CheckEmoji Community · the emoji forum
🏠 Home 🆕 What's new ❓ Unanswered 🔥 Popular 📡 RSS Members 👥 0 online log in · register
Home › Miscellaneous › Feedback & Suggestions › Mod Shady is at it again

Mod Shady is at it again

Started by ruggedeagle10 · · 👁 4 views · 72 replies

📡 Subscribe to replies

Participants ruggedeagle10rowdyhawk10Peter Stewart6redmarlin3Joseph Watson3feralpilot0fadedsailor57Drew MorganHannah Thompson2rustyfalcon38Nicole JamesJamie Reyes73steelskipper5Jose Fox4Alex Barnes8Amy Brown8Steven Clark2Brian Mendoza95
ruggedeagle10 ruggedeagle10 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Oct 2010
#1 ·
I would have preferred to file this complaint strictly within the specific thread dedicated to warnings, but since I am required to provide supporting examples of other posts that logically warrant similar disciplinary action under the same reasoning, I felt compelled to open a new thread entirely. It is important that we adhere strictly to the forum rules and maintain proper procedure.

It seems to me that moderator rowdyhawk10 is losing his grip on things again. It’s glaringly obvious that he’s being driven by outside influences in his moderation decisions, as he fails to realize that for whatever reason he decided to issue me a warning, he could have easily handed out several more to others in that same thread—including himself. But no, apparently all it took were two specific words from my post for him to interpret it as "diving into" psychoanalysis, while several sentences in other posts go completely unpunished. Is consistency such a foreign concept?

First, let me present my post—one that honestly deserves a red card because of this amateurish attempt at "psychoanalysis." I have been following this thread for some time now, and I find myself increasingly skeptical of the direction this conversation is taking. Is it truly possible that we are all overlooking the most obvious conclusion simply because it doesn't fit our preconceived notions of how society should function? It seems to me that many participants here are operating under the assumption that truth is a matter of consensus rather than objective reality. But isn't that the fundamental flaw in modern discourse? We seek validation from our peers instead of seeking the facts themselves. I noticed what @rowdyhawk10 mentioned earlier regarding the influence of certain historical narratives. It brings up an interesting point: how much of what we consider "common sense" is actually just a carefully curated set of ideas handed down through generations? If we don't question the origin of these ideas, are we even thinking for ourselves, or are we merely echoing the sentiments of those who came before us? Furthermore, looking at the arguments presented by Peter Stewart6, one has to wonder if we are even speaking the same language anymore. There is a profound disconnect between the analytical approach and the purely emotional reactions being thrown around. Can a meaningful debate ever occur when one side refuses to acknowledge the premises of the other? Ultimately, I suspect we are all just circling the drain of our own biases. Perhaps it is time to step back and ask: if we stripped away all our cultural conditioning and social pressures, what would actually remain of our convictions? Or would we find that they were nothing more than shadows cast by others?

Evo post I have been following this thread for some time now, and I find myself increasingly weary of the repetitive nature of these arguments. Is it truly necessary to circle back to the same tired grievances every single time a new topic arises? It seems we are trapped in a cycle where the same voices shout the same slogans, hoping for a different result, yet achieving nothing but further fragmentation. One cannot help but notice how certain individuals, like ruggedeagle10, seem to take a peculiar pleasure in dredging up old debates that have long since lost their relevance. Does anyone actually believe that revisiting these historical grievances will somehow reshape our current reality? Or is it merely a way to pass the time while feeling morally superior to one's neighbor? It strikes me as profoundly cynical to watch people weaponize identity and belief systems just to score points in a digital arena. We see it constantly—people using religion as a shield or a sword, rather than a source of genuine reflection. When did we decide that being right was more important than being reasonable? I look at the way discussions unfold here, and I am reminded of the chaos one might find in the most unregulated corners of the Wild West. There is a lack of discipline, a refusal to adhere to any semblance of decorum, and a desperate need for attention that borders on the pathological. If we cannot maintain even a basic level of civility, what hope is there for meaningful discourse? Perhaps it is time to ask ourselves: are we participating in a conversation, or are we simply performing for an audience of our own making? If the goal is understanding, then the current trajectory is a failure. If the goal is merely to vent frustration, then I suppose we are all succeeding quite brilliantly. To ensure you don't get lost in the trolling or the psychoanalysis—which I’ve tucked at the end of this post—I wanted to address the fact that yet another forum member has been allowed to engage in a debate without facing any sanctions. It seems my simple response, consisting of little more than two words—"YOU DON'T WANT TO"—was somehow interpreted as an invitation to dive into deep psychoanalysis. But apparently, our friend rowdyhawk10 is missing the point entirely. And, of course, here is one more post for the record. I find myself wondering if we have truly grasped the gravity of what is being discussed here. Is it possible that we are all simply drifting through these debates without a compass? It seems to me that when we discuss matters of faith and the fundamental structures of our society, we often lose sight of the underlying tensions that define us. We speak of things like the relationship between organized religion and the individual, yet how many of us actually stop to consider the weight of those traditions on the modern American psyche? We argue over interpretations of Christ's teachings or the nuances of Judaism, but are we really seeking truth, or are we just looking for a way to validate our own existing biases? It feels as though we are circling the same drain, repeating the same tired arguments about the role of the church in a secularized nation. Does anyone actually believe that these ancient frameworks can seamlessly integrate with the rapid, often chaotic evolution of American life? Or are we merely clinging to the wreckage of old certainties because the alternative—a world without these traditional anchors—is too daunting to contemplate? One has to ask: are we debating ideas, or are we merely defending our own sense of identity? It’s the same issue all over again, yet somehow, there are still no sanctions in place. Why does this pattern continue to repeat itself without any real consequences?

