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Mirko is the GOAT, but...

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Participants Daniel Chavez14Gerald Smith76ironjackal40Zachary Alvarez8placidbison20Mark Wilson39Nicole Ramos2Robin Palmer3Casey Ramos31Jacob Young3Joseph Barnes53Sophia Thompson59Laura Lewis5briskjackal5Jeffrey Taylor49wanderingridge
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Jan 2003
#1 ·
...In my opinion, the biggest shock of this GP has definitely been Josh Barnett.
By the way, does anyone know what actually happened when he shouted "Oh shit!"?
Gerald Smith76 Gerald Smith76 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#2 ·
Heh, looks like he missed the mark...
And maybe his eye too, since he covered the right orbit...
ironjackal40 ironjackal40 Newcomer
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joined Nov 2007
#3 ·
Mike Tyson shoved a finger from his right hand straight into his eye...
Zachary Alvarez8 Zachary Alvarez8 Newcomer
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joined May 2006
#4 ·
It was a total cheap shot—even Barnett admitted it himself. Regardless, Mike Tyson just absolutely steamrolled him like he was nothing.
Gerald Smith76 Gerald Smith76 Active Member
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joined Nov 2015
#5 ·
Zachary Alvarez8 said:It was a finger to the eye—even Barnett admitted it. Regardless, Mike Tyson absolutely dismantled him like he was nothing.


So much for the idea that only certain martial arts specialists know how to land a lethal strike to the eye. 😬 😬
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#6 ·
Gerald Smith76 said:See? It just goes to show that eye gouges aren't some secret move reserved solely for martial arts experts. 😬 😬

Chuckles, but honestly, this just proves—and now Boxer is going to kill me for saying this—that all those fancy striking techniques, joint locks, and chokes don't mean a damn thing compared to these cheap, dirty little tricks you don't even have to train hard to pull off. I mean, after all, that's exactly why Barnett threw in the towel. 😛
placidbison20 placidbison20 Active Member
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joined Jun 2010
#7 ·
The real question is whether Mike Tyson did that on purpose.
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Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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joined Jan 2003
#8 ·
It didn't look intentional. Just imagine how much more effective those techniques become when they actually mean to do it.
Mark Wilson39 Mark Wilson39 Member
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joined Dec 2006
#9 ·
I really don't think Mike Tyson did that on purpose—these kinds of slips happen all the time when you're "grinding" on the floor or during various extractions—though, honestly, only Mike Tyson knows for sure.
Nicole Ramos2 Nicole Ramos2 Member
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joined Dec 2006
#10 ·
Barnett mentioned he took that finger injury during ground fighting—noted it happens in training too, though he admitted it was his own fault. He definitely didn't tap out because of it, either; he soaked up at least ten more strikes to that same spot. I honestly don't see the logic in your argument, Daniel Chavez14.😬
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Nicole Ramos2 said:Barnett mentioned he hurt his finger during ground fighting, noting it happens in training too and was basically his own fault. He definitely didn't tap out solely because of that, especially since he took at least ten hits to the exact same spot. I honestly don't see the logic in what you're saying, Daniel Chavez14.😬

Look, he didn't quit JUST because of the finger, but let's be real—it was the straw that broke the camel's back. He tapped out IMMEDIATELY after it happened.

Logic isn't my only weapon. I've got hands (just like Mike) and fingers. 😬
Nicole Ramos2 Nicole Ramos2 Member
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#12 ·
Pardon my French, but where on earth are you getting those conclusions? I watched the interview Joseph gave right after the fight, and he specifically mentioned getting hit in the eye *during* the bout—not after. I didn't catch the exact moment it happened, so I have to wonder where you're pulling this from. Did I somehow miss something in that interview? I need proof; I’m skeptical of your claims.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#13 ·
Nicole Ramos2 said:Pardon my French, but where on earth are you getting those conclusions? I watched the interview Joseph gave right after the fight, and he mentioned he got poked in the eye *during* the bout... I didn't catch the exact moment it happened, so I'm wondering where you're pulling this from? Did I miss something in that interview? I need proof; I'm pretty skeptical about what you're claiming here.

Look, all I did was ask what happened when he said "Oh shit," and everyone told me he’d been poked in the eye. If they're feeding me lies, I'm just passing them along to you. The bottom line is he threw in the towel right after saying "Oh shit," but as for what actually went down at that exact second—I honestly don't know. That's why I asked.
Nicole Ramos2 Nicole Ramos2 Member
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joined Dec 2006
#14 ·
What a load of lies...😬
Robin Palmer3 Robin Palmer3 Member
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joined Mar 2006
#15 ·
Daniel Chavez14 said:Haha—though I’m sure Robin Palmer3 is going to come for my head now—but this just proves that all those striking techniques, leverage, and choking maneuvers don't mean much when compared to those cheap, dirty little tricks you don't even have to train hard. I mean, Barnett surrendered because of that. 😛

I'm on the same page here... poking someone in the eye doesn't require much practice, and it's certainly an effective way to end a fight—if you can actually land the shot!👍
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
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#16 ·
Daniel Chavez14 said:Sure, that wasn't the *only* reason he threw in the towel, but let's be real—it was definitely the straw that broke the camel's back. I mean, he quit RIGHT AFTER that happened.

If he hadn't surrendered, he would've just been dragging out his own misery.
Jacob Young3 Jacob Young3 Member
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joined Oct 2006
#17 ·
Did you see how the "king" is just kicking back?

masaza

🤣
Mark Wilson39 Mark Wilson39 Member
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joined Dec 2006
#18 ·
You know, I wouldn't be complaining either!😍
Joseph Barnes53 Joseph Barnes53 Newcomer
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#19 ·
Kudos to Barnett. That report he dropped was absolutely brutal. Honestly, though, it didn't even surprise me that much.
Regarding that finger to the eye incident... Barnett stated—and if you actually watch the footage closely, you’ll see it—that he went to grab Mike by his right leg, and that's exactly when Mike swung his hand. Mike had pulled back slightly just as he threw the punch. If Barnett hadn't been positioned right there, Mike would've landed a massive blow. Luckily, that finger was right in the way 😬 .

It makes perfect sense why he was touching up there afterward. When someone jams a finger into your eye, you have no clue if you've actually sustained a serious injury or not. You instinctively start poking at your eye because of the pain, trying to protect it. Then, in that exact moment, some lunatic 😁 who had been pummeling him the whole time starts swinging at his head again. A guy just loses the will to keep fighting when he realizes he can't even defend himself properly 🙂 .

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Sophia Thompson59 Sophia Thompson59 Newcomer
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#20 ·
You guys are talking nonsense... he definitely didn't get poked in the eye. If he had, he would've been done for after four minutes. He broke down his match against Frazier perfectly fine without even a single tear in his eye. You know how it goes when you accidentally "get something" in your eye—like a finger or a pencil—you can't see straight for at least an hour because your eye won't stop watering. But Barnett? Zero symptoms of someone who just took a finger to the eyeball. I'm 100% sure about this.

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