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Mexican propaganda in the Women's Corner - how much longer are we going to tolerate this??

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coppermarlin13 coppermarlin13 Active MemberOP
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joined Aug 2006
#21 ·
stormyraven14 said:Hey, don't start yelling at me now—it’s not my fault you didn't read the intro... 😢

I just went back and read the whole thing 🤣:

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=29935298&postcount=1
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 Member
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joined Mar 2014
#22 ·
coppermarlin13 said:I just went back and read the whole thing 🤣:

http://www.reddit.com/showpost.php?p=29935298&postcount=1

Are you still not getting what this is about?
And honestly, what you're calling an "example" isn't one—it's just a blatant ad hominem attack because someone holds a different opinion.

🤷

Man... look. I’m not your mother. And neither is redmarlin3. No one should be trying to lecture you on the difference between interpreting a text versus interpreting a person... especially here on Reddit... in a thread about something else entirely.
Maria Nelson12 Maria Nelson12 Member
37 messages
joined Aug 2010
#23 ·
This looks like a textbook case of a moderator spinning things. I’ve looked into what actually happened here, and it seems pretty clear that the whole mess started because of a classic revisionist move—you know, where the aggressors get painted as the good guys while the victims (in this case, the mothers of those lost in the war) are treated like the bad ones. If a post like that is allowed to stay on the forum as the "official truth," then all the other posts showing the opposite side have to stay too. Either that, or you just wipe everything out. You can't just leave one specific perspective up and label it as "constructive" and "thoughtful." Doing that is just selective information filtering meant to manipulate the narrative. They force one viewpoint on everyone, call it deep and reasoned, and then scrub any opposing arguments by labeling them homophobic in the follow-up explanations. It’s honestly pathetic, especially since the post that actually kicked off this entire debate was clearly the homophobic one, and it's pretty obvious who the aggressors are, who the victims are, who the hypocrite is (Tadić), and who is being sincere (those mothers).
Tyler Bishop56 Tyler Bishop56 Member
43 messages
joined Dec 2007
#24 ·
👋 Woohoo!

coppermarlin13 said:I’m really curious about why every single voice that pushes back against Mexican sentiment—or anything that doesn't perfectly align with their narrative—gets suffocated over at the Women's Corner. Is it because the moderator, redmarlin3, is a Mexican herself and finds this uncomfortable? 🤷

For instance, on this specific thread regarding what people truly condemn, my post was deleted. It was completely relevant and written as a direct response to this disgusting post:

Other posts acting as reactions and condemnations (which is the whole point of this topic) were also wiped out. So, I have to ask: why is the moderator redmarlin3 doing this? 🤷 And why is she threatening us with bans if we mention Tadić, Mexicans, or anything remotely related to Mexican identity on a casual subforum like this (keeping in mind this is a thread specifically meant for condemnation)?

What exactly drives the moderator redmarlin3 to delete on-topic posts? And why did my specific post deserve to be scrubbed? 🤷 Was it because I was standing up for the mothers of El Paso? 😕

I honestly don't see what her nationality has to do with any of this. Like, seriously, where is the connection? Where she was born doesn't say a single thing about how good she is at her job.
Suggesting that redmarlin3 is just defending certain viewpoints because of his background is honestly disgusting. It’s gross, sure, but it’s also just plain stupid—especially since redmarlin3 isn't even that nationality. 😉

Honestly, redmarlin3 shouldn't have nuked those posts. They were just people saying what we all clearly stand against, which is exactly what the thread was about in the first place. I mean, one person's out here dragging Tadić, someone else is calling out the moderates, and another person is overanalyzing some Superman reboot... it’s all just personal opinion. That's not something a moderator should be stepping in to censor. It's just how people feel.

coppermarlin13 said:But wait, since when is talking about Politics off-limits in the Women's Corner? And are we really not allowed to judge things here? Especially in a thread specifically designed to call out nonsense?

coppermarlin13 is absolutely spot on here. Honestly, they're totally right.

