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Universal Soldier: Regeneration (2009)

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Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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Most people always wrote off Jean Claude van Damme as just another generic action guy with zero acting chops. But last year, he flipped the script and proved everyone wrong with "JCVD," a movie that raked in massive praise from both audiences and critics alike. After that win, and after JCVD basically said "tras/bam thank you Mr. Van Damme" regarding his old cheesy flicks—stating he was ready to move toward more serious, meaningful projects—everyone expected a shift in his career. He even turned down a role in Sylvester Stallone's upcoming blockbuster "The Expendables" because he felt the character lacked any real depth.
Unfortunately, Van Damme can't seem to outrun his own past or some pretty questionable calls. Because of those bad decisions, he ended up stuck making "Universal Soldier: Regeneration," the second sequel to his big 90s hit "Universal Soldier." The first sequel, "Universal Soldier: The Return," came out in 1999 and was total garbage (plus there were two unofficial TV sequels back in '98).
People have been asking why he passed on "The Expendables" just to do this, but here’s the real story. It turns out he was legally cornered into doing this if he wanted to avoid a lawsuit that would cost him a fortune. See, a few years back, Van Damme signed a deal with producer Moshe Diamant ("Hard Target", "TimeCop") to do a martial arts drama called "The Smashing Machine"... but Van Damme bailed at the last minute, killing the project. However, the contract stayed active, so Moshe basically grabbed Van Damme by the balls (LOL), and "Universal Soldier 3" is the result. Van Damme has admitted several times that he wasn't feeling this movie at all; he shot it in just 20 days and refused to help promote it.
On the flip side, Dolph Lundgren—who the producers also managed to drag into the mix—actually had a choice. Unlike Van Damme, he didn't initially want in, but after talking to the director and seeing a few script tweaks, he agreed to a small, almost cameo-style role that he knocked out in just five days. He’s playing Andrew Scott again, just like in the original, even though his character died at the end of the first one. The writers handled it the classic way: cloning. LOL. Along with Dolph and Van Damme, the cast features Andrei "The Pit" Arlovski, a former UFC heavyweight champ, UFC fighter Mike Pyle, and Jon Foo, the young martial arts talent you might recognize from "Taj Yum Goong" who's also heading into "Tekken."
The film is directed by John Hyams, the son of the old legend Peter ("Outland", "Timecop", "Sudden Death", "End of Days"), while Peter himself handles production and cinematography. This is clearly a low-budget affair, sitting around $14 million, and they filmed in Bulgaria to stand in for the US setting where the story takes place. John mentioned wanting to give it a documentary feel, which makes sense given his background in documentaries, including one about MMA fighters—"The Smashing Machine"—which provides a solid foundation for this kind of movie.
The film had its premiere at Fantastic Fest in Texas on October 1st, and surprisingly, the crowd response was pretty decent and positive ("entertaining reunion of Lundgren and Van Damme" was just one of many comments). There was even some buzz about a limited theatrical run, but Sony Pictures ultimately decided to dump it straight to video. It hits DVD and Blu-ray on February 2, 2010.

Anyway... action fans should be happy enough...

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After hijacking some top-secret tech, terrorists build a next-gen Universal Soldier—basically a genetically modified killing machine you can program. Led by this "UniSol" (Arlovski), they take over a broken-down nuclear plant in the US, threatening to let loose a massive radioactive cloud. The only guy capable of stopping this mess is Luc Deveraux (JCVD), a retired UniSol who's been out of the game for years.
Once he's back in action and retrained, Deveraux has to storm the heavily fortified site. But once he's inside, he realizes he's facing not just one, but two of these unstoppable freaks. Andrew Scott (Lundgren), the brutal UniSol rival from the original Universal Soldier, has been brought back and upgraded in secret. These elite soldiers are primed and ready to kill, and millions of lives are riding on this massive showdown.

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Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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#2 ·
New cover art, plus a slightly tweaked trailer and some exclusive Hi-Rez stills from the movie...