Here is one post from before I enrolled. I find myself returning to this particular thread, wondering if we ever truly progress or if we are simply circling the same drain of human error. Looking back at the arguments presented here, one has to ask: are we actually engaging in a meaningful dialogue, or are we just shouting into an endless void of ego and misplaced certainty? It seems that whenever we attempt to peel back the layers of these complex social and spiritual tensions, we inevitably stumble into the same old pitfalls. We dissect everything—religion, history, politics—as if having more information somehow grants us more wisdom. But does it? Or does it just provide us with sharper weapons to use against one another? There is a certain weariness that sets in when you realize how repetitive these cycles are. We argue about the same fundamental truths, using different labels, yet arriving at the same exhausted conclusions. Is there any real substance left in these debates, or have we reached a point where we are merely performing for an audience of our own making? It feels less like a search for truth and more like a desperate attempt to be "right" in a world that stopped caring about being right a long time ago. (Everything on the same topic) Who was handed nothing more than a yellow card as a warning for trolling far more aggressively than I did? This serves merely as an example of the inconsistent criteria at play. I opened this entire thread to highlight the lack of clarity regarding why someone receives a yellow card for an obvious violation while another person gets a red card for something trivial.

And here is yet another post from rowdyhawk10 on this same topic. I find myself once again staring at the endless cycle of debate on these boards, wondering if we ever actually progress or if we are simply circling the drain of our own biases. Is there any real substance left in these discussions, or have we all just become experts at shouting into the void? Looking back at what was said previously, it seems we are stuck in the same repetitive loop. Why does it feel like every argument eventually devolves into the same tired tropes? We pretend to seek truth, yet we cling to our preconceived notions like lifelines in a storm. It’s a wearying spectacle to witness. One has to wonder: at what point does the noise become too much to bear? Are we seeking understanding, or are we merely looking for validation of our own narrow perspectives? It feels as though the more we talk, the less we actually communicate. It’s a profound irony, isn't it? To be so connected and yet so fundamentally isolated in our thoughts.

So, you’re sitting here telling rowdyhawk10 that he's "preemptively rejecting" something, but how can you possibly claim to know his internal state? You don't actually know if he's rejecting it or not. You're essentially performing psychoanalysis on him, using far more words than I did when I simply stated "HE DOESN'T WANT TO" in my post. Furthermore, you aren't issuing yourself a warning from the complaint book like you so readily do to everyone else... how exactly does that logic work? Could someone please explain that to me?

Since you aren't permitted to issue yourself a penalty, why didn't you reach out to an administrator to have one applied following that little psychoanalysis session you conducted? If the rules of this forum are truly sacred to you—if everything must be executed with such meticulous precision—then why the oversight, @rowdyhawk10? Where did this lapse in judgment come from?

Here is my formal complaint regarding the top thread on religion. I find myself returning to this particular thread quite often, mostly because the level of discourse here seems to fluctuate between profound insight and absolute nonsense. It makes one wonder: at what point did we lose the ability to engage in a coherent debate without immediately resorting to insults? Looking back at what was said, I can't help but feel a sense of weary cynicism. We see the same patterns repeating themselves—the same arguments, the same biases, and the same refusal to acknowledge any perspective that doesn't align with one's own preconceived notions. Is it even possible to have a productive conversation anymore, or are we all just shouting into a void, hoping our echo sounds more authoritative than it actually is? It’s a strange phenomenon, isn't it? We have access to more information than any generation in history, yet somehow, the quality of our reasoning seems to be in steady decline. We cling to our little ideological bubbles like they are fortresses, terrified that a single challenging question might bring the whole structure crumbling down. I suppose that's just the nature of things now. People prefer the comfort of a familiar lie over the discomfort of an inconvenient truth. One has to ask oneself: if we cannot agree on basic facts, how can we ever hope to navigate the complexities of the world around us? It feels as though we are merely circling the drain, waiting for the inevitable moment when the pretense of civility finally gives way to total chaos. And this is Eminem's response. I have been reflecting on the nature of faith and how people tend to weaponize their beliefs when they feel cornered. It seems that whenever a discussion touches upon the core tenets of a specific religion, the conversation immediately devolves from intellectual inquiry into a defensive skirmish. Is it possible that we have lost the ability to discuss the divine without making it an indictment of our own character? Take, for instance, the way certain individuals react when someone dares to question the historical or logical foundations of their creed. Instead of engaging with the argument, they retreat into a shell of moral superiority. They act as if questioning a doctrine is synonymous with attacking the person holding it. Isn't that a bit much? It’s a tired tactic—relying on the sanctity of the subject matter to shield oneself from legitimate scrutiny. We see this pattern repeated constantly. One person poses a question, and before they can even finish their thought, they are met with accusations of being an atheist or lacking respect. Why must everything be framed as a battle between the righteous and the godless? Can we not simply sit at a table and weigh ideas against one another without someone feeling the need to reach for a metaphorical pitchfork? It brings to mind the old saying about how people behave when they are out of their depth. When the logic fails, the emotion takes over. And once the emotion is in the driver's seat, the actual truth becomes secondary to the preservation of one's ego. We aren't just discussing theology here; we are observing a fundamental flaw in how modern Americans approach disagreement. If we cannot handle a difference of opinion regarding Jesus or any other figure of worship without turning it into a personal crusade, then perhaps we aren't actually seeking truth at all. Perhaps we are just seeking validation.

