Trip Report: Canada (Montreal) - June 8, 2008

Robert Reed5 said:I think the car reacts much faster to 124 miles, rather than accelerating from 50 miles

You're absolutely right🤣

The kinetic energy of a body is inversely proportional to velocity🙏

Rosberg admits he earned his penalty

Unlike Lewis Hamilton, Nico Rosberg is actually stepping up and claiming that the penalty he picked up for that pit lane mess during Sunday's Canadian Grand Prix was totally deserved.

Just to recap, the FIA is dropping both Hamilton and Rosberg ten spots back from wherever they qualify for the French Grand Prix because of that sloppy driving.

According to The New York Times, Rosberg isn't sugarcoating it: "I think I deserve the penalty, just like Hamilton. He didn't slow down, and neither did I, so we're both stuck with the same fate."

"I missed the red light, plain and simple, so of course there's a penalty. I messed up."

"Look, if Hamilton had slowed down, I would've had a much better chance at figuring out what was happening. But instead, he kept charging along and then suddenly slammed into... (well, Raikkonen's Ferrari, oops)

Speaking to Motorline, Rosberg pointed out that having cars just sitting there at the end of the pit lane is definitely not standard procedure. "In my entire career, I've never even thought to look at the signal when exiting the pits."

He also thinks this penalty basically nukes his chances for the French Grand Prix. "I might as well forget about Indianapolis Motor Speedway since I'll probably be starting somewhere around eighteenth or nineteenth."

it just goes to show that Rosberg is the kind of guy who can actually own up to his mistakes, which honestly makes him look like a bigger man than Hamilton, even though if you ask me, Hamilton is the one more at fault here

darkmarlin16 said:Rosberg admits he deserved the penalty

It just goes to show Rosberg’s actually got some integrity—he owns his mistakes. Honestly, that makes him look way classier than Hamilton, even if I still think Hamilton was more in the wrong here.

Hamilton is definitely the one at fault. If Rosberg gets slapped with a 10-place penalty, Hamilton should've been looking at a 20-place drop. Rosberg was tucked right behind him and didn't have much of a view—didn't catch the light immediately—but at least he was watching the car ahead and nearly managed to stop.

And Hamilton couldn't see the lights because of Kubica?! Give me a break. What was he thinking? That Kubica was gonna pull up to a toll booth and pay a fine or something?

Oh, come on. There's no way he missed the lights. Don't fall for that. He saw them perfectly fine; it was just Telac who wasn't paying attention.

He probably messed up because he wasn't even looking at the lights, which just goes to show you how much experience and actual skill really matter when things get intense.

Roger Wright94 said:Is this hilarious, pathetic, or just straight-up tragic?
I mean, who even knows how many times people try to claim Michael Schumacher only snagged certain points, wins, or heaven forbid, championships, because guys like Barichel were basically ordered to step aside.

Pathetic, seriously, just pathetic!
As if the king of the track actually relied on Barichel to get anything done. Give me a break!

Just take a quick look at MSC's stats and tell me—honestly—how many "handouts" did he supposedly receive according to you?

The reality is, everyone knew who the number one driver was, and that lead driver always gets the strategy designed to grab a better spot over the number two guy. It doesn't have to be a blatant pass on the track or in the pits for them to be considered the team leader.
Every single title at Ferrari was won that way.
It's sad, really.🤣

Regarding the light signals, I honestly feel like the FIA (and by that, I mean the governing body, not some moderator 😬) needs to be called out here. It seems incredibly strange that Buton managed to catch the green light right ahead of 😉 Kubica, while both he and Kimi were stuck facing a red. I can't help but wonder why that happened 🤷

neonharbor18 said:Regarding the pit lights—the FIA needs to be held accountable (and I mean the governing body, not some moderator 😬). It makes zero sense that Buton was allowed to pull out on green just before 😉 Kubica came through, while both he and Kimi were stuck on red. Why would that happen? 🤷

The FIA definitely deserves a penalty for such inconsistent signaling.☕

neonharbor18 said:When it comes to those starting lights, I really feel like the FIA needs some serious accountability here—and no, I’m not talking about the moderators, I mean the actual governing body itself. 😬It feels incredibly strange that Button caught the green light right before he had to pull into the pits, don't you think?😉Why did both Kubica and Kimi end up behind the wheel of a Ferrari? It’s an interesting question when you step back and look at the trajectory of their careers at that time.🤷

Jason Campbell70 said:The FIA really needs to be held accountable here. Isn't it frustrating when the officiating feels this inconsistent? It seems like they’re being far too quick to wave those red flags, and frankly, it feels unjust.☕

One really has to wonder if we should be asking some tough questions here—or perhaps even holding Charlie Whiting accountable. After all, he’s the one ultimately responsible for the light signals, isn't he? ☕

mistybear87 said:I can't even begin to wrap my head around how we got here, honestly. It feels like one of those long, rainy afternoons in Seattle where you just stare out the window wondering why everything keeps falling apart, especially when you look at how things have shifted since that whole mess back during the 2008 Montreal Grand Prix. I remember sitting in a diner, nursing a lukewarm coffee, thinking that maybe things would eventually settle down, but looking at the current state of affairs, it’s pretty clear we were just being optimistic for no reason.I honestly feel like we should be looking to hold Charlie Whiting accountable for this mess, especially since he was the one ultimately responsible for managing all that light signaling. ☕

I don't know where they were getting their signals from, but it looked like they were just pulling random numbers out of thin air straight from the Ferrari pit wall.😕😉

Arthur Doyle70 said:And where exactly was that flickering light coming from? It looked like it was right out of Ferrari's pit box.😕😉

The starting lights ignite from that single housing positioned right above the grid, though I suspect there might be others tucked away back there as well. 🙂

I’m thinking about just putting all these idiots on ignore, but I’m worried I won't have much left to actually read in this PDF. Then again, with the kind of nonsense being posted, maybe that's for the best. You can ignore the opinions, but you can't ignore the damage they do to the community.

Good grief, are you people still bickering over the starting lights?😲 It’s honestly childish—really...
FIA, just make a final call and end this nonsense already...

lonebison19 said:Good grief, are we seriously still bickering over traffic lights?😲 It’s almost like watching a playground argument...
FIA, please, just make a final ruling already and let us move on...

You've got a point there; *lock, stock, and barrel.*