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Can you catch HIV this way?

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Participants stormyheron4ruggedpanther64Sam Hall15Henry Rodriguez39Donna Hill8placidjackal36Douglas FowlerBenjamin Murphy2Jacob Wood9wanderingcobra2frozencobra37Gary Moore4brightowl23Sarah Wood8swiftjackal6
wanderingcobra2 wanderingcobra2 Member
10 messages
joined Mar 2009
#21 ·
Douglas Fowler said:AIDS, much like any other disease caused by pathogens, can be cured pretty easily. Honestly, it doesn't even matter if you use MMS (which is how I cleared up my own Crohn's), because there are plenty of ways to wipe out pathogens. It’s simple: kill the pathogen. Once you wrap your head around that, you'll realize HIV is just another pathogen, which means you can destroy it easily and without breaking the bank.

What you just typed is pure, unadulterated nonsense. Seriously, please, give me one single example where scientists have actually managed to eliminate the HIV virus from people living with it—people who, thanks to current therapy, live totally normal lives and hold down regular jobs.
Cite a scientific journal or something and share the actual data with us.

Look, if you actually know how to purge HIV from the body, either post the method right here or better yet, contact every major research team in the world that’s been chasing this for decades. If you’ve cracked the code on handling viral mutations and permanently wiping them out, you’re looking at a Nobel Prize in Medicine. I am being dead serious.

"It's simple to kill pathogens"... man, give me a break. If that were true, why are antibiotics losing their edge? Why isn't Vancomycin doing anything against MRSA anymore?
Why are scientists sweating bullets over bacterial mutations? Do you have some magic formula for all that? Why is there a legitimate fear of a super-pandemic from an unknown virus hitting us right now?

And why do they have to tweak the flu shot every single year because scientists are worried they might not have hit the mark—not that the shot kills the virus anyway, it just keeps things manageable while the virus stays one step ahead.

But sure, you claim you know how to destroy every pathogen out there. How, exactly? You got a magic wand or something?

I'm telling you straight: if you truly have the answer to all that, a Nobel Prize in Medicine is practically sitting on your doorstep. You'd be more famous than anyone else who's ever won one.

Just stop posting this garbage. It’s obvious you don't even grasp the fundamental difference between a virus and a bacterium. And don't even get me started on prions.
wanderingcobra2 wanderingcobra2 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#22 ·
Douglas Fowler said:If you're asking what I take for it, the truth is I don't take anything. I’ve dealt with Crohn's myself, and I don't personally know anyone living with HIV or showing symptoms. That doesn't mean I can't see that this stuff actually works.

Besides, you can easily go look up the trial results they had running over in Africa...

Honestly, what you're typing right now is beyond top-tier nonsense. 😛

Come on, Douglas, why don't you explain to everyone how you managed to cure your Crohn's? If this supplement of yours is really that much of a miracle worker, you'll be picking up a Nobel Prize any day now.

Hey Sam Hall15, just close this thread already. It's pretty clear Douglas thinks he's found some kind of industrial bleach—like Clorox—so at this rate, we might as well start treating people like toilet bowls. 😁
frozencobra37 frozencobra37 Member
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joined May 2005
#23 ·
Henry Rodriguez39 said:Does anyone know the HIV positivity rate in America?

That percentage looks huge, but there are only about two hundred registered cases, maybe double that if you count estimates. Once you subtract kids and the elderly, you’re looking at maybe a few dozen people in your specific demographic. My god.
Gary Moore4 Gary Moore4 Member
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joined Jan 2008
#24 ·
😂 Honestly, I had to laugh 🤣 So, she was sleeping with protection involving four guys, and you think touching her with your fingers could actually infect you? Even if you’re certain she has HIV—which, honestly, seems pretty unlikely to me—I'd say the odds of you catching anything are basically zero.

And here I was thinking I was the hypochondriac 😁 😂

How old are you anyway? Sorry if it came up already, might have missed it in all this 🙂
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#25 ·
stormyheron4 said:No offense, but the mod really should kick you off this board officially. It looks like you’re missing a few screws. This forum is for sharing experiences. Medical treatment is what doctors and actual institutions handle. The whole world knows HIV isn't just some little seasonal cold like you're making it out to be, so regardless of how ridiculous the question was that 54321 asked, you don't get a pass to post something even stupider.

Unfortunately, anyone can post whatever nonsense they want since this is an open forum for opinions. But I think any sane person can tell the difference between actual info and total garbage.

I was reading about that supposed "cure" for HIV. This doctor claims he saved almost everyone except those who were too far gone to be helped even after the HIV virus was cleared. Honestly, I don't know what else to say. Maybe those gullible people who believe this stuff just end up getting what's coming to them.