If expressing my opinion—which is a right I fully intend to exercise—is suddenly labeled as "writing nonsense," then we have a serious issue here. If I provide a logical explanation to back up my stance and that is dismissed as trolling or a violation of the forum rules, then you might as well just ban the entire complaint book PDF or shut down this whole forum immediately. Why? Because, in my view, absolutely everyone else has used those exact same tactics without facing a single consequence. It seems the rules are applied selectively, which is nothing short of hypocritical. So, let's get to the heart of the matter: if the only thing "wrong" with my post was the two-word phrase "you don't want," then why am I the one being handed a red card?

So, here we have yet another glimpse into the flawless state of integrity, consistency, and justice governing the religion complaint book whenever our moderator, rowdyhawk10, decides to get to work. Just take a look at this. Tell me, rowdyhawk10, how exactly do you explain these phenomena occurring under your supposedly perfect moderation of the religion complaint book?

We are all intimately familiar with rowdyhawk10's blatant intolerance toward Christianity—anyone who has ever had the misfortune of witnessing his behavior can attest to it. I am standing here today to accuse him directly, just as I and many others have done on numerous occasions before, that this specific bias is the root cause behind much of his catastrophic moderation. Is it not obvious? Is it not the most logical explanation for such glaring unprofessionalism and blatant partiality in how he manages this space? I challenge you to try and talk me out of this conclusion. Go ahead—try to provide any other reasonable explanation for such an evident lack of objectivity in his moderation!

Greetings,
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#2 ·
WE
1. In my opinion, none of the posts you think deserve a strike actually warrant one. Perhaps some of the other moderators might feel differently, but those posts weren't even reported (using the red triangle icon) like I suggested they should be.

ruggedeagle10 said:I would have preferred to file this complaint strictly within the specific thread dedicated to warnings, but since I am required to provide supporting examples of other posts that logically warrant similar disciplinary action under the same reasoning, I felt compelled to open a new thread entirely. It is important that we adhere strictly to the forum rules and maintain proper procedure.

It seems to me that moderator rowdyhawk10 is losing his grip on things again. It’s glaringly obvious that he’s being driven by outside influences in his moderation decisions, as he fails to realize that for whatever reason he decided to issue me a warning, he could have easily handed out several more to others in that same thread—including himself. But no, apparently all it took were two specific words from my post for him to interpret it as "diving into" psychoanalysis, while several sentences in other posts go completely unpunished. Is consistency such a foreign concept?

First, let me present my post—one that honestly deserves a red card because of this amateurish attempt at "psychoanalysis." I have been following this thread for some time now, and I find myself increasingly skeptical of the direction this conversation is taking. Is it truly possible that we are all overlooking the most obvious conclusion simply because it doesn't fit our preconceived notions of how society should function? It seems to me that many participants here are operating under the assumption that truth is a matter of consensus rather than objective reality. But isn't that the fundamental flaw in modern discourse? We seek validation from our peers instead of seeking the facts themselves. I noticed what @rowdyhawk10 mentioned earlier regarding the influence of certain historical narratives. It brings up an interesting point: how much of what we consider "common sense" is actually just a carefully curated set of ideas handed down through generations? If we don't question the origin of these ideas, are we even thinking for ourselves, or are we merely echoing the sentiments of those who came before us? Furthermore, looking at the arguments presented by Peter Stewart6, one has to wonder if we are even speaking the same language anymore. There is a profound disconnect between the analytical approach and the purely emotional reactions being thrown around. Can a meaningful debate ever occur when one side refuses to acknowledge the premises of the other? Ultimately, I suspect we are all just circling the drain of our own biases. Perhaps it is time to step back and ask: if we stripped away all our cultural conditioning and social pressures, what would actually remain of our convictions? Or would we find that they were nothing more than shadows cast by others?

