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Running Windows XP on a SATA hard drive

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Participants urbanotter5Roger Miller8velvethound34Arthur TorresMichelle Bennett5Jonathan Edwards2Frank Wilson2Jesse Sullivan2
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#1 ·
Here is the situation...

I have a new Dell Latitude laptop equipped with a SATA hard drive. When I attempt to run the installation from an original Windows XP CD, it prompts me to load the hard drive drivers from a Floppy disk. I don't own a Floppy disk, nor do I have a USB Floppy drive. Dell customer support sent over some instructions on how to bypass the floppy requirement, along with links for the drivers and a program called Rufus...
I now have all the necessary drivers—hard drive, video, audio, everything—plus Rufus, but the actual procedure remains unclear to me. If anyone here knows the exact steps to get this running on a SATA hard drive, please walk me through it. If there is already a thread covering this, just send me the link.

Essentially, I am confused about the sequence—do I need to move the drivers to the hard drive first, then launch Rufus, or how does this work...
Roger Miller8 Roger Miller8 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2008
#2 ·
When you're running the XPji installer, it asks if you want to press F6 to load third-party drivers. You’ll need to have a Floppy disk ready with those specific SATA drivers for your hard drive.

Without them, Windows XP won't even see your hard drive. It's like it isn't even there. No drivers means no drive.

Since most laptops these days don't have a Floppy disk drive, I'm guessing yours doesn't either. In that case, you'd use Rufus to slip those drivers onto the optical media along with the Windows XP installation files.

I think they told you that you have to use another computer to create that custom Rufus installation and burn it.
If that’s the only computer you have at home... well... maybe head over to a friend's place and burn it there.

Have you tried hitting F6, popping out the Windows XP CD, and then putting in a CD containing the SATA drivers instead?

Otherwise, you're looking at the same process using Rufus.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Insta...F6-47807.shtml

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Just in case it's still a bit fuzzy.

Windows XP can't communicate with SATA drives without those drivers.
It handles Floppy disks and IDE drives just fine, so that's where those drivers usually belong.
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#3 ·
That's right. I don't have a Floppy, nor do I have a USB Floppy drive. I have another computer at home where I've already downloaded NLite and the drivers. I just need someone to walk me through the process—step by step—on what exactly I should do next.

I haven't quite figured out the order of operations—should it be NLite, the drivers, or the Windows XP installation disc first? My understanding is that I need to move the drivers onto the hard drive, then run NLite to integrate everything before starting the installation. Am I on the right track, or am I missing something?
velvethound34 velvethound34 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2006
#4 ·
urbanotter5 said:Yeah, you got that right, I don't have a Floppy, not even a USB one. I've actually got another PC at home where I already grabbed NLite and all the drivers, so I guess I'm just wondering—like, step by step—what am I actually supposed to do here

since I didn't really wrap my head around what comes first—is it NLite, the drivers, or the Windows XP install disc? From what I gather, maybe I should put the drivers on the hard drive first, then run NLite, and then use that to handle the whole installation process. Is that right? Or am I totally off base?

Don't make things harder than they need to be, honestly. Just grab a Vista disc from someone; those usually know how to install themselves onto a SATA drive without needing any extra drivers. 🙂
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#5 ·
Do you think it’s worth the investment? Also, is there a thread on here with instructions for burning a Vista disc?

I know they’re supposed to be straightforward, but honestly, some tiny detail always slips through the cracks, and if you miss it, you'll be staring at your monitor with bloodshot eyes.
Arthur Torres Arthur Torres Newcomer
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joined Apr 2007
#6 ·
Look, if you haven't quite grasped this yet...

The thing is, Windows XP just doesn't know how to talk to SATA drives unless you feed it the right drivers first.
It handles Floppy and IDE drives—you know, your old-school CDs, DVDs, hard drives, and Floppy disks—just fine, so those are usually the best spots to stash your DRIVERS.