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trailer 2

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briskbison41 briskbison41 Active Member
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#3 ·
Judging by the trailer, it looks decent enough. I'm hoping the rest of the movie holds up.
Larry Harris8 Larry Harris8 Newcomer
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#4 ·
The first part was a total masterpiece—definitely. The second one... well, it was a bit much (they really should have cut out that van Damme humor)... though the fight between Seth and him turned out alright in the end.
I'm looking forward to watching this one and I think it'll be worth the time.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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Larry Harris8 said:The first one is a straight-up masterpiece. The second? Man, what a mess (they should've ditched that van Damme humor). Seth's fight at the end was alright though.
Looking forward to this one; feels like it might actually be worth a watch.

Man... the second one was pure trash... but honestly, that humor made it funny enough to keep me entertained, haha.🤣

As for this trilogy... the first round of reviews wasn't even that bad, so I'm hoping for a solid, fun action flick.

We'll see...
gentlebadger88 gentlebadger88 Active Member
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#6 ·
I've lost count of how many times I’ve sat through the first movie—it's an absolute masterpiece—but man, the sequel was such a massive letdown. I'm really hoping they actually bring something decent to the table with this new installment 😁
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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I don't get it... based on the trailer, how is van Damme coming back to life if he was already alive at the end of the second movie? Or did he die and I just don't remember...🤔
Nathan Myers28 Nathan Myers28 Active Member
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Henry Evans3 said:I’m a bit lost looking at this trailer—how does van Damme end up coming back to life again? I thought he was still alive at the end of the second movie and didn't die? Or did he actually kick the bucket and my memory is just failing me?🤔

It looks like they’re just completely brushing off the second half!
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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#9 ·
So, what's the actual timeline before the first movie starts?
Nathan Myers28 Nathan Myers28 Active Member
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Henry Evans3 said:So, does the story take place before the first movie?

Actually, no—the plot takes place after the first one.
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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Nathan Myers28 said:No, the plot actually picks up after the first one.

Wait, did Van Damme die at the end of the first movie? I honestly can't remember...🙂>
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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Henry Evans3 said:Wait, did Van Damme actually die at the end of the first movie? Honestly, I can't quite remember...🙂

Survived. Ended up back at the farm with his folks and that blonde reporter lady. If they’re actually trying to build this on top of the first one, I really hope we get some solid closure on what went down after everything wrapped up... because—judging by the teaser—just digging him out of a grave or unfreezing him again feels a bit lazy. Emmerich's original movie felt like it actually had a proper ending, you know?

Anyway, regarding Van Damme...😁 It’s honestly pretty great to see him finally catching a bit of a break again... feels like his career is actually starting to move in the right direction after all this time.
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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It was about time he finally got back in front of a camera for something new...🙂

Wait, hold on, is he actually filming some biopic now? It's called JCVD, right?
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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Henry Evans3 said:it was about time he shot something new...🙂

Hold up, is he actually filming some biopic now? It’s called JCVD, right?

Look, Van Damme has plenty of movies out there, but most of them—at least his recent stuff—have been total flops, including that Universal Soldier sequel. This JCVD flick was actually finished, I think last year, and honestly... it’s great. It was one of those genuinely pleasant cinematic surprises—if you even know what to expect from him as an actor—that I ended up catching in theaters twice in a row. He basically "strips down" his own persona through this fictional story, and it's a solid recommendation. Honestly, after watching JCVD, I have even more respect for him as a creator...

As for this Soldier thing, I’ve got some good vibes about it since Peter Hymes is involved (and hey, if the director's dad can throw in some advice 🙂), plus Van Damme did two pretty decent movies with him, so it should be at least somewhat decent. And Lundgren and Van Damme... man, those were the glory days.
Alex Long8 Alex Long8 Member
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#15 ·
It’s sitting at an 8.6 on IMDb, so maybe it's actually worth a watch.
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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briskhound2 said:Van Damme has plenty of movies, but most of them—especially lately—have been total misses, including that Universal Soldier sequel. This JCVD flick was actually shot maybe last year, and it’s great... honestly one of those rare cinematic surprises (considering what we usually expect from him as an actor) that I almost went to see twice in a row. He basically "unmasked" himself through this fictional story, and it's a solid recommendation. Honestly, after watching this JCVD, I have even more respect for him as a creator.

