguments is actually Kom1.

I have to disagree. Kom1 is simply someone who, in a certain sense, bolsters your specific ideology while attacking a viewpoint you happen to oppose—one that you are actively fighting against. 🙂 In reality, both of you possess absolutely ZERO substantive arguments —you are merely relying on anecdotes and romanticized versions of the facts. I could argue against both of you individually on any thread within the Religion sub-forum. 😁 He dismisses any evidence that doesn't suit his narrative, just as you do. Both of you are driven by a similar (and deeply personal) ideology rather than logic. I don't have an issue with the ideology itself, and I certainly have even less issue with you two (heaven forbid!), but I do appreciate seeing concrete data instead of fabricated stories being presented as indisputable truths. The fundamental problem is that neither of you views these issues within their proper historical context, nor do you seem to have much grasp of it. I will address those concepts properly in the relevant threads, but here, I am simply pointing out your demagogic portrayal of the situation—as if we are all fools, while you two, who are quite lost on the subject matter, are somehow enlightened, which is simply not the case. 🙂 You truly don't realize what you are writing about, and please understand, this isn't meant as an insult; it is simply my professional assessment. From my perspective, you and he are on the exact same level. Neither of you relies on actual authorities or serious experts regarding the topics we debate; instead, you lean on Brandon, Trevor link, and Kosidowskog—none of whom qualify as legitimate scholars in the fields we discuss. Honestly, I would be embarrassed to cite them, particularly Kosidowskog, in a serious academic discussion. 🙂>
swiftorca57 swiftorca57 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Nov 2009
#44 ·
The whole ALL CAPS thing is just for those rare moments when it’s actually needed..!!
And an exception is when someone starts acting like a hypocrite by calling others out on their own crap..!!!

So, you think me quoting other users is why I'm getting flagged for using too many caps? (Pathetic, right?)
Hehe, don't start coming after me for my different colors and fonts now, you hypocrite..
We both know you've got zero arguments against what I write, so you're just trying to shut me down. Won't work..!!

Here's the original post from rowdyhawk10, who still owes me an answer here on PZ about why he and I aren't the same on Reddit.!!:🙂)

You have received an infraction on Reddit
Dear swiftorca57,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: MASSIVE CAPS used in multiple consecutive posts...
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This infraction is worth 10 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

Original Post:
http://www.reddit.com/showthread.php?p=24388755
Quote:
Steven Clark2 Steven Clark2 Active Member
85 messages
joined Sep 2020
#45 ·
Honestly, the grades people are pulling in Religion class are just embarrassing. It’s truly a joke. 😂
swiftorca57 swiftorca57 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Nov 2009
#46 ·
Steven Clark2 said:Hehe, getting banned in the Religion sub? That’s just pure embarrassment. 😂

Yeah, but only when they're trying to defend themselves against Muslim attacks..!!
But with actual arguments..
When they run out of things to say, it's just bans and strikes..!!
They basically have a roadmap of what happens if you don't fall in line..!!🤣🤣
Our teachings are different, so give him a break—he doesn't know any better..!!
I already forgave him, but honestly? I kind of want to hear one more cliché from him just so I can get a good laugh today..!!😁
Michelle Alvarez8 Michelle Alvarez8 Regular
299 messages
joined Nov 2015
#47 ·
Morgan Rodriguez57 said:I actually got a warning for this post:

http://reddit.com/showpost.php?p=23804670&postcount=38

but when I dropped my one-liner, they hit me with this whole rant:

http://reddit.com/showpost.php?p=23817643&postcount=123

I'm just saying—either rowdyhawk10 gets a warning for that post too, or mine needs to be cleared...

otherwise, this is just a total abuse of moderator power...

back when I was a moderator on a different site, I almost got crucified just for posting a single smiley—until the higher-ups finally gave me a strike...

so either rowdyhawk10 gets a card now, or mine gets wiped...

there you have it... ☕

LOL Morgan Rodriguez57, it's like you joined this site yesterday instead of years ago! How do you not get how things work around here? 🤣
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active MemberOP
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#48 ·
Brian Edwards78 said:LOL Morgan Rodriguez57, it’s almost like you just joined this site yesterday instead of being here for years... how can you still be confused about how things work around here? 🤣