Since we’re already down this rabbit hole, I’ll tell ya—I’ve got this 160 GB Seagate SATA drive sitting in my rig, and honestly? I never once messed around with specific SATA drivers. I didn't even bother hitting F6 during the install, and the whole thing just cruised through perfectly. Even when I swapped out the motherboard later and had to reinstall Windows, it happened all over again without asking for a single driver. It was a totally standard XP install, no Service Pack included at the time either. Now, I'm sitting here scratching my head... how is that even possible? Why does it work for me without any special drivers? 😕
Michelle Bennett5 Michelle Bennett5 Active Member
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joined Dec 2007
#7 ·
Wait, does a drive actually need its own special driver?
I mean, isn't there just a standard command set [IDE, SATA, RAID] or something? Most of the time you’re basically just talking to the drive through the motherboard BIOS anyway—just feeding it head-cylinder-sector info and calling it a day.
Sure, maybe there's some minor optimization happening under the hood, but I figured there was a universal baseline. Like with graphics cards, right? Doesn't matter what brand you've got, you can pretty much always force them into VGA or VESA mode if things go sideways?
urbanotter5 urbanotter5 MemberOP
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joined Jun 2006
#8 ·
Arthur Torres said:Since we're on the subject, I have this 160 GB Seagate SATA drive, and I’ve never once had to manually load specific SATA drivers. I didn't even bother hitting F6 during setup; everything just worked. I even swapped out my motherboard recently and reinstalled Windows, and again, no driver prompts. It was a standard XP installation, no Service Pack included at the time. I honestly can't wrap my head around why it works so seamlessly without those extra drivers. 😕

That depends on which version of Windows you're running. Some later XP builds, like Borg or Nemesis, have the drivers baked right in. Apparently, Vista is the same way.
Jonathan Edwards2 Jonathan Edwards2 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2007
#9 ·
urbanotter5 said:Alright, let me lay this out...

I’ve got this new HP nx7300 laptop featuring a SATA hard drive. Here's the snag: whenever I try to kick off the installation using an original Windows XP CD, the system demands that I load the hard drive drivers from a Floppy. Problem is, I don't own a Floppy drive, nor do I have a USB Floppy adapter lying around. I reached out to HP customer support, and they were actually pretty helpful! They sent over instructions on how to bypass the Floppy requirement, along with links for the necessary drivers and the nLite software...
So now I'm sitting here with all the drivers on my hard drive—graphics, sound, the whole nine yards—plus nLite, but the actual step-by-step process is still a total mystery to me. If anyone here knows the exact drill for getting this installed on a SATA hard drive, please walk me through it. If there’s already a dedicated thread covering this, just drop the link!

Basically, I'm stuck on the sequence—do I need to move the drivers to the hard drive first, then run nLite, or is there a different flow to this whole thing?


I'm running into the exact same issue,
could you please post those SATA driver links right here?
Thanks a million!
Frank Wilson2 Frank Wilson2 Newcomer
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joined Apr 2007
#10 ·
urbanotter5 said:Alright, here’s the deal...

I've got this new HP nx7300 laptop with a SATA hard drive. But when I try to kick off the installation from an original Windows XP CD, it keeps bugging out, asking me to load the hard drive drivers from a Floppy. The thing is, I don't own a Floppy, and I don't have a USB Floppy drive either. I reached out to HP customer support, and they sent over some instructions on how to burn everything without needing a Floppy, along with links for the drivers and a program called NLite...
So now I've got all the drivers—hard drive, video, audio, the whole nine yards—plus NLite, but the actual process still feels like a total mystery to me. If anyone here actually knows the exact steps to get this running on a SATA hard drive, could you please walk me through it? If there's already a thread about this somewhere, just drop the link.

Basically, I'm just lost on the order of operations—do I need to put the drivers on the hard drive first, then run NLite, or how does this whole thing actually work?

If you jump into the BIOS and switch the SATA setting from "Native" to... I can't remember the exact option, maybe "Disabled" or something similar... then everything should run normally after that. You won't even need the driver.
Jesse Sullivan2 Jesse Sullivan2 Active Member
58 messages
joined Dec 2010
#11 ·
If you're messing around with a Linux based OSEv and it's acting all weird because it can't find your SATA drive during setup, you might want to try toggling that "Compatibility" setting in your BIOS under the SATA options. It's a little trick that sometimes clears things up.

I'm guessing Windows XP might get just as confused by the same thing.
Frank Wilson2 Frank Wilson2 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Apr 2007
#12 ·
The big boss said:says:
If you're dealing with Linux-based operating systems that just won't recognize your SATA drive during setup, you might want to head into your BIOS settings and try toggling the "Compatibility" mode for the SATA controller. It can be a bit of a headache when they don't talk to each other right away.

I’d bet my bottom dollar that Windows XP would get just as confused by that setting.

Windows XP is definitely up and running in this specific scenario... I actually got it installed just the other night. Usually, if you look on the HP website for an NX7300 model, the drivers are nowhere to be found. But, funny enough, if you grab the ones meant for the NX7400, everything works perfectly.

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