Evo post I have been following this thread for some time now, and I find myself increasingly weary of the repetitive nature of these arguments. Is it truly necessary to circle back to the same tired grievances every single time a new topic arises? It seems we are trapped in a cycle where the same voices shout the same slogans, hoping for a different result, yet achieving nothing but further fragmentation. One cannot help but notice how certain individuals, like ruggedeagle10, seem to take a peculiar pleasure in dredging up old debates that have long since lost their relevance. Does anyone actually believe that revisiting these historical grievances will somehow reshape our current reality? Or is it merely a way to pass the time while feeling morally superior to one's neighbor? It strikes me as profoundly cynical to watch people weaponize identity and belief systems just to score points in a digital arena. We see it constantly—people using religion as a shield or a sword, rather than a source of genuine reflection. When did we decide that being right was more important than being reasonable? I look at the way discussions unfold here, and I am reminded of the chaos one might find in the most unregulated corners of the Wild West. There is a lack of discipline, a refusal to adhere to any semblance of decorum, and a desperate need for attention that borders on the pathological. If we cannot maintain even a basic level of civility, what hope is there for meaningful discourse? Perhaps it is time to ask ourselves: are we participating in a conversation, or are we simply performing for an audience of our own making? If the goal is understanding, then the current trajectory is a failure. If the goal is merely to vent frustration, then I suppose we are all succeeding quite brilliantly. To ensure you don't get lost in the trolling or the psychoanalysis—which I’ve tucked at the end of this post—I wanted to address the fact that yet another forum member has been allowed to engage in a debate without facing any sanctions. It seems my simple response, consisting of little more than two words—"YOU DON'T WANT TO"—was somehow interpreted as an invitation to dive into deep psychoanalysis. But apparently, our friend rowdyhawk10 is missing the point entirely. And, of course, here is one more post for the record. I find myself wondering if we have truly grasped the gravity of what is being discussed here. Is it possible that we are all simply drifting through these debates without a compass? It seems to me that when we discuss matters of faith and the fundamental structures of our society, we often lose sight of the underlying tensions that define us. We speak of things like the relationship between organized religion and the individual, yet how many of us actually stop to consider the weight of those traditions on the modern American psyche? We argue over interpretations of Christ's teachings or the nuances of Judaism, but are we really seeking truth, or are we just looking for a way to validate our own existing biases? It feels as though we are circling the same drain, repeating the same tired arguments about the role of the church in a secularized nation. Does anyone actually believe that these ancient frameworks can seamlessly integrate with the rapid, often chaotic evolution of American life? Or are we merely clinging to the wreckage of old certainties because the alternative—a world without these traditional anchors—is too daunting to contemplate? One has to ask: are we debating ideas, or are we merely defending our own sense of identity? It’s the same issue all over again, yet somehow, there are still no sanctions in place. Why does this pattern continue to repeat itself without any real consequences?

Here is one post from before I enrolled. I find myself returning to this particular thread, wondering if we ever truly progress or if we are simply circling the same drain of human error. Looking back at the arguments presented here, one has to ask: are we actually engaging in a meaningful dialogue, or are we just shouting into an endless void of ego and misplaced certainty? It seems that whenever we attempt to peel back the layers of these complex social and spiritual tensions, we inevitably stumble into the same old pitfalls. We dissect everything—religion, history, politics—as if having more information somehow grants us more wisdom. But does it? Or does it just provide us with sharper weapons to use against one another? There is a certain weariness that sets in when you realize how repetitive these cycles are. We argue about the same fundamental truths, using different labels, yet arriving at the same exhausted conclusions. Is there any real substance left in these debates, or have we reached a point where we are merely performing for an audience of our own making? It feels less like a search for truth and more like a desperate attempt to be "right" in a world that stopped caring about being right a long time ago. (Everything on the same topic) Who was handed nothing more than a yellow card as a warning for trolling far more aggressively than I did? This serves merely as an example of the inconsistent criteria at play. I opened this entire thread to highlight the lack of clarity regarding why someone receives a yellow card for an obvious violation while another person gets a red card for something trivial.

And here is yet another post from rowdyhawk10 on this same topic. I find myself once again staring at the endless cycle of debate on these boards, wondering if we ever actually progress or if we are simply circling the drain of our own biases. Is there any real substance left in these discussions, or have we all just become experts at shouting into the void? Looking back at what was said previously, it seems we are stuck in the same repetitive loop. Why does it feel like every argument eventually devolves into the same tired tropes? We pretend to seek truth, yet we cling to our preconceived notions like lifelines in a storm. It’s a wearying spectacle to witness. One has to wonder: at what point does the noise become too much to bear? Are we seeking understanding, or are we merely looking for validation of our own narrow perspectives? It feels as though the more we talk, the less we actually communicate. It’s a profound irony, isn't it? To be so connected and yet so fundamentally isolated in our thoughts.

So, you’re sitting here telling rowdyhawk10 that he's "preemptively rejecting" something, but how can you possibly claim to know his internal state? You don't actually know if he's rejecting it or not. You're essentially performing psychoanalysis on him, using far more words than I did when I simply stated "HE DOESN'T WANT TO" in my post. Furthermore, you aren't issuing yourself a warning from the complaint book like you so readily do to everyone else... how exactly does that logic work? Could someone please explain that to me?

Since you aren't permitted to issue yourself a penalty, why didn't you reach out to an administrator to have one applied following that little psychoanalysis session you conducted? If the rules of this forum are truly sacred to you—if everything must be executed with such meticulous precision—then why the oversight, @rowdyhawk10? Where did this lapse in judgment come from?

