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Selective post deletions happening again on the politics board

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Participants bluefalcon14Jeffrey Cooper7Adam Collins4Kimberly Anderson22Nathan Bailey65Casey Robinson2Susan Howard63Keith Sanders29granitepilot282Daniel Ward87Ryan Vaughn7Jeremy Diaz4Nicole Collins13Tyler Ross86
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
79 messages
joined Oct 2008
#21 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:Was that post actually flagged using the little triangle icon? Or was it just brought up here?

Because I certainly didn't receive any notification about a report on that specific post...🤷

Daniel Ward87

Daniel Ward87, several of her posts like that have been reported to you, yet you haven't reacted to a single one...

So... ☕
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 MemberOP
37 messages
joined Aug 2009
#22 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:Was that post actually reported using the little triangle icon? Or was it just posted here directly?

Because I never actually received a report regarding that post...🤷

Daniel Ward87

I reported a ton of posts, yet you guys just deleted them all... No strikes issued, no nothing. Meanwhile, I’m getting penalized for every single little thing—it’s ridiculous. Honestly, I suspect this latest move was just more of Resonator's handiwork... Just like this, too.

Resonator As said:Dear bluefalcon14,

You have received an infraction on Reddit.

Reason: Trolling.
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This violation carries a penalty of 35 points—an action that could lead to restricted access for the duration of the penalty period. Be advised: severe infractions are permanent and will never expire.

Original Post:

Quote: Guggenheim said:I'm curious to hear your thoughts:

Do you honestly believe that Hloverka and Culjak-Selebajka possess even a basic understanding of the historical nuances here—things like the actual makeup of the anti-fascist movements, the specific percentages of communists within those ranks, or the details surrounding Nazor? Do they know anything about how Pavelić attempted to offer the crown to the Italians, or the reality of the Italian concentration camps used against Americans on this soil? It makes one wonder if they have any grasp at all of the deeper complexities of our history.

It often seems to me that when they sit down to talk with Jurečevića or Puhovski, they aren't actually listening—they're just staring blankly at their interlocutors. Does it even matter to them what the truth is? It feels like they are merely repeating a pre-packaged, unspoken thesis: that being an anti-fascist is synonymous with being a communist, and since communists were criminals, they must be too. Is that really all there is to it?

The other day, Culjakica decided to mark the anniversary of the start of World War II—you know, when Germany invaded Poland back in '39—and her first move was to corner Jakovina and grill him about partisan atrocities...

I told you to stop embarrassing yourself... yet here you are, doubling down. It clearly points to one thing—malice. Honestly, what kind of person writes posts where every single sentence is packed with lies? It’s exhausting to read, let alone bother responding to. So, I have a proposal for you. Why don't you try separating anti-fascism from communism? Let's see how you handle that. We'll finally see whether you're actually standing up for anti-fascism or if you're just a mouthpiece for communism.

All The Best,
Reddit



Guggenheim pumps out so much pure misinformation and just flat-out trolls us—and then, when I actually have the nerve to call him out on it, I’m the one who gets penalized? Honestly, it’s enough to drive anyone absolutely insane.
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 MemberOP
37 messages
joined Aug 2009
#23 ·
Ryan Vaughn7 said:I wasn't personally involved in this specific situation—but bluefalcon14 is absolutely spot on. On political forums, posts get deleted selectively. Bans are handed out selectively. Threads are shut down selectively. Everything is handled through a lens of bias; selection is quite literally the entire purpose of moderation.

The moderation here is clearly left-wing...
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
195 messages
joined May 2023
#24 ·
Amanda Booth42 said:Daniel Ward87, we've reported several of her posts like this, but you haven't done anything about them yet..

so yeah... ☕

The one you're talking about isn't... so ☕...

Daniel Ward87
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#25 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:The point you're making isn't quite... well, let's just say ☕...

Daniel Ward87

And what about those entries I actually reported...
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
79 messages
joined Oct 2008
#26 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:The point you're making isn't quite... well, ☕...

Daniel Ward87

Those two entries were part of my earlier registration, but apparently, there's a rule that nothing shows up until they decide to call you out publicly like this. Once they do, they just vanish—even though it would be useful to know, say, how many points libertango actually scored on those two entries. By the book, she should have walked away with 45 each.

And let me just add this: when they want to punish those of us who don't fall in line, they don't even need a formal invitation. For instance, Resonator hands out penalties for no reason at all, and as for Ryan Vaughn7, we don't even need to talk about him; everyone knows exactly how his "influence" works.
granitepilot282 granitepilot282 Active Member
126 messages
joined Jan 2008
#27 ·
A toxic mix of arrogance and pure stupidity... a recipe for disaster.☕
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
195 messages
joined May 2023
#28 ·
Amanda Booth42 said:Those two instances were part of my early registration, but apparently, they don't show up until they call you out publicly like this. Once that happens, they vanish, even though it would be helpful to know how many points someone like Libertango actually earned from those two entries—under the rules, it should have been 45 each.

