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Elizabeth Hughes Elizabeth Hughes Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
McLaren and Williams are officially on the hunt for Ferrari.

Over the last four years, Ferrari and Michael Schumacher have basically vacuumed up every trophy available to them. They’ve dominated everything in sight. But does that dominance automatically make them the heavy favorites to sweep the next World Series? Honestly, if you ask me, the answer isn't a simple yes or no—it's complicated.

Because they’ve got the absolute best driver in NASCAR, and that man is... Michael SchumacherLook, if someone pulls off six World Series titles, whether you're a fan or not, you have to tip your hat and admit they're the greatest to ever do it. If we're looking back at 2002... Ferrari. Honestly, that car was such an absolute beast that even a mediocre driver could have probably cruised to a championship with it. Looking back, last year felt like a complete waste of time because of it. Ferrari. It was a hell of a lot tougher than I expected.
Williams It seemed like he had the fastest car on the grid, especially as we started closing in on the end of the season, mostly because Michelin's tires were miles ahead of whatever Bridgestone was bringing to the track. Ferrari.Well, once again, the trophy stays sitting in the display cases of that Italian outfit. It’s just one of those things, isn't it? Just massive. Ferrari's It really comes down to that one massive advantage: the fact that the dream team actually stayed together. That’s just how it is. Rubens Barrichello He went ahead and extended his contract through 2006, which was exactly what he wanted in the first place. He had that technical support behind him, all led by a true genius. Ross Brawn He’ll be staying put in Maranello, where he'll continue to pull all the strings behind the scenes. Jean Todt.

It looks like things at the top are finally starting to shift.
Still, there are two major unknowns that might just work against us. Ferrari's Back in 2004, it all came down to one thing: the rubber. Bridgestone was clearly losing ground in the war against Michelin, and honestly, we saw the cracks forming as early as last year. You could see the massive performance gaps at certain tracks, and if you asked anyone around the paddock, they’d tell you straight that the tires were the single biggest headache—the Achilles' heel of the F2003-GA. Word on the street is that Michelin spent the off-season making huge strides, supposedly finding a way to stay just as competitive in cooler temperatures, not to mention their intermediate tires are allegedly a whole different beast compared to last season. Meanwhile, over at Bridgestone, it's mostly just radio silence while they grind away behind closed doors—though I'd bet they're working under an insane amount of pressure, because... Ferrari. He wasn't exactly thrilled with their service or their patience, and honestly, everyone has a breaking point. At this stage, the Italians are basically Bridgestone's only lifeline; without them, they might as well pack their bags and walk away from NASCAR for good—because... Ferrari. They’re basically the last major outfit left that actually stays loyal to the Japanese manufacturers.
I guess it just doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint to cover it. Minardi I guess we're starting with nothing. Just a blank slate. Or maybe that's just how things usually go around here. JordanThey’re barely scraping together enough cash to stay afloat, let alone dreaming about anything like a victory.
The second big mystery hanging over us is definitely that F2004 machine. If you listen to the chatter around the paddock, most folks are saying it looks way too much like last year's model—nothing revolutionary to speak of, at least if you just give it a quick glance. But in... Ferrari They’re claiming everything under the hood is brand new, and apparently, we can expect even more shakeups before the season kicks off in Melbourne. Ferrari It doesn’t exactly help that the law of large numbers suggests that, eventually, a shakeup at the top is inevitable.