redmarlin3 said:The Jezebel post [which is only partially quoted here and taken out of context] was left up because it’s completely on-topic, constructive, thoughtful, detailed, and offers a really interesting critical perspective on the situation.
The very first reply quoting it was aimed almost exclusively at bashing Jezebel itself ("you clearly have serious issues grasping the subject matter," "you don't understand anything," "only an idiot could write posts like this," etc.). That's why it was deleted.
The next few posts deal with Tadić and Srebrenica, which just doesn't belong here on ZK. So, they were removed.
The posts following the warning focus on my moderation. That's why they were (mostly) deleted.
Not a single post was given a full ban.
Yes, I can see for myself that I messed up here.

P.S. Endure, not endure.

Why shouldn't Tadić or Srebrenica be discussed on Women's Corner? If that section is strictly reserved for Politics, then why isn't Balić tucked away in Sports? Why does he have to show up here too, just making things messy?

coppermarlin13 said:🤣

This feels like an explanation to the admins about why they should back you (and people like you), while simultaneously justifying blatant moderation in Women's Corner—where threads are threatened with closure (or just closed), posts are wiped, strikes are handed out, and female and male users are attacked just for daring to criticize Mexicans once? Or Mexican politics? Or American policy toward Mexico and Mexicans? Or anything else related to Mexicans? Because that is the actual reality of how Women's Corner is moderated (along with a whole host of other unmentioned issues).

Why aren't you deleting, say, Tyler Bishop56's constant trolling and nonsense? Why aren't you warning him or pushing him to actually engage in Politics? Or what about those who constantly insult and disparage Americans and/or the Catholic faith? The ones who turn every single damn thread into a platform to spit venom based on the things mentioned above?

And that vague, insulting, controversial post from Jezebel—which you want to frame as reasonable, critical, and thoughtful for some equally vague reason (presumably to convince anyone lacking even a shred of intelligence that deleting responses and reactions is justified)—is a perfect reflection of what constantly happens in Women's Corner and what you are trying to pass off as "reasonable" through low-intelligence tactics. And it'll probably work, given the crowd that gathers on this forum (whether they are the moderators and admins who put you in that seat, or the users themselves—not just your friends, but regular folks who don't know any better and just pose). 🤮

It's also quite interesting how you forbid reasoned debate about Politics in Women's Corner. I suppose it's because Women's Corner is reserved strictly for the idiots and airheads who aren't capable of an actual argument and can only engage in mindless chatter (which isn't banned). 🤮

🙏🙏

😕 I’m not even trolling. 😳 I only do my heavy lifting on Fridays.

coppermarlin13 said:🤣

This feels like an explanation to the admins about why they should back you (and people like you), while simultaneously justifying blatant moderation in Women's Corner—where threads are threatened with closure (or just closed), posts are wiped, strikes are handed out, and female and male users are attacked just for daring to criticize Mexicans once? Or Mexican politics? Or American policy toward Mexico and Mexicans? Or anything else related to Mexicans? Because that is the actual reality of how Women's Corner is moderated (along with a whole host of other unmentioned issues).

Why aren't you deleting, say, Tyler Bishop56's constant trolling and nonsense? Why aren't you warning him or pushing him to actually engage in Politics? Or what about those who constantly insult and disparage Americans and/or the Catholic faith? The ones who turn every single damn thread into a platform to spit venom based on the things mentioned above?

And that vague, insulting, controversial post from Jezebel—which you want to frame as reasonable, critical, and thoughtful for some equally vague reason (presumably to convince anyone lacking even a shred of intelligence that deleting responses and reactions is justified)—is a perfect reflection of what constantly happens in Women's Corner and what you are trying to pass off as "reasonable" through low-intelligence tactics. And it'll probably work, given the crowd that gathers on this forum (whether they are the moderators and admins who put you in that seat, or the users themselves—not just your friends, but regular folks who don't know any better and just pose). 🤮

It's also quite interesting how you forbid reasoned debate about Politics in Women's Corner. I suppose it's because Women's Corner is reserved strictly for the idiots and airheads who aren't capable of an actual argument and can only engage in mindless chatter (which isn't banned). 🤮