And just to drive the point home: you don't need a formal invitation to punish those of us who don't see eye to eye with the crowd. For instance, Reson@tor hands them out for no reason at all, and don't even get me started on Ryan Vaughn7; everyone knows exactly how he "operates."

From what I understand, all you really need to do is check a user's profile to see their strike history—how many they have, who issued them, and so on. Go ahead, take a look...🤷 Odi pa vidi...

As for having different opinions—there's a big difference between reporting a post and a moderator stepping in to decide if something is actual trolling or just being rude (aside from the obvious stuff). On the Politics board, people who can actually hold a constructive conversation are rare; it's mostly just endless bickering. What one person calls trolling, another sees as a valid point. Try taking that into account for once.

@granitepilot282/">@@granitepilot282 - 🙂

Just to be clear, I'm not defending or supporting anyone here; I'm just speaking for myself.

Daniel Ward87
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#29 ·
Why is anyone allowed to start such a blatantly fake thread with an even filthier, more dishonest headline?

claiming HVO pensions get eight times more funding than education!

One only needs to glance at the US federal budget to see just how much of a lie this claim is...

http://www.treasury.gov/adminmax/docs/Federal_Budget.pdf
Jeremy Diaz4 Jeremy Diaz4 Newcomer
6 messages
joined Sep 2009
#30 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:From what I can gather, all you really need to do is check out the user's profile and look at their disciplinary record—how many strikes they've got, who issued them, and so on and so forth...🤷 Go take a look yourself...

As far as disagreements go—there’s a massive difference between just reporting a post and when a moderator steps in to decide if someone is actually trolling, being abusive, or whatever else (aside from the obvious stuff). On this Politics board, people who can actually hold a constructive conversation are few and far between; most of it is just endless bickering. What one person calls trolling, another might see differently... Just try to keep that in mind, for once.

@granitepilot282/">@@granitepilot282 - 🙂

Look, let's be clear: I'm not out here defending or backing anyone specifically, I'm just speaking for myself.

Daniel Ward87

Oh, look who decided to chime in.
You went ahead and nuked my post and slapped me with a penalty, yet you didn't do a single thing to the provocateur who was busy insulting our diaspora. My response to that guy was actually pretty mild...
What really rubbed me the wrong way was seeing the other moderator's reaction; apparently, a post from a provocateur spewing hate toward our people living outside the Homeland is perfectly fine, otherwise, they would have scrubbed it and given him a warning.

But hey, whatever, we all know how this site works... most of the moderators here act like they're some kind of hardcore leftists playing political games...
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
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joined Oct 2008
#31 ·
bluefalcon14 said:Why on earth are we allowed to start such a blatantly fake thread with an even filthier, more dishonest headline???

Claiming that HVO pensions get eight times more funding than education!

Honestly, you only need to take one look at the U.S. federal budget to see what a massive lie this is...

http://www.treasury.gov/budget_document.pdf


The reality of this topic is pretty simple:

1. It’s just a blatant copy-paste job...

2. It is pure, unadulterated trolling.

If anyone with a different opinion had posted this, the thread would have been locked instantly. But because it’s someone from "our side," it stays open—and the fact that the moderator was clearly watching, noting those 79 deleted posts, just proves how biased the whole thing is.
Daniel Ward87 Daniel Ward87 Active Member
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joined May 2023
#32 ·
Jeremy Diaz4 said:Oh, look who’s talking.
You deleted my post and flagged me as a provocateur just for responding to someone insulting our community abroad. My reply to that troll was actually pretty mild...
But of course, the other moderator took offense. A troll posting hate speech against Americans living overseas is fine, but if I respond, suddenly I'm the problem? He should have just wiped the troll and sent them a warning instead.

Whatever, we all know how this site works. Most of the mods here act like they're some kind of hard-left activists...

Alright, buddy... You called us communists playing at being leftists ☕. Honestly, I couldn't care less about your political leanings or anyone else's on Reddit. I’ve never deleted a post just because I disagreed with it. If that were the case, half this place would be partially or permanently banned by now, and threads would be disappearing way faster. But hey, I let people have their opinions, even if they might be wrong. 🤷

Everyone on the Politics board takes themselves a little too seriously. So what if someone insults the diaspora? Look, generally speaking, people are entitled to an opinion, even a negative one. Some people openly dislike those living abroad, and others openly support them... then everyone just starts accusing each other of trolling or being hateful.

Anyway, this whole debate is getting pretty pointless for me... And if I can add one thing, I'm not surprised that the same people constantly complaining about the Politics mods are the ones making all this noise. 😉

Daniel Ward87
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
79 messages
joined Oct 2008
#33 ·
Daniel Ward87 said:Look, Mr. Moderator... you basically called us all communists playing at being liberals ☕. Personally, I couldn't care less about what you or anyone else on Reddit identifies as politically. I’ve never deleted a post just because I disagreed with it. If that were the case, half the people here would have been partially or permanently banned by now, and posts would be vanishing twice as fast. But instead, I allow others the right to their opinions—and I even allow for the possibility that they might actually be right. 🤷

People in the Politics section tend to get a little too full of themselves. So what if someone insults the diaspora? Look, broadly speaking, people have the right to an opinion, and they certainly have the right to hold a negative one. There are people who despise the diaspora and aren't afraid to say it publicly. On the flip side, there are those who respect them and voice that openly too... and then everyone starts pointing fingers, accusing each other of trolling, being offensive, and so on.

