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Surgeon's mistake leaves patient without a leg

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Participants Justin Foxbluebadger24Alex Collins26Amanda Stewart69Thomas Hill2stormylynx14coastalpanther62Megan ReedLisa Rodriguez84coastalbison6Carol Lopez23Jamie Rivera78Lawrence Robinson11Edward GreenMark Barrett2Henry Jackson35Kyle Nelson2Paul Phillips3Melissa Cruz2Bryan Jones82Casey Palmer5Brandon Castillo4brisknomad6Jose Miller3
Mark Barrett2 Mark Barrett2 Member
11 messages
joined Jul 2006
#21 ·
Alexander the Great said:I agree the system is totally rigged...

Alexander the Great...👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#22 ·
Henry Jackson35 said:Look, we regular folks, you know, us mere mortals, actually understand what we're talking about... to us, any kind of surgery feels terrifying and traumatic. And then you have these doctors feeding us this line about it being a "routine procedure," whatever that's supposed to mean. I'm sorry, but we've only ever heard that phrase from them. Every single person who’s used it says the exact same thing: "The doctor told me not to worry, said it was just a routine operation."


Well, I guess the doctor tells you that just to calm your nerves, right? And honestly, a routine thing—like, say, removing an appendix—is obviously nothing compared to brain tumor surgery. But now, you people are clearly taking that term and twisting it in cases like this. It's pretty obvious. I mean, how much work goes into just an appendectomy? I doubt the average person even realizes, which is probably why they feel so comfortable spitting venom like this.

It really is such a tragedy for a young guy. Truly. But the way people go after doctors sometimes is, well, it's a bit unhealthy, isn't it?
Kyle Nelson2 Kyle Nelson2 Regular
475 messages
joined Jun 2008
#23 ·
I mean, this whole thing feels more like a classic case of media sensationalism than an actual sign of a failing healthcare system... (not that our medical system is doing great, obviously)
stormylynx14 stormylynx14 Active Member
69 messages
joined Dec 2005
#24 ·
No, you claim this happens all over the place, yet it only seems to surface during pickle season. I wouldn't be surprised if my theories regarding physician burnout are correct.
Paul Phillips3 Paul Phillips3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2006
#25 ·
I don't even want to start listing my encounters and experiences with doctors. My mom was on disability leave for three years before finally transitioning to permanent disability, and I know exactly what we went through with them. Total crooks. Just hand over the cash and suddenly everything is fine—you get whatever treatment you want. Of course, all of that comes with "connections" that are more than useful. That’s why I’d much rather go to a private clinic and pay upfront than deal with the public system where you still have to grease palms just to get some basic humanity. Unfortunately, surgeries can't be done in private clinics yet, but once that changes, we are getting far away from these 👎

Doctors like this wouldn't last a day in their own profession.
I wonder how they'd act if this happened to their own kid, though that's hard to imagine when a top-tier specialist would actually give their own child the attention they deserve.
Melissa Cruz2 Melissa Cruz2 Active Member
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joined Nov 2007
#26 ·
Num_Lock said:The bottom line is we’re paying our health insurance premiums just to turn around and pay doctors $10 out of pocket for a basic checkup once a month plus $3.25 whatever copay for prescriptions... some people will say it’s not even that much money... but then what the hell are we actually paying those insurance premiums for??
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We aren't paying for healthcare, we're paying for nothing. That’s exactly why the whole system is a disaster—nobody is actually footing the bill. Copays are a joke, funding is non-existent... and nobody seems to care where the money is supposed to come from. Like, seriously, think about how much a heart surgery costs versus what the patient actually contributes out of pocket? It's practically zero. We need to hike up those copays and make sure everyone is actually invested in the system, not just a tiny fraction of the population. It's pathetic. Healthcare is expensive, yet nobody is actually paying for it!
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#27 ·
Kyle Nelson2 said:this whole thing feels more like a classic case of sensationalist journalism than an actual breakdown in our healthcare system... (not that things are looking great in medicine or anything, I guess)

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That’s exactly it.
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#28 ·
Paul Phillips3 said:I don't even want to start listing all my encounters and experiences with doctors. My mom has been on medical leave for three years and now she's moved over to disability, so I know exactly what I've gone through with her and WITH THEM. These crooks—you just hand over the cash and suddenly everything is fine; you get whatever treatment you want. Of course, along with the money comes the "connections," which are more than welcome. That’s why I'd much rather go to a private clinic and pay up instead of dealing with the public system where you still have to grease palms just to get some basic humanity. Unfortunately, surgeries can't be done in private clinics yet, but once that changes, we are getting away from these 👎

I personally feel like people like this should never practice medicine again.
I wonder how they would act if this happened to their own child, though that might be hard to say since a top-tier doctor who actually gives a damn would probably be looking after their kid anyway.


People like this are exactly why I often lose interest in studying medicine.

You're talking nonsense. Damn politics.

I don't see what's strange about a doctor's child being operated on by a better doctor? WHAT IS SO STRANGE ABOUT THAT?

I haven't heard anyone complaining about the fact that the late Pope John Paul II was cared for by at least six different doctors and a bunch of specialists... that's perfectly normal..

these standards held by the public are insulting to all doctors and students.
Paul Phillips3 Paul Phillips3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2006
#29 ·
Look, I lost two brothers because of incompetent doctors. So, I’m asking you—is this just some "routine error" that happens all the time?

I wouldn't wish what we went through on anyone.
Unfortunately, my experience with the medical field has been nothing but bad. It feels like everyone is just out for a paycheck.

