Switching primary care doctors: any tips?

I've been lurking on this health forum for a while now. You find some decent advice occasionally, but I’m getting tired of how every second suggestion is just "go see your primary care physician." We all know that if you're sick, you need a doctor. We don't need a forum for that. The problem is, everyone knows that means endless patience—waiting months for even the smallest thing—and a lot of money. People come here because they want to avoid that or speed things up by asking others for help. It's like someone asking why their car won't start and you telling them to go to a mechanic.
I get that diagnosing anything without an exam is tough, but if someone says their stomach hurts, they’re looking for someone who dealt with the same thing and found a solution. Getting told "see your GP" or "get a million tests that you'll be waiting for until you die" is just irritating.

In my opinion, running to a doctor for every little thing and demanding complex testing has made the whole system counterproductive. Nowadays, doctors can barely deal with a bruise without ordering a CT scan. How did people manage 10 or 20 years ago before CT scans were everywhere? Does every minor issue really require a hundred expensive tests? Nobody seems to realize that this overloads the system, driving up costs, breaking equipment, burning out doctors, and ultimately making sure those who actually need care can't even get it. When you have a system where people sue doctors because they couldn't save a 90-year-old grandmother, and a doctor gets fired for simply saying "someone has to die," the healthcare system becomes a cancer on society. This isn't just us. From what I hear, it's even worse in the West, though they charge premium prices, so only those willing to pay get the expensive tests for trivial issues. Here, people immediately label that as inhumane and start forming all sorts of activist groups.
It might look inhumane at first glance, but you have to look at the bigger picture and how these decisions impact society as a whole.

We need leaders who actually know what they're doing and have the guts to slam their fist on the table and say, "this is how it's going to be." That kind of decisiveness worked well back when Tomasi was in charge of the police (even if he faces pushback, the man knows his business and provides clear, reasoned arguments). You can't please everyone, no matter how hard you try, and weak management is exactly what led us to this crisis. Just look at Russia. While Yelcinj was in power, we were nearly pushed into a nuclear war. Once Putin took control with a firm hand, it became one of the world's great powers again. Granted, you don't need to be as iron-fisted as Stalin.

I totally hear you on the fact that way too many people hit up the doctor for absolutely nothing. Most of the time, it’s just folks who have a bit too much time on their hands—you know, those retirees who just want to get out of the house and make a little trip out of it by wandering through clinic hallways. No shade intended, they're just looking for something to do! But look, there's another side to this. If your stomach is acting up, it might feel exactly like mine does, but the root cause could be worlds apart. Just because I tell you about some remedy that worked wonders for me doesn't mean it'll do the trick for you. At the end of the day, I’m all for seeing a physician when things actually feel wrong, provided it’s a legitimate health issue and not just someone being bored 😁

Jack Lopez63 said:I've been lurking on this health forum for a while now. You find some decent advice occasionally, but I’m getting tired of how every second suggestion is just "go see your primary care physician." We all know that if you're sick, you need a doctor. We don't need a forum for that. The problem is, everyone knows that means endless patience—waiting months for even the smallest thing—and a lot of money. People come here because they want to avoid that or speed things up by asking others for help. It's like someone asking why their car won't start and you telling them to go to a mechanic.
I get that diagnosing anything without an exam is tough, but if someone says their stomach hurts, they’re looking for someone who dealt with the same thing and found a solution. Getting told "see your GP" or "get a million tests that you'll be waiting for until you die" is just irritating.

In my opinion, running to a doctor for every little thing and demanding complex testing has made the whole system counterproductive. Nowadays, doctors can barely deal with a bruise without ordering a CT scan. How did people manage 10 or 20 years ago before CT scans were everywhere? Does every minor issue really require a hundred expensive tests? Nobody seems to realize that this overloads the system, driving up costs, breaking equipment, burning out doctors, and ultimately making sure those who actually need care can't even get it. When you have a system where people sue doctors because they couldn't save a 90-year-old grandmother, and a doctor gets fired for simply saying "someone has to die," the healthcare system becomes a cancer on society. This isn't just us. From what I hear, it's even worse in the West, though they charge premium prices, so only those willing to pay get the expensive tests for trivial issues. Here, people immediately label that as inhumane and start forming all sorts of activist groups.
It might look inhumane at first glance, but you have to look at the bigger picture and how these decisions impact society as a whole.

We need leaders who actually know what they're doing and have the guts to slam their fist on the table and say, "this is how it's going to be." That kind of decisiveness worked well back when Tomasi was in charge of the police (even if he faces pushback, the man knows his business and provides clear, reasoned arguments). You can't please everyone, no matter how hard you try, and weak management is exactly what led us to this crisis. Just look at Russia. While Yelcinj was in power, we were nearly pushed into a nuclear war. Once Putin took control with a firm hand, it became one of the world's great powers again. Granted, you don't need to be as iron-fisted as Stalin.

Honestly, telling someone to "go see a doctor" is probably the single most sensible piece of advice you can give on a health forum. I get why you find that suggestion irritating, but personally, I find it just as frustrating when someone starts a thread with nothing but "my stomach hurts" or a random lab result, expecting us to play diagnostic physician. I noticed you brought up that classic abdominal pain issue too. There are a million different reasons why a stomach might ache—anything from a mild case of indigestion to something genuinely life-threatening. Because of that, even if two people walk in with the exact same symptom, they aren't necessarily going to end up with the same diagnosis. And even if they do share a diagnosis, that doesn't mean the treatment will be identical for both. The purpose of a forum like this is to point people toward potential causes, help explain what a specific test result might mean, or swap personal experiences. That’s it. The very first stop for anyone feeling unwell has to be their primary care physician. From the way you wrote your post, it seems like you actually understand that. So, isn't it a bit contradictory of you to complain about the advice when you clearly agree with the principle?