Here is my formal complaint regarding the top thread on religion. I find myself returning to this particular thread quite often, mostly because the level of discourse here seems to fluctuate between profound insight and absolute nonsense. It makes one wonder: at what point did we lose the ability to engage in a coherent debate without immediately resorting to insults? Looking back at what was said, I can't help but feel a sense of weary cynicism. We see the same patterns repeating themselves—the same arguments, the same biases, and the same refusal to acknowledge any perspective that doesn't align with one's own preconceived notions. Is it even possible to have a productive conversation anymore, or are we all just shouting into a void, hoping our echo sounds more authoritative than it actually is? It’s a strange phenomenon, isn't it? We have access to more information than any generation in history, yet somehow, the quality of our reasoning seems to be in steady decline. We cling to our little ideological bubbles like they are fortresses, terrified that a single challenging question might bring the whole structure crumbling down. I suppose that's just the nature of things now. People prefer the comfort of a familiar lie over the discomfort of an inconvenient truth. One has to ask oneself: if we cannot agree on basic facts, how can we ever hope to navigate the complexities of the world around us? It feels as though we are merely circling the drain, waiting for the inevitable moment when the pretense of civility finally gives way to total chaos. And this is Eminem's response. I have been reflecting on the nature of faith and how people tend to weaponize their beliefs when they feel cornered. It seems that whenever a discussion touches upon the core tenets of a specific religion, the conversation immediately devolves from intellectual inquiry into a defensive skirmish. Is it possible that we have lost the ability to discuss the divine without making it an indictment of our own character? Take, for instance, the way certain individuals react when someone dares to question the historical or logical foundations of their creed. Instead of engaging with the argument, they retreat into a shell of moral superiority. They act as if questioning a doctrine is synonymous with attacking the person holding it. Isn't that a bit much? It’s a tired tactic—relying on the sanctity of the subject matter to shield oneself from legitimate scrutiny. We see this pattern repeated constantly. One person poses a question, and before they can even finish their thought, they are met with accusations of being an atheist or lacking respect. Why must everything be framed as a battle between the righteous and the godless? Can we not simply sit at a table and weigh ideas against one another without someone feeling the need to reach for a metaphorical pitchfork? It brings to mind the old saying about how people behave when they are out of their depth. When the logic fails, the emotion takes over. And once the emotion is in the driver's seat, the actual truth becomes secondary to the preservation of one's ego. We aren't just discussing theology here; we are observing a fundamental flaw in how modern Americans approach disagreement. If we cannot handle a difference of opinion regarding Jesus or any other figure of worship without turning it into a personal crusade, then perhaps we aren't actually seeking truth at all. Perhaps we are just seeking validation.

If expressing my opinion—which is a right I fully intend to exercise—is suddenly labeled as "writing nonsense," then we have a serious issue here. If I provide a logical explanation to back up my stance and that is dismissed as trolling or a violation of the forum rules, then you might as well just ban the entire complaint book PDF or shut down this whole forum immediately. Why? Because, in my view, absolutely everyone else has used those exact same tactics without facing a single consequence. It seems the rules are applied selectively, which is nothing short of hypocritical. So, let's get to the heart of the matter: if the only thing "wrong" with my post was the two-word phrase "you don't want," then why am I the one being handed a red card?

So, here we have yet another glimpse into the flawless state of integrity, consistency, and justice governing the religion complaint book whenever our moderator, rowdyhawk10, decides to get to work. Just take a look at this. Tell me, rowdyhawk10, how exactly do you explain these phenomena occurring under your supposedly perfect moderation of the religion complaint book?

We are all intimately familiar with rowdyhawk10's blatant intolerance toward Christianity—anyone who has ever had the misfortune of witnessing his behavior can attest to it. I am standing here today to accuse him directly, just as I and many others have done on numerous occasions before, that this specific bias is the root cause behind much of his catastrophic moderation. Is it not obvious? Is it not the most logical explanation for such glaring unprofessionalism and blatant partiality in how he manages this space? I challenge you to try and talk me out of this conclusion. Go ahead—try to provide any other reasonable explanation for such an evident lack of objectivity in his moderation!

Greetings,

2. I wasn't psychoanalyzing Jacob. Especially not with phrases like "you're writing nonsense because...". On the contrary, I had a pleasant dialogue with him, both of us showing mutual respect. Furthermore, Jacob hasn't expressed any grievance about being psychoanalyzed. Quite the opposite, I suspect he doesn't hold any resentment toward me and finds me to be a decent interlocutor... which seems evident from his replies to me. He is welcome to chime in here if he feels otherwise.

3. Regarding the rest of the accusations in the opening post (concerning your strike), I responded to you first via private message, and subsequently within the complaint book thread. Best,
ruggedeagle10 ruggedeagle10 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Oct 2010
#3 ·
rowdyhawk10 said:WE
1. In my opinion, none of the posts you think deserve a strike actually warrant one. Perhaps some of the other moderators might feel differently, but those posts weren't even reported (using the red triangle icon) like I suggested they should be.

2. I wasn't psychoanalyzing Jacob. Especially not with phrases like "you're writing nonsense because...". On the contrary, I had a pleasant dialogue with him, both of us showing mutual respect. Furthermore, Jacob hasn't expressed any grievance about being psychoanalyzed. Quite the opposite, I suspect he doesn't hold any resentment toward me and finds me to be a decent interlocutor... which seems evident from his replies to me. He is welcome to chime in here if he feels otherwise.