I honestly couldn't care less about med students. As for the ones who actually intend to honor their oath? God bless them. As for the rest? They deserve whatever comes their way.👎
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#30 ·
Paul Phillips3 said:Look, I lost my brothers because of incompetent doctors—and I’m talking two brothers, not just one—so I’m asking you, is this some kind of routine mistake that just happens all the time?

Aha. Right. They just murdered your brothers. Yeah, sure. That’s basically the only thing doctors do. I mean, I guess your brothers were perfectly fine until the doctors decided to kill them, right?

I honestly don't care about med students. My sympathy goes to the ones who actually intend to uphold their oath, but as for the rest of them? I wish them nothing but the worst.👎


You're acting like it's an absolute rule that every doctor is just out for a paycheck. We already agreed we aren't going to insult each other on this subforum. Lawrence Robinson11, consider this your first warning. Get it together.
Well, if they were just in it for the money, they wouldn't even bother studying, I suppose. The sheer amount of misery you endure for such low pay later on just wouldn't be worth it. But, I don't know why I'm even bothering to explain this. I won't...
Paul Phillips3 Paul Phillips3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2006
#31 ·
Oh, sure. They just killed your brothers. That’s all doctors do. Your brothers were perfectly fine until those doctors decided to end them.

I assume you're just another imaginary med student.

Yeah, they were basically infants when they were killed. And no, they didn't have health issues before that. If you think this is some big joke, I feel incredibly sorry for you.
Honestly, I think living as someone as heartless as you are is the worst punishment you could ever face.

You act like the rule is that doctors just want money. You're sick.
Well, if they only wanted cash, they wouldn't bother with medical school. The grind isn't worth the tiny paycheck unless there's more to it. But why am I even explaining this? I won't bother.

Look, honey, the reality in this country is that if you pay up, you get better service. I'm not saying it's always true, but in most cases, it is. Believe what you want. Call me sick all you like; the truth remains the truth.
Hats off to the actual doctors out there.👍
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#32 ·
Paul Phillips3 said:I'm guessing you're just another imaginary med student

Exactly! And I mean, please, what on earth could possibly lead you to think I’m making this up? Oh, wait, I know. It's because I'm actually studying medicine, right? Ha.
Yeah, back then they were still just babies when they were killed, and no, they didn't have any health issues, and if you find this so incredibly funny, well, I am just so, so sorry for you.
I honestly think the biggest punishment you'll face in this life is just having to live as the person you are, given how completely heartless you've become.

Look, I don't find this funny at all. I have my own share of tragedies, I really do. But that doesn't exactly motivate me to go around broadcasting my trauma and spitting on everything in existence, does it?

You're just a bitter woman.👎
Paul Phillips3 Paul Phillips3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2006
#33 ·
I hate to disappoint you, but it’s not because you’re studying medicine that I think you're conceited—it’s your attitude.
Look, I don't have an issue with medical professionals in general. There's a massive difference between having a problem with doctors and having a problem with doctors who are incompetent. Don't twist my words. 🙄

I'm not bitter; I'm just pissed off when I see people being this lazy with their jobs. That's all. Nobody is forcing you to be there. If you aren't up to the task, find a different career. Trust me, they're out there.
Bryan Jones82 Bryan Jones82 Member
29 messages
joined Dec 2015
#34 ·
I feel like most medical professionals have a bit of an ego 😁
Sure, everyone makes mistakes, but you should actually be held accountable for them—which just doesn't seem to happen much around here.
Paul Phillips3 Paul Phillips3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Jun 2006
#35 ·
Anyone can screw up. But you have to own the consequences, which is something we rarely see happening around here.

Exactly. They mess something up on a patient, and suddenly nobody is responsible. It’s always been fascinating to me. You get these medical review boards where the doctors investigating the error are buddies with the ones who actually caused it—of course they're going to cover for each other. There’s just no such thing as justice in this system.
Casey Palmer5 Casey Palmer5 Regular
470 messages
joined Jan 2016
#36 ·
Consider this a warning: this thread is spiraling into another heated argument, and if things don't calm down soon, I'm going to have to lock it...
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#37 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:Consider this a warning. This thread is devolving into bickering again, and if everyone doesn't calm down, I'm going to have to lock it.


Honestly, that’s probably for the best. Just lock it up already.

Besides, this really belongs over in the MEDIA subforum anyway...
Carol Lopez23 Carol Lopez23 Member
30 messages
joined Apr 2005
#38 ·
In any given circumstance, I maintain my faith that this matter will be thoroughly investigated until everything is properly rectified and justice is served.
The undeniable reality we face is that our healthcare system is currently in a state of total collapse, and frankly, the public attitude toward it is becoming increasingly cynical as well.

P.S. Even a major institution like Johns Hopkins isn't necessarily at the absolute pinnacle of global medical education, so let's be realistic... while the quality of instruction remains perfectly adequate, the underlying systemic failures are where the true crisis lies.
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
175 messages
joined Jul 2006
#39 ·
Too true... honestly, I don't get why they pinned the "Why aren't more young people staying?" thread as the top topic when we see basically the same thing pop up every single week...
this should have just been added to that existing thread anyway, since it's the exact same issue: the American healthcare system—is it a total disaster or what?!??
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
33 messages
joined Jun 2006
#40 ·
Bat Kol said:p.s. honestly, the medical school in a city like Chicago isn't even breaking the top few hundred globally, so... I mean, the teaching itself is fine, but the whole system is just broken. That's the real issue here.


Of course, it’s not going to be on par with an Ivy League school where they have massive endowments, endless resources, and insane competition, right?

But saying the school is subpar—and by extension, implying our doctors are incompetent—is just nonsense... total nonsense.

Unless, I suppose, someone decides to fail out and retake the same year three times or something like that. But there aren't really many of those geniuses floating around. 😉

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