Regarding this Soldier movie, I've got a good feeling about it since Peter Hymes is involved (even if his dad directing might mean he gets some pointers🙂), and Van Damme made two solid movies with him, so it should be decent at the very least. Plus, seeing Lundgren and Van Damme together... man, those were the glory days.

Well, now... it depends on which one you're talking about. For instance, compared to his "rival," Seagal, Van Damme has made way fewer movies over the last 9 years, but they're much higher quality. Take "Replicant," for example—it was actually pretty good for a B-tier DTV movie, both in production and acting (playing the main villain and a clone with the mindset of a 10-year-old is tough for any action hero). I'd especially highlight "In Hell," a prison drama where Van Damme was excellent, and the action, specifically the fights, took a backseat. Then there's "Wake of Death," which, despite being a B-movie, is quite dark, violent, and a cool watch in that HK style. And I definitely have to mention "Until Death" where, if you ask me, Van Damme gave the best performance of his career prior to JCVD.
Anyway... just re-checking those titles👍

PS. Universal Soldier : Regeneration is "out"😁...so if anyone wants to watch it, go ahead, haha👍😁
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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Anthony Smith3 said:So... just going back through these headlines again...👍

I've already seen just about everything, but thanks for the recommendation anyway... To be honest, unlike Seagal—whom I've unfortunately written off as an actor who could actually surprise us (maybe Rodriguez might pull something off)—van Damme actually has some qualities. At least for B-movie territory. And it’s no small thing that he still has that muscular build, which makes him pretty convincing on screen. *Second in Command* was actually a decent little surprise to sit through—nothing groundbreaking or anything, but a pretty chill watch. Still, the whole thing feels like it's sitting a bit below his previous level... kind of lukewarm and underdeveloped, I guess. Generally speaking, though, his loud, over-the-top movies aren't really my vibe—unless we're talking *Timecop* or *Universal Soldier*, where the directors deserve a lot of the credit—but I'd definitely put *Nowhere to Run* near the top of my list. It's an underrated title, if you ask me, and it suits him perfectly... he even made a genuine effort with the acting there. A satisfying result, all things considered...

I'm telling you... we'll grab him right after the New Year's rush... 😁
Henry Evans3 Henry Evans3 Active Member
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Anthony Smith3 said:Well, it really depends on how you look at it. If you compare him to his rival, Seagal, Van Damme actually made significantly fewer movies over the last nine years, but the quality was way higher. For instance, "Replicant" was actually a pretty solid B-movie for direct-to-video... both in terms of production and acting (playing the villain and a clone with the mindset of a ten-year-old is definitely a tough ask for an action star). I’d especially highlight "In Hell," a prison drama where Van Damme was outstanding, and the action—especially the fights—was kept in the background. Then there’s "Wake of Death," which, despite being a B-movie, is a dark and violent flick that feels like a cool HK-style production. And I have to mention "Until Death," where, if you ask me, Van Damme gave the best performance of his entire career until he reached the level of JCVD...
So... I'm just going back through all these headlines again...👍

P.S. Universal Soldier : Regeneration is just plain bad...😁Well, if anyone actually enjoys this stuff, be my guest... hehe👍😁

Yeah, it finally dropped, but honestly? It’s a total joke of a version...
Anthony Smith3 Anthony Smith3 RegularOP
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#19 ·
The version is actually decent... honestly, this DVD screener looks almost as good as a high-quality DVD rip.🤷The only weird thing is the picture flips to black and white for about 5 seconds every 20 minutes... but I don't care at all. I've already watched the movie twice LOL.😁👍

BTW... here's some more promo stuff...

A few clips from the movie and some behind the scenes footage...

CLIP 1 - Andrew Scott
CLIP 2 - Fight Luc vs Scott

Behind the Scenes 1
Behind the Scenes 2
stormystag43 stormystag43 Member
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#20 ·
Is this new flick actually worth anything? Because let me tell you, the first one was an absolute masterpiece.

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