🙏🙏

Go find your own stimulation elsewhere, honey. You know where to look. Leave me out of your Politics.🙄

coppermarlin13 said:🤣

This feels like an explanation to the admins about why they should back you (and people like you), while simultaneously justifying blatant moderation in Women's Corner—where threads are threatened with closure (or just closed), posts are wiped, strikes are handed out, and female and male users are attacked just for daring to criticize Mexicans once? Or Mexican politics? Or American policy toward Mexico and Mexicans? Or anything else related to Mexicans? Because that is the actual reality of how Women's Corner is moderated (along with a whole host of other unmentioned issues).

Why aren't you deleting, say, Tyler Bishop56's constant trolling and nonsense? Why aren't you warning him or pushing him to actually engage in Politics? Or what about those who constantly insult and disparage Americans and/or the Catholic faith? The ones who turn every single damn thread into a platform to spit venom based on the things mentioned above?

And that vague, insulting, controversial post from Jezebel—which you want to frame as reasonable, critical, and thoughtful for some equally vague reason (presumably to convince anyone lacking even a shred of intelligence that deleting responses and reactions is justified)—is a perfect reflection of what constantly happens in Women's Corner and what you are trying to pass off as "reasonable" through low-intelligence tactics. And it'll probably work, given the crowd that gathers on this forum (whether they are the moderators and admins who put you in that seat, or the users themselves—not just your friends, but regular folks who don't know any better and just pose). 🤮

It's also quite interesting how you forbid reasoned debate about Politics in Women's Corner. I suppose it's because Women's Corner is reserved strictly for the idiots and airheads who aren't capable of an actual argument and can only engage in mindless chatter (which isn't banned). 🤮

🙏🙏

Honestly, you talk trash about Catholicism way more than I ever do. You bring it up all the time, yet you barely actually live it. Being Catholic isn't some little accessory we wear to show which tribe we belong to; it's a way of life, one that you shamelessly mock with your endless posts full of nothing but unhinged hate.

Jesus preached something completely different, my dear little coppermarlin13.
Henry Cox78 Henry Cox78 Regular
286 messages
joined Apr 2011
#25 ·
The absolute smoking gun admins need to finally shut down Women's Corner. 🙂
Tyler Bishop56 Tyler Bishop56 Member
43 messages
joined Dec 2007
#26 ·
Henry Cox78 said:The absolute smoking gun admins need to finally shut down Women's Corner. 🙂

Look, if you shut down Women's Corner, you won't see a damn thing. 🤷
Eric Collins5 Eric Collins5 Active Member
91 messages
joined Mar 2013
#27 ·
Tyler Bishop56 said:Look, if you shut down Women's Corner, you won't see a damn thing. 🤷

My ex-wife, Anida, wants to know if you're single.

😳
stormyraven14 stormyraven14 Member
25 messages
joined Mar 2014
#28 ·
Maria Nelson12 said:This looks like a textbook case of a moderator spinning things. I’ve looked into what actually happened here, and it seems pretty clear that the whole mess started because of a classic revisionist move—you know, where the aggressors get painted as the good guys while the victims (in this case, the mothers of those lost in the war) are treated like the bad ones. If a post like that is allowed to stay on the forum as the "official truth," then all the other posts showing the opposite side have to stay too. Either that, or you just wipe everything out. You can't just leave one specific perspective up and label it as "constructive" and "thoughtful." Doing that is just selective information filtering meant to manipulate the narrative. They force one viewpoint on everyone, call it deep and reasoned, and then scrub any opposing arguments by labeling them homophobic in the follow-up explanations. It’s honestly pathetic, especially since the post that actually kicked off this entire debate was clearly the homophobic one, and it's pretty obvious who the aggressors are, who the victims are, who the hypocrite is (Tadić), and who is being sincere (those mothers).

Look, if anyone is confused about why certain things were deleted—it’s because sentences like "it’s obviously blah blah..." always trigger these endless back-and-forth arguments. They stop being about the topic and turn into nothing more than blood feuds and twenty-year-old traumas that are impossible to moderate... and frankly, they aren't even necessary because they're totally off-topic.