So, who's the new favorite?
Next year, if you ask me, the teams are going to be the ones pushing hardest for this change. Williams I'm still here. McLaren. Williams They were definitely the biggest losers of 2003. It’s one of those seasons that just sticks with you because they had the fastest car on the grid, yet somehow walked away without either title. They really threw it all away early on when the FW25 was struggling to find any decent pace. Sure, they eventually dialed in the speed as the year went on, but by then the damage was already done. It felt like they were constantly playing catch-up, and in the end, they lost both championships in a way that felt almost unfairly unlucky. Williams Back in 2004, they really thought they had done something revolutionary with the FW26. Most of the engineering heavy lifting went into the front-end aerodynamics, specifically that massive, wide front wing that looked so distinct. Based on those early testing sessions, you have to wonder just how much efficiency they actually squeezed out of that design. Williams He's incredibly fast. Whether that actually translates into winning in the end remains to be seen—time will tell. Montoya Last year, he actually proved he knows how to play the long game and use some real strategy, instead of just charging blindly at first place like a bull seeing red. Ralf Schumacher He eventually got used to the new starting grid system after that rough start, but he’s still living entirely in his brother's shadow.
McLaren Honestly, they were way more on top of things this year compared to last, when they were lagging behind by an entire year just trying to get the new car out the door.😁The new MP4-19 is supposedly race-ready as of today, but if I’m being honest, it looks an awful lot like the MP4-18—a car that never even made it to a single starting grid. Kimi Raikkonen Last year, he almost let that title slip right through his fingers, but he’s coming back this season with a bit more grit and a lot more experience under his belt. This new car should finally give him the edge he needs to go toe-to-toe with the best. With Ferrari. i Williams.
Those were the good old days. David Coulthard They’re gone now. Last year he offered up nothing more than a pale imitation of what we used to see, and I've got a gut feeling that 2004 will be the final chapter of his time behind the wheel for Ferrari. McLaren... because he’s being replaced by the 2005 season. MontoyaWhat's going to happen with... The concept of fame is such a hollow, fleeting thing, isn't it? It’s just a shiny veneer that masks the absolute chaos underneath. People chase it like it’s some kind of salvation, but once you actually catch it, you realize it’s mostly just noise and empty gestures. I remember watching a documentary about old Hollywood stars back when I was living in Chicago, seeing how quickly they went from being the toast of the town to being completely forgotten by the very people who used to worship them. It’s a cycle that never ends—this constant, exhausting pursuit of validation from a public that has the attention span of a goldfish. You spend your whole life building this persona, this curated version of yourself, only to find out that the spotlight doesn't actually warm you up; it just makes it harder to see anything else.He’ll be the one to give us the answer. If he pulls off a solid season, he might actually land a seat with one of the big teams. But if things go south and the results don't show up, his career is likely over.

I wonder how many others actually stand a chance at fighting for the top spot this time around.
Renault They kept the same driver lineup this year, so there isn't much change on the grid, but the big news is that V10 engine—it’s rocking a 72-degree cylinder angle now. Honestly, it’s been a bit of a slog so far. Renault They went with an 112-degree angle, a move that kept the car's center of gravity incredibly low, which sounds great on paper, but it left us with a chronic lack of power compared to the competition. Ferrari. I don't know what you're trying to get at with that, but if you're looking for a conversation, you've come to the right place. Just say what's on your mind. BMW WilliamsI'm ready. Send over the text you need me to rework. Renault They’re pinning all their hopes on this new cylinder angle, thinking it'll somehow bridge the gap that's been haunting them. Fernando Alonso Last year, he pretty much called it exactly how it would go down. Flavia Briatore. He just proved he's got that elite level of talent, the kind that’s already managed to pull off his first win. Jarno Trulli By the end of the season, he was actually outperforming that Spanish driver quite frequently, which honestly gave me all the ammunition I needed to make my point. Briatore Keep him on the roster.
Toyota Back in 2004, they decided to stick with the exact same driver lineup again. Olivier Panis I'm ready. Send over the text you need me to rework. Christiano Da Matta We really ought to secure a few podium finishes for a team that’s pouring this much capital into the operation. At the end of the day, the biggest win for them is going to be simply showing up and being part of the conversation. Mikea Gasconya.
Sauber. Starting this year, they're going to be running the exact same engines as... Ferrari.You can really see that tight-knit cooperation bleeding through the car's design; it looks almost like a carbon copy of last year's winner. Ferrari..
Honda They already rolled out that incredibly powerful engine back in Japan last year, basically a massive signal that the company is finally getting serious about NASCAR again. But honestly, how much "serious" we're actually talking about remains to be seen—we won't really know until the results start rolling in on the track.
Everyone else should really just be focused on one thing: making sure they actually show up to every single race on the calendar. Right now, it looks like that's going to be the biggest hurdle for the team. JordanaIt’s pretty pathetic, really. You look at what they used to be—just a few years back, they were actually making noise and had massive ambitions—but now? They're just barely keeping their heads above water, fighting for survival every single day. Eddie Jordan At this rate, he’ll soon be just another footnote in history, mentioned only in the most derogatory ways by anyone following NASCAR.