I knew a guy once who actually drank crude oil and god knows what else because some "healer" told him it would cure his cancer. Well, now he's resting at Arlington National Cemetery. Hope he's at peace.
Douglas Fowler Douglas Fowler Member
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joined Oct 2008
#26 ·
daka said:No offense, but the moderator should probably remove you from this forum—it's their job, really. It feels like you're missing the point here... This is a place for sharing experiences, not for medical advice. Real doctors and institutions handle the actual treatment. Most people in the US and everywhere else know that HIV isn't just some minor cough you can brush off, so regardless of how silly the question was, there's no need for an even more ridiculous response.

stormyheron4 said:I've read about that "cure" for HIV... that doctor claims he saved almost everyone except those who were already too far gone to be helped even after the virus was cleared. I don't really know what to say to that—maybe those who choose to believe it just end up getting what they deserve...

Regarding the cure for AIDS (as with any pathogen-based illness)—I actually started a separate thread regarding alternative treatments, so I won't get into the specifics here, since we aren't allowed to discuss alternative methods directly...

And as for the idea that highly paid professionals—yes, because it's an incredibly profitable industry—get to decide what can and cannot be cured... well, I've decided to make my own choices. I used my own judgment, successfully managed my Crohn's, and realized that much of what is said about diseases and treatments is just a lie designed to keep the pharmaceutical industry at the top of the profit ladder...

If you don't want to believe it, you don't have to. If you don't want to try what alternatives offer, that's fine too. I'm not forcing anyone to use alternative—or any other—treatments. I'm simply mentioning that a cure exists—which, by the way, actually works—and the choice is yours...

I know it’s very popular to silence people nowadays. But let's look at the reality—even if this method caused as many deaths as conventional medicine does (and honestly, nobody has been cured of AIDS by conventional medicine, whereas many have through MMS), I'm still not forcing anyone's hand. Everyone chooses for themselves. I just think people deserve to know about the method... I don't think they *have* to use it...

And just as an aside—all those individuals involved in the testing in Africa who received MMS treatment were originally discharged from the hospital as hopeless cases—basically, they were sent away to die somewhere else instead of in a hospital bed. 60% of them were back to working within three days, and 40% were back on their feet within a month (not after a full month, but sometime between day three and day thirty)... two people passed away. All 390 participants had been released from the hospital because they were considered terminal. In the eyes of conventional medicine, they were already dead. 388 survived. Two did not. They were all in the terminal stages of AIDS. If you don't believe me, that's perfectly fine...
wanderingcobra2 wanderingcobra2 Member
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joined Mar 2009
#27 ·
Douglas Fowler said:I used my brain, kicked Crohn's to the curb, and realized all this talk about the disease and its "treatments" is just a massive scam designed to keep Big Pharma at the top of the food chain.
If you don't want to believe me, fine. If you don't want to look into alternative options, that's your call too. I’m not out here forcing anyone to go the holistic route (or any other route, for that matter). I'm just pointing out that a cure exists—and by the way, it actually works—so the ball is in your court.

Oh, okay, so you're a total genius then. I honestly can't figure out why millions of people across the country haven't just "used their brains" to permanently kick Crohn's to the curb. Instead, they’re stuck dealing with surgeries and living in constant fear of when their next flare-up is going to hit.
I guess everyone else is just an idiot waiting for some brilliant wisdom to drop from your head.
Since you've supposedly mastered curing chronic illness once and for all, why aren't you out there posting advice on every medical forum under the sun?

There are whole threads dedicated to cancer, too. I bet those folks would be cured in a heartbeat if they just tried your "magic water," especially the ones in the terminal stages with metastases everywhere. So come on, go help them... what are you waiting for? People are dying... hello?? Where's this miracle cure at???
Douglas Fowler Douglas Fowler Member
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joined Oct 2008
#28 ·
wanderingcobra2 said:Oh, you're just a genius. I honestly don't get why millions of people worldwide don't just use their heads and permanently cure their Crohn's—instead, they have to deal with surgeries, suffer through it, and live in constant fear of when a flare-up will hit.
I guess everyone is just waiting for some brilliant advice straight from your brain.
Since you've clearly mastered curing this chronic illness, why aren't you out there advising all those poor souls on their forums?

There’s even a thread about cancer. I bet they'd all be cured instantly if they tried your magic water—especially the ones in terminal stages with metastases everywhere. So go ahead, help them... what are you waiting for? People are dying... hello... where is this magic water???

Look, if you've been paying any attention to my posts, I've shared what I know here (before I was banned) and in alternative medicine circles too—just trying to tell people what needs to be done.

At the end of the day, I can't force anyone to get healthy. My goal—my mission, if you want to call it that—is simply to let people know a cure exists. Whether they use it or not is entirely up to them... I just provide the info regarding MMS. If someone doesn't want to, that's fine. It doesn't bother me.