If Jezebel stated she sees certain judgments as coming from those mothers, and then someone jumps in to say Mexicans are idiots or that Tadić is a hypocrite—how on earth is that considered on-topic?!?!?!

You can debate the reasons behind that judgment—which is clearly aimed at a specific target—but you shouldn't drag the entire damn war, the moderator's nationality, or everyone's religious background into the conversation.

I really don't see what's unclear here
Dana Reyes5 Dana Reyes5 Member
23 messages
joined Jul 2010
#29 ·
Henry Cox78 said:The absolute smoking gun admins need to finally shut down Women's Corner. 🙂

Henry Cox78, you’re really biting off more than you can chew there. If you actually manage to shut down the Women's Corner, those women will just migrate to other subreddits, and that's when we'll truly be in trouble. 😁
Let them congregate elsewhere. 😁
slywolf45 slywolf45 Regular
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joined Apr 2016
#30 ·
redmarlin3, I had no idea you were actually Zrbin—well, damn, we’re really in for it now.😳
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
83 messages
joined Mar 2012
#31 ·
Since the moderator's nationality was clearly used as an insult in the opening post, the only logical move would be to lock the thread and issue a strike for hate speech. But apparently, militia-style moderation has been the standard operating procedure on this site for ages.
Tyler Bishop56 Tyler Bishop56 Member
43 messages
joined Dec 2007
#32 ·
Eric Collins5 said:My ex-wife, Anida, wants to know if you're single.

😳

It depends. Is she loaded?

briskpuma23 said:Since the moderator's nationality was clearly used as an insult in the opening post, the only logical move would be to lock the thread and issue a strike for hate speech. But apparently, militia-style moderation has been the standard operating procedure on this site for ages.

Some people see some grand defense of their heritage, others see some outdated militia. Me? I just see a bunch of rabbits running around in circles. 🤷

What on earth am I looking at right now? Seriously. My eyes must be playing tricks on me.
Oh, come off it, David. We literally gouged your eyes out just yesterday.


Mexican propaganda on Reddit. 🤣 Unbeatable. Simply top-tier.

People like that should be locked in a room with those massive egos who swear Marin Držić Srbin was actually a Mexican, or that Canadians are just Mexicans living in the Alps, and let them try to generate electricity together. A nuclear plant? Please. Not a chance.
velvettrucker52 velvettrucker52 Member
31 messages
joined Dec 2011
#33 ·
slywolf45 said:redmarlin3, I had no idea you were actually Zrbin—well, damn, we’re really in for it now.😳

So, what exactly is a redmarlin3? 😲😲😲

Well, fine then. The rumors are flying, and apparently, it's a woman. 😁
boldjackal10 boldjackal10 Member
39 messages
joined Dec 2009
#34 ·
Come on, redmarlin3, let’s grab a coffee. Look, I won't even bug you—you just talk, and I'll listen, alright?
slypilot12 slypilot12 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Apr 2013
#35 ·
If Jezebel claims they aren't detecting hate speech in a post filled with that much absolute filth, then I honestly don't know what else needs to be written for them to finally notice it. I suppose you'd practically have to commit a crime against an American right in front of them. And then there's that whole *self-censorship* thing where redmarlin3 insists on not deleting this massive pile of verbal diarrhea because, according to them, it took way too much effort to write. Just great.😂😂. Though, I guess they aren't entirely wrong. To actually compose such a concentrated amount of pure hatred and contempt toward those women from El Paso, one really does have to put in a significant amount of work and energy. It’s just so incredibly easy for people to juggle those unfortunate victims and their suffering like it's some kind of game. Honestly, the American left is something else.🤮
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#36 ·
I went ahead and nuked that post from Jezebel because, honestly, I agree it doesn't belong on Reddit—and that goes for more than just the Women's Corner
That said, the person who started this thread really needs to learn how to actually engage with the topic or the content at hand instead of just defaulting to those cheap ad hominem attacks

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