Am I asking if this is some weird blend of right-wing, anti-establishment, atheist, and Islamic forum? Yeah... I definitely know... 😁
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#49 ·
Brian Edwards78 said:LOL Morgan Rodriguez57, it's like you just joined this forum yesterday instead of being here for years. How can you not get how things work around here? 🤣

Maybe he was just copying my complaints because I don't know what's up?
Like, how does it actually work,😁 please tell me?
🍿
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active MemberOP
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#50 ·
I’ve honestly tried everything I can to flag the mods, sub-mods, and admins about how rowdyhawk10 is just doing whatever they want—it feels so biased and, frankly, pretty amateurish—but nothing sticks... there’s really only one way to look at this, and since I have zero interest in dealing with someone so stubborn, I’m stepping away from the religion subreddits for a while... at least until things actually start looking up...

Can the PZ moderators please just lock this thread... 🙂
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
55 messages
joined Jan 2018
#51 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:That’s how you framed the question too: "find me something in the Quran similar to what Jesus said..."...

...plus, you went as far as saying we "replaced Sharia with lawlessness."
Is stoning women who were raped actually considered law?
Look, this doesn't hit home for me personally—but this kind of "anything goes" logic is hard to just ignore.

Also, you're a moderator on a subreddit in a majority Christian country, and you're claiming that "celebrating Jesus as a deity is one of the greatest crimes"?
urbanwalker6 urbanwalker6 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2007
#52 ·
rowdyhawk10, I honestly think it’s pathetic how much you abuse your "authority" on this platform.
Where exactly do you get the right to shut down my thread when it’s had a thousand views in just a few days??

If what was written about Islam bothered you that much, you could have just deleted those specific posts—though I stand by them, because just because someone finds the truth uncomfortable doesn't make it any less true. For what it's worth, I find malicious, hateful comments regarding Christianity or God equally offensive... yet I haven't seen anyone getting sanctioned for that. Meanwhile, I get slapped with a 100-point penalty. 👎
Your moderation is a joke; it’s basically just anarchy at this point.
What’s the point of posting on a forum that stifles individual expression and censors your every word? You’ve become a massive thorn in everyone's side because your censorship is completely arbitrary.
Take a page out of Polančec's book and just resign already. ☕
Melissa Watson4 Melissa Watson4 Member
24 messages
joined Dec 2008
#53 ·
Guys, don't even bother arguing... trust me, I know how this goes. I was part of that first big revolt over religion when we were pushing for Christian mode and trying to get rowdyhawk10 off the moderation team... but talking to the admins on this site is basically like talking to a brick wall.

I get that they don't take every complaint seriously, but when a moderator clearly and undeniably messes up, the least they could do is retract the ban and offer an apology... but no, the mods here are treated like royalty, untouchable sacred cows. This whole site would probably go under before any mod here admits they made a mistake and says sorry to you.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#54 ·
Mods shouldn't be picked based on what denomination they belong to
whether we're talking about religion or any of the other subforums here
Morgan Rodriguez57 Morgan Rodriguez57 Active MemberOP
216 messages
joined Oct 2011
#55 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:moderators shouldn't be chosen based on their religious denomination
whether it's regarding religion or any other sub-forum

I really don't want to get bogged down in the specifics of how moderators are appointed, but I honestly can't stop thinking about how the higher-ups handle the mods... it's wild. Back when I was a moderator myself, I actually got called out by management just because I issued a single warning to someone—and get this—not even to the person I warned, but to some completely different user who decided to rebel against it... 🙏

When you compare that to rowdyhawk10—who basically doesn't even read the posts and just hands out bans whenever someone reports them, making him an overall pretty terrible moderator—nobody from the top brass even gives him a little nudge... it's night and day, really... 🙂

So, once again, I'm asking the moderators of this subreddit to please just lock this thread... it isn't serving any purpose anymore, except for people who were banned by rowdyhawk10 to use it as a way to vent...

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