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Wonder Boys (2000)

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Participants lonemarlin40Susan Wright12Sophia WilliamsAmy Mendoza25Terry Fisher2Richard Hernandez13Anthony Kim18Jason Gonzalez7Lisa Rodriguez84feralcyclist83ruggedfox28Nicole Davis7
lonemarlin40 lonemarlin40 MemberOP
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joined Nov 2006
#1 ·
"Wonder Boys"

I’m honestly so stoked they started selling DVDs with those newspaper inserts again. Sometimes I grab one because I know it’s a winner, sometimes I think it might be good, and other times I just pick one on a whim. I picked this one totally at random. And man, was I blown away.

I can’t tell if it’s just because I watched it solo, in total peace, where I could actually sink into it properly. On paper, the subject matter isn't even that exciting—the whole premise feels kind of dull—but the movie is just packed with these tiny little details that make it great. It’s way deeper than it looks at first glance.

Look, I’m not usually a huge fan of Michael Douglas, but he wasn't annoying in this one like he can be. Then you’ve got Robert Downey Jr., who kills it, and Tobey Maguire... honestly, him playing this weird student who lies his way through life while writing killer stories fits him way better than Spider-Man ever did. 😁

If you just watch it on the surface, you're gonna find it boring. If you watch it with a bunch of people hanging out, you'll probably find it boring too.

But the movie isn't boring. It’s really good. You just have to look beneath the surface.
Susan Wright12 Susan Wright12 Member
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joined May 2003
#2 ·
Honestly, I think this flick is a total masterpiece. It’s got that heavy campus vibe, but it feels way more like something straight out of a Saul Bellow novel, you know? And man, Michael Douglas is absolutely killing it.
I mean, the whole damn cast is just top-tier.
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active Member
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joined Aug 2003
#3 ·
I caught this one in the theater—it might feel a bit flat on a smaller screen.
It really marks the start of a major comeback for Robert Downey Jr., and his performance is just stellar.

Did anyone else catch how the movie slowly reveals that James Leer (the character played by Tobey Maguire) is essentially a parasite—just a total psychological vampire who drains everyone else of their ideas, assets, and cash...

Such a great college-era film.
If I recall correctly, I actually sat through this in the cinema more than twice...

The way it pokes fun at that whole "writing a novel in a movie and actually succeeding" trope is spot on—that massive book with its thousand numbered pages, the professor showing up with all those failures, the girl he thought he was "capturing" turning cold once she saw the literal horse teeth in his manuscript, Leer heading off to bed with Robert Downey Jr., and him still drunk, basically sabotaging his own career over the phone...

And then the ending... that moment where Maguire bows on stage—that felt like a robbery, didn't it?

The family comes out on top, even if they end up splitting up—which is honestly a rarity for an American film... though a worse ending would have been a total disaster.
Amy Mendoza25 Amy Mendoza25 Member
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joined Nov 2015
#4 ·
Well, now you've gone and made me want to watch it again.
Terry Fisher2 Terry Fisher2 Active Member
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joined Apr 2005
#5 ·
Q: "I....am....a....................writer!"

James Leer:"HIHIHIHIHIHIHHI(echo)"

-my absolute favorite moment😁 😁 😁
Richard Hernandez13 Richard Hernandez13 Regular
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joined May 2004
#6 ·
Sophia Williams said:Has anyone else caught how the movie slowly peels back the layers on James Leer (the guy played by Tobey Maguire)? He’s such a total parasite, honestly—just this classic "psychological vampire" who sucks everything dry from everyone around him, whether it's their best ideas, their assets, or just straight-up cash...

I wouldn't quite go that far, though.
It feels more like the guy just has a massive soft spot for fiction, so he ended up polishing his resume a little too much to fit the part.
Or maybe it's actually the other way around: he lies so naturally whenever the opportunity arises that being a writer is basically the only career path left for him. 😁

By the way, I find Michael Douglas to be a pretty irritating type of person myself, but in this specific film, I really can't picture anyone else playing that sleazy professor role so perfectly.