Honestly, this whole debate is becoming a waste of time for me... And if I may add, I'm not exactly shocked by the types of people who constantly complain about how Politics is moderated 😉

Daniel Ward87


If I were to insult Mexicans or Jews the same way people insult the diaspora—specifically Americans from Canada—I can say with absolute certainty that I’d face a permanent ban, if not a lawsuit.

But when people go after Americans from Canada, suddenly it's all "freedom of speech" and "freedom of opinion." 🙄

It comes down to principle. You either approve of it or you don't.
And that's why moderation feels so selective; it seems to depend entirely on whether you share the same political views or not.

Why not just admit it? Why continue this stubborn denial when two moderators—especially Ryan Vaughn7 with his specific way of "handling" things—seem to be proving my point every single day?


PS: This isn't just happening in Politics; you see the same thing in other subreddits too.
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#34 ·
The real issue here is that people either don't get what an insult actually is, or they just don't care to understand... whether that's a lack of perception or just poor upbringing, I'll leave them to ponder that themselves...

If you call someone a communist—well, honestly, that isn't even an insult if they’re actually out there advocating for that lifestyle...

But, if you tell someone they're a pathetic loser? Well, that's just the plain truth...

And if you call someone an idiot... well, yeah...

Look, I'm not going to get bogged down in the reasons why some people fail to recognize when they've been insulted.
Nicole Collins13 Nicole Collins13 Active Member
61 messages
joined Sep 2011
#35 ·
@bluefalcon14, thank God they’re deleting your posts. You’re being as annoying as a stomach flu with all this Mason talk. Seriously, just find his office email on his website and message him there.

On another note, is it just me, or has the Politics section been totally unmoderated lately? Simbe and Dade haven't been around forever, and the other mods aren't exactly stepping up either. I mostly just see Daniel Ward87, Ryan Vaughn7, and Resonator popping up occasionally. Entire threads are just people insulting each other without any consequences. Come on, guys, we need more mods in Politics.

Here's another idea: let's hit anyone insulting others in Politics with an immediate 100-point penalty. Maybe then people would actually cool off.
Tyler Ross86 Tyler Ross86 Member
17 messages
joined Nov 2011
#36 ·
bluefalcon14 said:The mods are all just leftist hacks...

Judging by your handle (little patriot), you're clearly a leftist yourself, so hey—enjoy the party!
Susan Howard63 Susan Howard63 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Feb 2013
#37 ·
I haven't been around here all that long, so I'm honestly just curious about how this whole moderator thing works. Like, what’s the actual criteria for picking people to run this place, and what kind of crowd are we even talking about?

It’s especially frustrating when it comes to these MALE moderators overseeing threads about "American tourist destinations"—specifically looking at that one thread about Florida. I’ll never forget how one of them snapped at me so condescendingly. I had simply called him out for failing to take action or even react to a post where someone was straight-up insulting me. His excuse? "I can't see everything." Fine, I get that. But then he turns around and hits *me* with a red card, telling me, "Just because you think you see everything doesn't mean I can, and here's your red card because you're typing in all caps." Meanwhile, he gets off scot-free. His own post was edited—something was changed, but the insults were still right there—so I don't even know what it looked like before the edit. Why didn't he get a red card or have his post deleted? Instead, I’m the one getting punished just because I dared to question a "top-tier" moderator, and he felt the need to vent his frustration on me with a penalty... Is the guy who insulted me maybe buddies with the moderator? He probably thinks he's some big shot, and since I'm a woman who dared to call him out... well, naturally, the guy who harassed me faces zero consequences, while I get slapped with a red card just for using capital letters. I highly doubt he would've reacted that way if it had been a man. It feels like total double standards. Why is stuff tolerated for some people but strictly forbidden for others?

I honestly couldn't believe it. I mean, is it actually okay for a moderator to behave like that?

That's why I'm asking: what's the logic behind selecting these people? Who are they, really?

I ended up digging through his other posts, and it turns out the guy is part of some hardcore fan club, and he even has a "hooligan" tag under his username. Okay, maybe it's just a joke, but apparently, this is the person who gets to decide what's fair and square...
Adam Collins4 Adam Collins4 Regular
502 messages
joined Apr 2013
#38 ·
So, those are the Men in Black...

Who they actually are—and how they even get picked—is kept under lock and key... people just pass down legends about them like some kind of urban myth passed through generations...
Keith Sanders29 Keith Sanders29 Member
49 messages
joined Apr 2007
#39 ·
Does anyone have a clue where this thread vanished to? It’s like I get fired up twice a year, ready to go, and then someone just dumps a bucket of ice water on me.


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