Lilo & Stitch

errr.....perfect movie? yeah, right. I love animation, and I’m all for Disney's stuff, but Lilo & Stitch is honestly kind of a mess. They tried way too hard to mash up that classic Disney formula—you know, the lonely kid looking for family, sticking together, blah blah blah—with this wacky vibe full of goofy jokes and parodies. Not even getting into that, the actual pacing toward the end is just super rushed and dumbed down. I mean, the characters are cute, sure. And there are a few scenes that are pure genius... like when 🙂Stitch attacks San Francisco
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I'm also pretty annoyed by how much they overused CGI... you can really see it during that final plane showdown—everything looked way too "perfectly" animated.

Whoa, whoa, whoa... let’s dial back the "perfect animated masterpiece" labels just a little bit, shall we?

First off, I haven't actually sat down to watch Lilo & Stitch yet—I'm planning to catch up on my watchlist over the next few weeks—but based on everything I've heard and seen about it, it seems like just another one of those "typical" Disney movies.

I mean, sure, it’ll probably be fine to watch if you just want some mindless entertainment.

If you're honestly that obsessed with it, 👍 ...well, I guess I'm glad there are still people out there who have that much faith in Disney. (Personally, I lost hope a long time ago). But I'm pretty sure this thing will be completely forgotten in a year.

It honestly might have been a better film if they hadn't shoved those typical American values right down our throats.

Wait, what? I thought Lilo & Stitch was absolutely perfect too! Honestly, I still get all choked up thinking about those scenes where he was just struggling... and I remember sitting there crying with my whole family while watching those old duck cartoons... even though I’m way past that age now...
I actually have a plushie of Stitch dressed up in an Elvis Presley outfit with his mouth wide open sitting right on my bed. 🙂 😁

Steven Ruiz said:What? I thought Lilo & Stitch was a perfect movie too. I even cried when things got rough, sitting there watching those duck cartoons with my family... and I'm way past that stage of life.

Oh God...🙄 🙄 🙄

I actually just watched it yesterday... and honestly, it was terrible.

I mean, look, it's probably fine for kids up to about 13, but for me, it just left a bad taste in my mouth.

It feels like Disney just goes around stealing ideas left and right.

I still have no clue how this even made the Oscar nominee list.

slyrider16, if you're wondering why Hayao Miyazaki is so pissed about that "Spirited Away" Oscar nomination, just go watch Lilo & Stitch and Treasure Planet... then everything will make sense to you.

why is Hayao Miyazaki such a jerk? hmmm... maybe I'd actually get him IF: Disney is hiding the fact that SA isn't even their movie, they're trying so hard not to mention Hayao Miyazaki, and the money side of the deal means Miyazaki won't see a single cent... wait a sec, we're talking about Hollywood here... so this is totally possible. 😁

So, I just finished watching almost all of the animated films that were nominated—and please, pay close attention to how I word this. 😁Regarding the Oscars, aside from that one "wild card" nominee I really don't expect much from, I feel like the whole thing boils down to this: it's basically "AI" versus "Human Artistry."

slyrider16: I guess I have to ask... why does Hayao Miyazaki always have to be such a pain?

And why on earth is Hayao Miyazaki so worked up about it? Look, you know as well as I do that the Oscars are basically an "American awards show for Americans." They're designed to honor American films. If they want to recognize international cinema, they have their own specific categories for that, right?

It doesn't really work that way with animation. I guess everything that manages to snag a nomination is just somehow tied back to what the big American studios are pushing.

So, here we go again... Disney bought up the distribution rights for "SA" in the States, which basically gave them the leverage to nominate it for awards—otherwise, I guess they wouldn't even have the standing to try. It’s pretty much a rigged setup. If "SA" ends up grabbing a piece of the pie, that money just flows straight back to Disney. And let's be real, they had almost nothing to do with the actual film, and they barely even bothered to give it a decent theatrical run here. It’s honestly ridiculous when you look at the numbers. In Japan, the DVD was out before the movie even hit theaters in America, and it actually pulled in more than Titanic did.

I mean, wouldn't you be absolutely livid if you poured all your time, your hard-earned money, your creative vision, and your actual soul into a project, only to watch a bunch of people who had nothing to do with it swoop in at the end and grab all the credit? It’s infuriating, honestly. I guess it just makes you wonder why anyone would even bother anymore.

I guess there’s actually another reason why Hayao Miyazaki might be pissed off. Disney went ahead and nominated two of their own films, yet they still don't stand a chance at winning. It honestly makes me wonder if Disney even has any confidence in their own work, considering they have to lean on other studios just to stay in the running.

slyrider16: hmmm... I mean, I could eventually see him understanding it IF: Disney is actively covering up the fact that Studio Ghibli isn't actually their studio, they're trying their best to avoid mentioning Hayao Miyazaki, and the financial side of the deal is set up so that Miyazaki won't see a single cent... wait a second, we're talking about Hollywood here... so honestly, that possibility seems pretty realistic.

It’s like Disney isn't even trying to hide the fact that they didn't actually make this movie. Instead, they just act all proud of the distribution side of things, as if being the middleman is somehow their greatest achievement. It's honestly kind of ridiculous.

I guess I should probably clarify if that movie was actually shown in the States or not, because honestly, it’s such an incredible film.

OFFTOPIC:
I just remembered... there aren't exactly a ton of flight scenes, but I guess the few they actually included are totally worth it.

That scene where Haku flies alongside the building, shown from a first-person perspective... man, that's something else.👍

Flying?? ugh, you seriously want me to regret skipping out that day? 😉

Anyway, the one thing I don't get about this whole Oscar and Hayao Miyazaki thing is this: based on what you're saying, it sounds like they basically stole the movie from him. Like he didn't even want it adapted for Americans... so who actually signed the contract? The Japanese producers?

I'll just reply to Nausicaä here so I don't keep spamming this thread.

This animation is honestly fantastic. It’s clearly crafted with enough depth to keep adults just as engaged as kids. For me, it hits that same sweet spot as Futurama and The Simpsons, even if those two are pretty much impossible to top

hiddensailor> I feel like it's on the level of Futurama and The Simpsons, even if nobody can actually top those two.

Ugh... let's not get carried away here.

Look, Lilo & Stitch is definitely one of the few decent Disney movies we've seen in recent years, but saying it's up there with The Simpsons or—God forbid—Futurama? It's not even close.

Besides, those are completely different things. We're comparing apples to oranges. 😉

Melissa Moore32 said:Ugh... let's not get carried away here.

Lilo & Stitch is definitely one of the few decent Disney movies we've had lately, but comparing it to The Simpsons or—heaven forbid—Futurama? Not even close.

Besides, those two things aren't even in the same ballpark, right? 😉 [/B]

I'm right there with you... I watched it ages ago and honestly, I don't see how anyone could even compare them. Not the humor, not the characters, not the animation, or just the overall movie QUALITY... I haven't even bothered watching the sequel to Stitch's adventure for two main reasons:
1. It's a sequel, so it's bound to be way worse.
2. It's only 60 minutes long, which pretty much proves my first point. (😁 )

It’s quite charming, really... I adore them. They feel so familiar to me, almost like old friends./...hehehehhe🙏 🙏 🙏 🙏

Lilo & Stitch is great. I ended up crying at the end, honestly. I’m also a huge fan of Disney movies, especially Sleeping Beauty.

Rachel Bailey86 said:Lilo & Stitch is such a masterpiece. That ending absolutely wrecked me. I’ve always had a soft spot for Disney classics, especially Sleeping Beauty.

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