...
Man, if only my college days had been even half as glamorous as that. 🙄
Sophia Williams Sophia Williams Active Member
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joined Aug 2003
#7 ·
Richard Hernandez13 said:Klinjo just loves fiction way too much—so he decided to tweak his resume a bit...
Or maybe it’s the other way around: he lies so naturally that being a writer is really his only viable career path. 😁

The second option is the only one that actually makes sense.
(It's all artificial to begin with)
Is art—or maybe just show business—the ultimate refuge for every dreamer and social misfit?
😁
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active Member
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joined Apr 2006
#8 ·
Another one starring Michael Douglas. Honestly? It’s kind of a dud. Just a movie about nothing—like watching some professor go through life's most mediocre adventures.
Totally unrealistic and just plain boring.
It's the kind of flick you forget five minutes after the credits roll. You really don't need this one.
Total waste of celluloid and even more of a waste of your time.
Skip it!
Avoid it at all costs!
Jason Gonzalez7 Jason Gonzalez7 Member
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#9 ·
I mean, the movie isn't really about much—it’s more about that sudden "nothingness" that hits you after a period of success. It’s about those dry spells, people missing each other, and how ambition and selfishness struggle against some deep-seated humanity... things like that...

I actually thought it was pretty good. Not a masterpiece, but a solid watch.

😁
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active Member
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#10 ·
It all feels a bit shallow, doesn't it? Like there’s just no real depth to how they showed it...
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
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joined Jul 2006
#11 ·
Is that your expert opinion right there?
The movie is incredible; you just have to actually *get* it...🙏
The cast is stellar, and the film has this layer of depth to it—you could watch it 10 or 15 times and still find something new. Every viewing hits differently.
But hey, if that's what you say...🙂

What a waste of a thread. If anyone else had started this, people might actually be participating.
Jason Gonzalez7 Jason Gonzalez7 Member
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joined Nov 2007
#12 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:It’s a shame about this thread. If someone else had started it, maybe people would actually participate more...

🤣

Come on, we can definitely have a discussion...
I'm genuinely curious how you interpreted the movie...
Lisa Rodriguez84 Lisa Rodriguez84 Active Member
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joined Jul 2006
#13 ·
Nah, that’s not even the point. Anthony Kim18 keeps starting threads about movies that are decades old. He’s done this dozens of times now, and honestly, it just kills the vibe—people don't feel like engaging when they see the same recycled topics over and over.
Personally, I think the movie is great and I love catching it whenever it's on TV. It’s one of those classics that never really gets old...😁
Jason Gonzalez7 Jason Gonzalez7 Member
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#14 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:It’s one of those movies you just don't get tired of...😁

That's exactly why I asked; you've only put two posts up and haven't said much yet.
I don't really remember the movie itself since it's been ages since I watched it...
Anthony Kim18 Anthony Kim18 Active Member
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joined Apr 2006
#15 ·
Bradley Barnes90 said:So, you calling that an expert opinion?
This movie is absolute gold, you just have to wrap your head around it first...🙏
The cast is absolutely killer. This movie has so much depth that you could watch it ten or fifteen times and still find something new. Isn't it great when a film hits like that?
Well, if you say so...🙂

Such a shame about this thread. If someone else had started it, maybe people would actually be talking?

So, what's there to figure out? 😕
Talk about depth, man. Seriously?

As for rewatching? No thanks. Once was more than enough for me.
feralcyclist83 feralcyclist83 Newcomer
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joined Aug 2007
#16 ·
Brenda Carter96 said:Look, the movie is essentially about nothing. Or rather, it's about that "nothingness" that hits you once your streak of success dries up—those lean years, the way people drift apart, and how raw ambition and selfishness constantly clash with whatever humanity you have left buried deep inside... things like that.

Personally, I thought it was pretty good. It’s not a masterpiece, but it's solid.

😁

It's actually more accurate to say it's about nothing. 🙂 I'm with you. I actually liked it quite a bit. It definitely didn't deserve this kind of thread or all this treatment... plus, they even misspelled the name. 😢 I think Dylan's work is fantastic, but Robert Downey Jr... hmm 😍
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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joined Aug 2018
#17 ·
The movie isn't exactly a masterpiece, but there’s this little something about it that just hits me right in the feels... I don't even know how to put it into words.
It’s basically watching people who think they're misunderstood by the rest of the world.
You can criticize it all you want, but it's definitely not a bad film.
Nicole Davis7 Nicole Davis7 Member
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joined Aug 2007
#18 ·
A total snooze fest. Both the book and the movie were just plain boring.

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