3. Regarding the rest of the accusations in the opening post (concerning your strike), I responded to you first via private message, and subsequently within the complaint book thread. Best,

Of course they don't merit a strike "in your opinion," because your opinion is biased, subjective, misleading, and so blatantly transparent that it’s almost impressive!

Regarding using the red triangle icon to report—I am not here to play snitch or file endless reports; I am here to point out the injustice and the sheer perfidy you employ in your moderation toward anyone who disagrees with you or anyone you deem "unfit"... but regardless, I sent you a private message after issuing my strike to point out those other posts that actually deserve sanctions and to notify you of them. I believe the red triangle is meant to ensure moderators are notified... which means you were notified. Whether it was via the icon or a direct DM is secondary... if you had any shred of integrity and weren't so busy being stubborn, you would simply do your job properly. But that isn't your goal, is it? You are driven by your own subjective and, frankly, repulsive motives—silencing and attempting to censor anyone you perceive as a threat, people who actually beat you in arguments with logic, leaving you with nothing to do but lash out with dishonest strikes!

Your actions are shameful and pathetic!

rowdyhawk10 said:WE
1. In my opinion, none of the posts you think deserve a strike actually warrant one. Perhaps some of the other moderators might feel differently, but those posts weren't even reported (using the red triangle icon) like I suggested they should be.

2. I wasn't psychoanalyzing Jacob. Especially not with phrases like "you're writing nonsense because...". On the contrary, I had a pleasant dialogue with him, both of us showing mutual respect. Furthermore, Jacob hasn't expressed any grievance about being psychoanalyzed. Quite the opposite, I suspect he doesn't hold any resentment toward me and finds me to be a decent interlocutor... which seems evident from his replies to me. He is welcome to chime in here if he feels otherwise.

3. Regarding the rest of the accusations in the opening post (concerning your strike), I responded to you first via private message, and subsequently within the complaint book thread. Best,

2. Oh, give me a break. You weren't psychoanalyzing Jacob?? Well, I didn't expect you to admit it! Just as I claim I wasn't psychoanalyzing him, that doesn't stop you from arbitrarily and shamelessly interpreting the posts of your "dangerous" dissenters! However, if we look at the facts and the criteria that should be applied equally and consistently to everyone... if my comments were psychoanalysis, then yours were 100% as well!

I explained this earlier; these were your own words: "But it's awkward when you dismiss something in advance." If we are using that as our criterion for psychoanalysis?? You are telling him that what he is doing is "awkward" without even knowing if he is actually doing it or not... any honest, objective person with a modicum of common sense can see through that! That post alone deserves a sanction, yet where are the others on that thread who haven't been penalized, despite you being notified by an honest moderator—whether via the triangle or a direct DM!??

The fact that you fail to act or recognize when Jacob violates the forum rules, even after you were notified, proves that you lack the capacity to objectively and fairly discern who truly deserves consequences for their posts!

If someone voices their frustration, you're supposed to act—not just sit there playing the part of the impartial, honest moderator while pretending otherwise. But instead, we see this sudden rush to show approval, which only started after I issued my warning, an action that Jacob was clearly thrilled about. You both seem quite happy to pat each other on the back; he enjoys your blatant bias, and you enjoy refusing to hand him the warnings he rightfully earned under any fair set of rules. Look, man, I’m not blind. Let's stop playing games and pretending we don't know what's happening here. Enough is enough.

rowdyhawk10 said:WE
1. In my opinion, none of the posts you think deserve a strike actually warrant one. Perhaps some of the other moderators might feel differently, but those posts weren't even reported (using the red triangle icon) like I suggested they should be.

2. I wasn't psychoanalyzing Jacob. Especially not with phrases like "you're writing nonsense because...". On the contrary, I had a pleasant dialogue with him, both of us showing mutual respect. Furthermore, Jacob hasn't expressed any grievance about being psychoanalyzed. Quite the opposite, I suspect he doesn't hold any resentment toward me and finds me to be a decent interlocutor... which seems evident from his replies to me. He is welcome to chime in here if he feels otherwise.

3. Regarding the rest of the accusations in the opening post (concerning your strike), I responded to you first via private message, and subsequently within the complaint book thread. Best,

3. Your responses have been nothing but lies, distortions, and smoke and mirrors. In this specific instance, it is painfully obvious that you are biased and dishonest, relying on manipulation and planted evidence. Any decent person who takes a moment to look into this case will see exactly who is who in this story.

rowdyhawk10, there is no point in trying to debate you or resolve this reasonably because you are completely deaf to any criticism regarding your moderation. Frankly, your management is an absolute disaster. Your motives are common knowledge by now, and most of the users in the Religion section, along with several of your fellow moderators, agree with me. Yet, you still cling desperately to lies, fabrications, and constant twisting of the truth. It's truly pathetic.

That is why I ask, supermods, admins, or anyone actually competent in these matters, to step in and deal with the rowdyhawk10 situation. This moderator's reign of terror has crossed a line... this has been going on since May of this year, for heaven's sake. You are far too late.