When it comes to people seeking medical attention for every little thing, you really have to tread carefully. You see these two extremes: people who obsess over every minor symptom to an exhausting degree, and then those who completely ignore their health until it's too late. You mentioned that people go running for expensive diagnostic tests over every tiny thing, but I don't think you realize that what seems like a "minor" issue could actually be the first sign of something serious. In my view, a responsible doctor’s job is to investigate even the smallest detail a patient brings up. If it’s clearly nothing, they won't waste resources on tests; they'll just tell you to head home. The much larger issue here is how primary care in the US is becoming more about filling out paperwork than actual medicine, essentially offloading all the heavy lifting onto specialists and hospital systems. We can certainly agree that the healthcare system is being bogged down by trivialities, but the fault doesn't lie with the patients—it lies with the way the entire system is structured.

Look, you have to realize that most people posting here are just laypeople. I can give you a general idea of what kind of condition we might be talking about, but don't go expecting anyone to hand you a formal diagnosis on a silver platter.

For instance, a girl recently started a thread because she noticed her stools were black. What am I supposed to say? If I tell her it was just something I ate, and she takes my word for it, she could end up bleeding out because she actually had an ulcer or some internal bleeding in her upper GI tract.

And let’s be clear: I’m not advocating for running to the doctor for every little thing. I deal with chronic health issues myself, and honestly, I could be spending half my life in a waiting room at the Mayo Clinic, but I don't.

Unfortunately, everyone’s got a point here. We see it all the time—a GP dismisses some pain as nothing, only for it to turn out to be something serious. On the flip side, you have people getting run through expensive, invasive tests for a minor infection. It’s impossible to find a middle ground, so everyone just plays it safe to avoid being sued. People rush to the doctor for every little thing because they get spooked by sensationalist news stories and TV medical dramas; meanwhile, doctors order high-end scans immediately just to dodge malpractice suits. The end result? Skyrocketing healthcare costs, endless waiting lists, an overwhelmed system, and a whole lot of frustrated patients and providers. The government is too paralyzed to set clear guidelines on when a doctor should intervene, where their liability ends, and what level of service a patient can actually expect within a reasonable timeframe. This chaos is self-inflicted. It’s like giving a highway patrol officer total discretion to set speed limits on the fly and hand out tickets whenever they feel like it—it’s pure anarchy.

Not much to say. Fighting windmills and fighting fate are both lost causes from the start.

Jack Lopez63, I think you're generalizing a bit too much here—where did you get the idea that doctors immediately order expensive tests for every little thing? That’s just not accurate. Most of the time, they aren't going to send you off for an expensive panel just because you have a sore throat or need a basic urine culture; more often than not, they just prescribe antibiotics on the spot.

To build on what melloworca6 mentioned—as someone living with a chronic condition myself, I could easily spend every single day cycling through doctor visits and costly diagnostic tests, but I don't, nor do my physicians suggest it. In fact, I don't know anyone who actually does that.
I totally get why seeing waiting rooms packed with seniors can be frustrating, but let's be realistic: the average retiree doesn't have the constitution of a teenager. They're usually managing things like high blood sugar or blood pressure. 😉

Besides, trying to self-diagnose via internet forums and following medical advice without ever actually stepping foot in a doctor's office is irresponsible at best—and honestly, pretty reckless.

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Jack Lopez63 said:Unfortunately, everyone’s got a point here. We see it all the time—a GP dismisses some pain as nothing, only for it to turn out to be something serious. On the flip side, you have people getting run through expensive, invasive tests for a minor infection. It’s impossible to find a middle ground, so everyone just plays it safe to avoid being sued. People rush to the doctor for every little thing because they get spooked by sensationalist news stories and TV medical dramas; meanwhile, doctors order high-end scans immediately just to dodge malpractice suits. The end result? Skyrocketing healthcare costs, endless waiting lists, an overwhelmed system, and a whole lot of frustrated patients and providers. The government is too paralyzed to set clear guidelines on when a doctor should intervene, where their liability ends, and what level of service a patient can actually expect within a reasonable timeframe. This chaos is self-inflicted. It’s like giving a highway patrol officer total discretion to set speed limits on the fly and hand out tickets whenever they feel like it—it’s pure anarchy.

I have to respectfully disagree with the idea that GPs are too quick to refer people to specialists, or that specialists are too eager to order pricey diagnostics. I learned this the hard way after visiting my family doctor several times regarding intense, recurring headaches... I mean, sure, everyone gets a headache now and then. 🙄
I tried taking painkillers, but they were becoming increasingly ineffective. Once the pills stopped working altogether, I ended up at the ER—three times in a single week—and it wasn't until that third visit that they finally sent me straight for a CT scan, which revealed a brain tumor.

I was just reading that Japan supposedly has the best healthcare system in the world.
It’s no secret that Japan, along with the USA, is one of the most cutthroat capitalist nations on the planet. People there practically face an existential crisis if they lose their jobs because they know there's no safety net. Meanwhile, over here, the government acts like a disorganized mess—everyone is just leaning on welfare.
So, either the people conducting these studies have no clue what they're talking about, or a system where costs and procedures are transparently managed actually works better in practice.
One of the requirements for joining the European Union is having a functional healthcare system. That should be our goal too, but our leadership lacks both the intelligence and the drive to fix it. Instead, they hire foreign consultants to figure out how to overhaul the system, and when those experts point out that we have THREE times more hospitals than necessary for normal operations, the administration lacks the backbone to act, so they just pay for another study to say the exact same thing.