And like I said, this isn't just for Crohn's; it affects almost any ailment.

The "magic water" is sodium chlorite, which generates chlorine dioxide. For those interested, the details are in the post about using MMS in alternative medicine. And of course, if anyone wants more specifics, feel free to ask me—either over in the alternative medicine section or via private message. I'll help as much as I can... though I don't claim to know everything.

Like I've already said, and I'll say again, the cure exists. Now that you know, it's up to you whether you want to see how it works or not. My only purpose was to let you know. Use your own judgment—read the materials I mention, do your own research, and then decide. You're capable of thinking for yourselves. Make an informed choice now that you know the option is there.

Thanks for listening, and stay healthy.
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#29 ·
Is it actually possible to catch HIV, or hepatitis B or C at the dentist? Has anyone here dealt with this personally, or even just heard of someone else who has...
thanks
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#30 ·
brightowl23 said:Is it actually possible to catch HIV, Hep B, or Hep C at the dentist? Has anyone here dealt with this personally, heard any stories, or maybe know someone who did?
thanks

Theoretically, sure, it could happen. But honestly, I’ve never heard of a confirmed case of that happening. Not since we moved into the era of modern dentistry with all the strict sterilization and disinfection protocols in place. Unless you're dealing with some shady dentist who completely ignores basic hygiene and sanitization rules, you should be fine.
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#31 ·
Thanks, I’m asking because my lymphocyte count has been high and my segmentation has been low for three months now. I was dealing with some scary tachycardia and arrhythmia issues too—felt pretty terrible for a while. They told me it was just some virus, but even after three months, my temp keeps hitting 99-100°F, sometimes 100.4°F, and I’ve been feeling weak and dizzy... I had an ultrasound on my heart, abdomen, and thyroid, and everything came back fine. Labs show nothing else, and my liver enzymes are normal, so I'm honestly just confused. Then they suggested I test for Hep B, C, and HIV, which caught me off guard since I've never had sex, don't do drugs, don't share needles, and haven't even gotten a tattoo or piercing. It left me wondering if there's actually any reason for me to go through with those tests...😢
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#32 ·
I only went to that dentist once when I was really struggling, and honestly, he didn't strike me as much of an expert. I couldn't even tell if he was actually administering anesthesia properly, but maybe that’s just because I didn't know what I was doing back then... now my biggest worry is wondering if he even sterilized everything before starting on me...
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#33 ·
given everything I just laid out, what would you guys suggest... should I go ahead and get tested or not? sorry if I'm being a pain
stormyheron4 stormyheron4 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2009
#34 ·
brightowl23 said:Given everything I just laid out, what do you guys think? Should I go ahead and get tested or skip it? Sorry if I'm being annoying here.

Definitely hit up your primary care doctor first. Let them handle the referral. At the end of the day, they're the pros who know your history best.
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#35 ·
lol my doctors... I've seen three or four different specialists now and nobody can tell me a thing about these fevers, the dizziness, or my blood work. I feel like I'm just flying blind out here. Honestly, if I hadn't stumbled onto these forums to get some kind of lead on a diagnosis, I wouldn't even know where to start. My doctors just seem totally clueless and won't even give me a referral for anything, even when I ask directly... I've just had nothing but bad luck with them lately... what can you even say...
brightowl23 brightowl23 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#36 ·
It’s always the same with them—either "just go home," "get over it," or "do whatever you want." That’s why I keep bothering everyone on these forums, just hoping to actually learn something...
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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joined Aug 2007
#37 ·
If you actually bother to do a little digging online, you'll find plenty of info on HIV. Honestly, I feel like here in the States, the disease gets way too much hype regarding how "easy" it is to catch. If you look at the numbers from 1986 through 2008, the total number of people infected who eventually developed AIDS and passed away was under 1,000—specifically, just a few hundred people. In the grand scheme of things, that’s a tiny amount. Over half of those cases involved homosexual contact, the rest were heterosexual, there were a handful involving drug use, and I think there were maybe 11 cases where nobody even knew how they caught it. And we're talking about a span of over twenty years.
Some people even go as far as claiming you can't catch HIV through French kissing or even oral sex. They say if you're the one performing, the risk is so negligible it's basically nonexistent. Of course, some people will always disagree, but seriously, where does it end? Are we all supposed to believe we'd catch HIV just from making out? Young people are constantly hooking up out in the world; if that were true, everyone would be dead by now.
ruggedpanther64 ruggedpanther64 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#38 ·
It’s funny how you apply that kind of logic here, where people just love to make a mountain out of a molehill over absolutely everything...
swiftjackal6 swiftjackal6 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2009
#39 ·
get a grip, man. you can't just go out and catch HIV on a whim like it's nothing

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