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Lisa Ortiz17 Lisa Ortiz17 Active Member
50 messages
joined Sep 2003
#61 ·
rustyridge said:I would love to do that too, but it just doesn't make financial sense for me. Plus, despite all that fruit, I’d be hungry again in no time.
Personally, my go-to is sugar-free muesli, maybe a slice of bread with honey, and a cup of skim milk. I can eat a ton in the morning—but then I never touch anything after 6 PM.

A bag of oranges is about 5 to $2.75. A pound of bananas is roughly 6 bucks. You can find crates of oranges at Trader Joe's for a great price, along with other fruit. I can never finish a whole pineapple before it goes bad—I buy one on Saturday and it's gone by Monday. Don't tell me it's expensive. Besides, you've got apples, pears... whatever you prefer.
I stick to bananas because they actually keep me full. I remember writing somewhere about how brutal things were for me for about a month—I was literally clenching my stomach just to stop the growling from being heard 😁. It’s good to let the system reset with a fruit day. Obviously, going purely fruit is crazy—unless you pair it with milk (I use soy) and lemonades, which isn't pricey either. Use honey, not those artificial sweeteners. And I always keep hazelnuts, walnuts, almonds, or dried fruit on me. Oh, and peanuts—in the shell.
I give my body enough time to process what I've eaten—depending on whether it's proteins or carbs, say 3 or 4 hours—and then I eat again. 🙂
dustycanyon6 dustycanyon6 Active Member
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joined Dec 2005
#62 ·
Casey Palmer5 said:As for all that spraying business, I don't know... I'm really not sure. Isn't the whole point of those plants being that they're genetically tougher against pests? That’s why you wouldn't need to go overboard with the chemicals during the growing season. Now, look, I'm definitely no expert when it comes to agronomy, but it just seems to make sense to me... It would be great if someone who actually knows their stuff could weigh in on this...

It’s just one of those "unforeseeable" variables that the anti-GMO crowd loves to harp on about... You know the type. Those Monsanto "experts" only ever look at what’s right in front of them. Their studies are way too short-term, lacking any real depth, and let's be honest, they're pretty biased too. Theoretically, everything should work exactly the way you’re thinking—which is exactly how Monsanto tries to sell us on it—but man, you really have to read between the lines... Hey... It’s funny how things work out... you can find similar arguments floating around in old archives from The New York Times way back in '99. For the first few years, it actually seems like they’re using fewer chemicals compared to traditional farming. But then, as time goes on, the demand for those sprays just keeps climbing... and eventually, you realize that GMO food ends up being some of the most heavily treated stuff out there. And here’s the kicker: some of these genetic tweaks actually turn the plants themselves into pesticides. When you look at it that way, it almost feels safer to just spray the outside, since at least then the toxins stay on the surface... instead of being baked right into the plant. Theory is one thing, but reality is a whole different beast. I wish someone with actual expertise would weigh in on this, but I doubt we’ll find anyone here who really knows the drill...

Pallas said:Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, everyone... but hey, silence gives consent, right?

Look, just being real here... Jost and Radman aren't even in the same league. Not even close. I wouldn't go weighing their opinions against each other like they're equals... I mean, don't get me wrong, Dr. Radman can definitely be wrong sometimes, but still...

I brought up Jost specifically because he’s already gone head-to-head with Radman... and that guy in The Los Angeles Times wrote about it a few pages after the interview with Radman. You’re totally missing the point here. Is it even possible that the editors at the Times couldn't find a single competent person to speak out against GMOs?! A friend mentioned a similar setup in that school magazine, Nature, where they ran Radman's piece... he looks all polished in the photo, wearing designer stuff like a Lacoste shirt... meanwhile, you don't see any of the anti-GMO crowd getting that kind of spotlight. It all feels incredibly fishy. It looks like a blatant attempt to manufacture public support for GMOs. This isn't journalism, it's just straight-up marketing... honestly, it's embarrassing. It's like if you were watching an election and the news only interviewed one political party or one presidential candidate, and then expected you to walk away with a fair conclusion based on that... it just doesn't add up... 😵 You really can't, can you?...
rustyridge rustyridge Member
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joined Mar 2008
#63 ·
Lisa Ortiz17 said:Oranges are like 5 bucks for a $2.75 bag, and bananas are around 6. You can find crates of oranges super cheap at Trader Joe's, plus all kinds of other fruit. I can never finish a whole pineapple before it goes bad, so I usually just grab it on a Saturday and it's gone in two days. Don't even try telling me fruit is expensive. Besides, there's always apples or pears... whatever you're into.
I eat bananas because they actually keep me full. I mentioned somewhere before that there was this one month where things got really rough for me. I used to clench my stomach just so it wouldn't make any noise 😁 ... It's honestly good to give your body a break with a fruit day. Obviously, eating nothing but fruit would be crazy, but I mix it with milk (I drink soy) and lemonades, which isn't pricey at all. I use honey instead of artificial sweeteners. And I always keep some hazelnuts, walnuts, almonds, or dried fruit on me. Oh, and peanuts, in the shell too.
I just let my body digest whatever I ate (depending on if it was proteins or carbs, so like, wait 3 or 4 hours before eating again). 🙂

My stomach used to cramp up too, but if I had kept going like that, I seriously would've passed out... Finding cheap fruit isn't the issue; I can find bananas and apples—my favorites—for $1.75 even though I don't live in Washington, D.C. I've eaten pineapple maybe once in my life, so I have no clue what it costs. You mentioned eating nuts, which in my opinion doesn't count as "regular" fruit, and since they're so high in calories, I bet you could definitely make it to lunch. Plus, it's not like my job allows me to snack all the time, and I'd feel super awkward eating when everyone else is busy.

I totally agree with what someone said about eating fruit between meals or even on an empty stomach. That's actually what a doctor told my mom because she deals with MS.
Lisa Ortiz17 Lisa Ortiz17 Active Member
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joined Sep 2003
#64 ·
rustyridge said:I completely agree with what was mentioned about eating fruit between meals or preferably on an empty stomach. That's actually what a doctor advised my mother—she’s dealing with multiple sclerosis.

Exactly—that's why food eaten earlier takes longer to digest, and the fruit just sits there "waiting its turn"😁 , fermenting...
Amy Fox97 Amy Fox97 Active MemberOP
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joined Nov 2007
#65 ·
monique said:I agree that your friend should spend a few hundred bucks on her weight loss journey, but not on some "magic pill" that replaces meals and melts fat away. She should invest in a decent tracksuit and a solid pair of running shoes instead.
If she's serious about eating healthy, the smartest move would be following a Mediterranean diet, playing around with different food combos, and picking up jogging or another sport. Her approach actually sounds much more sensible than your starvation plan. 🙄

Her biggest hurdle is mental. She’s stubborn and just doesn't believe in positive outcomes.

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