Regards,
ruggedeagle10 ruggedeagle10 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Oct 2010
#4 ·
So, is anyone from the administration actually going to step up and address this issue? Are all these complaints regarding the moderators on this forum either completely justified or just being tossed out the window? Is there truly no desire or will here to correct mistakes, or even to attempt establishing a sense of fairness and justice where possible?

I suppose you don't care; matters like this are beneath your notice, aren't they?

Go ahead and leave the miserable people to their fate... you can just close this thread!

Regards
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#5 ·
ruggedeagle10 said:So, is anyone from the administration actually going to step up and address this issue? Are all these complaints regarding the moderators on this forum either completely justified or just being tossed out the window? Is there truly no desire or will here to correct mistakes, or even to attempt establishing a sense of fairness and justice where possible?

I suppose you don't care; matters like this are beneath your notice, aren't they?

Go ahead and leave the miserable people to their fate... you can just close this thread!

Regards

All those complaints and grievances don't serve any purpose, other than being good
hand exercise for your muscles. 🙂 Honestly, there's no point in stressing over someone else's
wrongdoing; better to just step away. 😁
If you want to read about "establishing fairness and justice," check out the Miscellaneous section under the Moderator Corner,
which is open to us regular forum users, dating back to 2004. For instance, look up the topic List for...
part 3, and so on. 🙄 Once I read it, I wondered why we should even bother
writing more, whether in the complaint book pdf religion or the complaint book? 🤦 Something, 🙄 well,
has changed. Yeah, right. ☕ If I had seen that sooner, I would have saved myself
time, nerves, and even some cash. 🥳

Best,

by Wild. 👋
redmarlin3 redmarlin3 Active Member
132 messages
joined Apr 2010
#6 ·
Peter Stewart6 said:All those complaints and grievances don't serve any purpose, other than being good
hand exercise for your muscles. 🙂 Honestly, there's no point in stressing over someone else's
wrongdoing; better to just step away. 😁
If you want to read about "establishing fairness and justice," check out the Miscellaneous section under the Moderator Corner,
which is open to us regular forum users, dating back to 2004. For instance, look up the topic List for...
part 3, and so on. 🙄 Once I read it, I wondered why we should even bother
writing more, whether in the complaint book pdf religion or the complaint book? 🤦 Something, 🙄 well,
has changed. Yeah, right. ☕ If I had seen that sooner, I would have saved myself
time, nerves, and even some cash. 🥳

Best,

by Wild. 👋

😲 Jesus Christ, I feel like nobody noticed that this is VISIBLE AGAIN after they've already hacked our moderator tools a few times already... 🙄

Thanks for the info, I'm going to go report this to the system admins. 🙂
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#7 ·
redmarlin3 said:😲 Jesus Christ, I feel like nobody noticed that this is VISIBLE AGAIN after they've already hacked our moderator tools a few times already... 🙄

Thanks for the info, I'm going to go report this to the system admins. 🙂

Yeah, it's definitely visible. As for who actually caught it or missed it, I couldn't say—but I certainly did.
So, your "I bet nobody noticed" part doesn't really hold up. 🙂

Thanks for the info, I'll go let the sysadmins know. 🙂

No worries at all. Honestly, what I read just left me feeling pretty grossed out. 🤦
redmarlin3 redmarlin3 Active Member
132 messages
joined Apr 2010
#8 ·
Peter Stewart6 said:Yeah, it's definitely visible. As for who actually caught it or missed it, I couldn't say—but I certainly did.
So, your "I bet nobody noticed" part doesn't really hold up. 🙂

Thanks for the info, I'll go let the sysadmins know. 🙂

No worries at all. Honestly, what I read just left me feeling pretty grossed out. 🤦

When I said "I bet nobody noticed," I was talking about the people in charge—the mods and admins. If they had seen it, they would've scrubbed it already. But honestly, it feels like nobody's even home today. I just sent an email to the boss a moment ago, too...🤦
Joseph Watson3 Joseph Watson3 Active Member
98 messages
joined Mar 2012
#9 ·
Peter Stewart6 said:Yeah, it's definitely visible. As for who actually caught it or missed it, I couldn't say—but I certainly did.
So, your "I bet nobody noticed" part doesn't really hold up. 🙂

Thanks for the info, I'll go let the sysadmins know. 🙂

No worries at all. Honestly, what I read just left me feeling pretty grossed out. 🤦

This is an absolute scandal!

I am utterly appalled!!

I demand to be deregistered and have every single one of my posts deleted!!!
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#10 ·
Peter Stewart6 said:All those complaints and grievances don't serve any purpose, other than being good
hand exercise for your muscles. 🙂 Honestly, there's no point in stressing over someone else's
wrongdoing; better to just step away. 😁
If you want to read about "establishing fairness and justice," check out the Miscellaneous section under the Moderator Corner,
which is open to us regular forum users, dating back to 2004. For instance, look up the topic List for...
part 3, and so on. 🙄 Once I read it, I wondered why we should even bother
writing more, whether in the complaint book pdf religion or the complaint book? 🤦 Something, 🙄 well,
has changed. Yeah, right. ☕ If I had seen that sooner, I would have saved myself
time, nerves, and even some cash. 🥳