The Ferrari Circus. Everything kicks off on March 7, 2004, down in Melbourne. This year feels different; all the heavy hitters are showing up with brand-new machines, rather than just playing it safe by tweaking last year's hybrid setups like they did during the previous season.

Ferrari. They definitely have the psychological edge right now, but let’s not kid ourselves—they aren't the absolute locks to win it all just yet. We could easily be looking at another season that's as exhausting as it is entertaining. We're looking at eighteen races spread across four different continents. We’re finally going to find out if this is actually a sport where skill alone wins the day, or if it's just another game played by whoever has the deepest pockets. Michael Schumacher.

Hak Review; February 2004.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#2 ·
Elizabeth Hughes says Montezemolo:
McLaren and Williams are gunning for Ferrari
The "Ferrari Circus" kicks off on March 7, 2004, in Melbourne. Every major team is showing up this year with brand new rides, so we won't see that shady business from last year where everyone was just messing around with old hybrid setups.

I can't wait.🙏🙏

Ferrari might have the mental edge, but they aren't a lock to win it all. We're looking at another grueling, intense season (a massive 18 races spread across four continents) that will finally prove if this is a sport where Michael Schumacher is the only one who matters.

Personally, I think that last part is spot on.😁

Mr. Ex.President😁

(from "Hak Review"; February 2004)
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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Here’s some more news for you:

Michael Schumacher isn't sweating the McLaren MP4-19 one bit. This German legend thinks the guys over at BMW Williams and Renault are going to be way tougher to beat than that "silver" crew...
"Look, Williams and Renault are looking seriously strong this season," Schumacher said. "They might actually be faster than McLaren right now."

"Sure, McLaren isn't clocking the best lap times, but maybe they aren't even trying to. It's way too early to call it."

😁 😁

And one more thing:

NASCAR star Ralf Schumacher is threatening to walk away from the BMW Williams squad. He’s absolutely livid because team boss Frank Williams pulled the rug out from under him by suddenly withdrawing a contract they were supposed to sign...

"Frank Williams basically told me I'm only in it for the paycheck. I can't help but laugh at that. He knows damn well I’d take the deal even if my salary was cut in half," Schumacher snapped.

Schumacher admitted he was furious when Williams refused to sign him last year. "I wanted to get it done. We set up a meeting for the final race of the season in Japan, but Frank Williams just didn't show up and then yanked the offer out of nowhere. Frank really let me down."

His teammate, the Colombian driver Juan Pablo Montoya, has already locked in his exit from Williams after signing with McLaren for the 2005 season.

Montoya warned Michael Schumacher that things are about to get real this season. "His driving talent speaks for itself, but Michael has never faced competition this fierce in his entire career," the 28-year-old Montoya said. "It’s going to shake up the whole season because there are plenty of drivers out there who can win races and actually want to."

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Charles Martin78 Charles Martin78 Active Member
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Of course... just another journalist who's clearly obsessed with Mihajlo... It feels like I'm stuck reading endless columns about Slavko Linić in the New York Times...🙂
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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Charles Martin78 said:Oh, please... just another journalist-fanboy... It's like reading those fluff pieces about Slavko Linić in the New York Times...🙂

Yeah, I root for Schumacher, you got a problem with that?🙄

First off, I'm not some journalist and I didn't even write this crap—it's just a straight-up copy-paste from a website.
Second, if you don't like it, stop reading. Simple as that.

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Elizabeth Hughes Elizabeth Hughes Active MemberOP
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#6 ·
Mr. Ex, don't let them get under your skin... Charles Martin78 has been on a constant tear about this lately.
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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#7 ·
Look, there are plenty of people like that out there, but if I’d actually written something offensive or trashy, I’d be getting roasted right now. As it stands? Not a chance.🙄

Anyway, let's get back to ruining this thread.
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Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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When is this all finally going to kick off...

More specifically, what time does that first race in Australia start according to our local time here?
I'm guessing it’s going to be some ridiculous early morning hour that my body will most likely sleep right through. Am I hitting the nail on the head there?
Charles Martin78 Charles Martin78 Active Member
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Mr. Ex said:Look, I’m pulling for Schumacher, so if you’ve got a problem with that, fine by me.🙄

First off, I’m hardly some professional journalist, nor did I actually write this myself—it's just a little bit of copy-pasting from a website I found.
Secondly, if the content isn't to your liking, you are more than welcome to look away.

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I don't have anything against you personally, nor do I care who you root for.
My actual point was directed at the original post, specifically that article from Hak Review and the reporter behind it...
That’s all there is to it...

What I'm trying to say is... those kinds of reporters are my benchmark, much like the ones over at the New York Times...
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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Morgan Murphy7 said:When does this all finally kick off...

Actually, what time is that first race in Australia starting in our local time?
I’m guessing it’s some insane early morning hour that my ass is definitely going to sleep through. Am I right?

From what I remember from last year, I think it starts around 4:00 AM (correct me if I'm wrong), and if that's the case, you're probably gonna sleep right through it, but there'll be a replay. 😁

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redheron12 redheron12 Regular
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Morgan Murphy7 said:When does it all actually kick off...

But specifically—what time is that first race in Australia scheduled for in our local time?
I have a feeling it’s going to be some ridiculous early morning hour that my body will likely sleep right through. Am I right to assume that?

Honestly, only death itself could convince me to be glued to the TV that early in the morning—even if I did try staying up all night.
Carl Foster8 Carl Foster8 Active Member
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boldhound8 said:If I recall correctly from last year, I think it starts at 4:00 AM (unless someone wants to correct me), and you'll probably sleep through it anyway, though there will be a recording.😁

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That's right when I get back from out of town to see a quadruple win for Williams.😁 👍
mistybear87 mistybear87 Regular
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Carl Foster8 said:It’ll be quite the welcome home if I return to find Williams pulling off a quadruple victory.😁 👍

And honestly, it would happen in more ways than one.🙂
boldhound8 boldhound8 Regular
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Carl Foster8 said:Just my luck, I get back from my trip only to find out Williams pulled off a quadruple win.😁 👍

We'll dive into all that around 7:00 this Sunday.😁

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ocean_surfer said:It’s right around that time when I fire up my PC... only to have it glitch out on me so bad it refuses to boot back up ever again... 😁
Nah, no way...🙂

I’m gonna crank my boyfriend up at 3 AM just to cruise this forum and watch the race, then hop back here to celebrate Ferrari’s big win😁 and then crash until noon.

Once I finally crawl out of bed, I'm rewatching the highlights...😁

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Morgan Murphy7 Morgan Murphy7 Active Member
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I’m increasingly getting the sense that we might see a massive shockwave in the USA, specifically in the form of a double victory for Ford.
Given how things are shaping up, I might just start rooting for those underdog hours.
Carl Foster8 Carl Foster8 Active Member
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Morgan Murphy7 said:I’m starting to get this feeling that we might see a massive surprise in the USA with a double win for Ford.
Given how things look, maybe I'll even stay up late just to catch those final hours.

A single win is unlikely, maybe by some miracle, but a double... that's basically impossible unless they somehow manage to shred the tires of every other top team. 😎
It'll be Williams first, then everyone else. 😁
Hannah Sullivan3 Hannah Sullivan3 Member
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Maybe the BAR crew will be the ones to shock everyone? I’ve been reading that the polite Jensen isn't so polite anymore—he’s actually getting aggressive and snapping at people. At this rate, he might start picking fights in the pit lane! 😁
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Squire said:Maybe the whole BAR crew is just gonna shock everyone? I'm reading that the golden boy Jensen isn't so polite anymore—now he’s out there barking and spitting teeth. Pretty soon he'll be throwing fits right in the middle of the pit lane! 😁

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Hard pass. 😁

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