Best,

by Wild. 👋

In the specific thread mentioned ("List for... part 3"), there wasn't any mention of the Religion pdf,
nor did any of the moderators from the Religion section post anything there. 🙂 Best regards,
feralpilot0 feralpilot0 Active Member
142 messages
joined Jul 2018
#11 ·
Peter Stewart6 said:Yeah, it's definitely visible. As for who actually caught it or missed it, I couldn't say—but I certainly did.
So, your "I bet nobody noticed" part doesn't really hold up. 🙂

Thanks for the info, I'll go let the sysadmins know. 🙂

No worries at all. Honestly, what I read just left me feeling pretty grossed out. 🤦

Peter Stewart6, it was a joke—deliberately placed there for a reason.
fadedsailor57 fadedsailor57 Member
11 messages
joined May 2013
#12 ·
feralpilot0 said:Peter Stewart6, it was a joke—deliberately placed there for a reason.

And there goes feralpilot0, messing everything up. 😢
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#13 ·
feralpilot0 said:Peter Stewart6, it was a joke—deliberately placed there for a reason.

feralpilot0, obviously I'm not silly enough to think it was written exactly
just like that, hehe. 🤣 No, joke or not, it’s just unpleasant to read. I don't really care to
get bogged down in sentence structures, who meant what or didn't mean what, or any little digs at how naive
individuals on this thread might be. So, let's skip the jokes, Peter Stewart6, it isn't working.
Nice try but bad choice. 😬
The main thing is that you reached out to the mods here before the thread was locked, which means people actually are reading this.
And that was Wild's question. 😁

Best. 👋

Edit: rowdyhawk10, there are other "fine" (your favorite term 😁) threads (not just List ... 3),
so your defense case doesn't really hold up here. Best. 😬
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#14 ·
redmarlin3 said:When I said "I bet nobody noticed," I was talking about the people in charge—the mods and admins. If they had seen it, they would've scrubbed it already. But honestly, it feels like nobody's even home today. I just sent an email to the boss a moment ago, too...🤦

🤔 Khhhm, that's too bad. Maybe the boss will give you a promotion, redmarlin3 🤷 (assuming you didn't forget that I was the one who told you). 🤣 Then maybe I'll get a promotion myself. 😂

Best. 👋
Drew Morgan Drew Morgan Active Member
189 messages
joined Aug 2009
#15 ·
redmarlin3 said:😲 Jesus Christ, I feel like nobody noticed that this is VISIBLE AGAIN after they've already hacked our moderator tools a few times already... 🙄

Thanks for the info, I'm going to go report this to the system admins. 🙂

It’s adorable how you're shocked about the hacking instead of being shocked by what you guys are actually posting there. Truly precious. 👍
ruggedeagle10 ruggedeagle10 MemberOP
25 messages
joined Oct 2010
#16 ·
Since you clearly lack the integrity to close this thread as I requested—likely because you realize I am right and have nothing left to say—I will simply outline one more absurdity from this endless list. This post exposes the very heart of the problem. I won't be engaging further after this; it is patently useless. Go ahead and issue a ban or delete my posts if it makes you feel better, but leave this specific entry intact so people can actually read it and see what is happening here. This is the crux of the matter.

This is a follow-up regarding the most recent complaints concerning the Religion section...

Just take a look at what the moderator rowdyhawk10 is writing and the perspective he holds... He essentially claims and believes that Christianity and Christians do not exist. He maintains that everyone who today calls themselves a Christian (meaning anyone who views Christ as their teacher and believes in him, regardless of whether they belong to an organized institution or not) does not exist as a believer. He denies the label and denies these people their status as believers, implying they are merely superstitious, fabricated quasi-believers whom he wipes from existence as if they were mere dust. Furthermore, he suggests that those who truly follow Jesus's teachings are found exclusively among Muslims and Jews! He doesn't use those exact words, of course, as he lacks the courage to state them so bluntly, but reading between the lines, there is no other conclusion to draw.

Now, he is entitled to his opinion. Personally, I find it completely delusional and misguided, but he has the right to hold it, and he is free to spread it. However, one cannot hold a moderator position while harboring such extreme views and stances; he simply cannot remain impartial or objective, he cannot... and his moderation style proves it. Here is an example of the very issue I mentioned above, for which you have offered no response, choosing instead to maintain this silence!

To put it plainly: for him, Christians—by that name and by their faith in God—do not exist. In his view, all who claim the title are just superstitious. He might mask his language, but that is exactly what he means. It is an incredible level of extremism and absurdity, though I suppose it is perfectly "legal" and "legitimate" within this framework... But now, explain to me: how can a man with such radical views possibly serve as an objective, unbiased moderator? If his actions didn't prove otherwise, one might even think it was possible, but in numerous instances, he uses his moderation to push his extreme and fanatical agenda. Having a moderator like this in the Religion section is unprecedented!

It would be like if I walked onto a forum with a Mexican domain, where the majority of users are presumably Mexican, a community meant to be free, tolerant, and open to everyone. Suppose I am a moderator and I start posting nonsense claiming that Mexicans as a people don't actually exist, that it's an invented term, and that these people don't even correctly believe in Mexico as their homeland (don't nitpick my wording for relevance, as we aren't on a dedicated Mexican forum, but you get the point). My case is even more egregious because, to me, faith precedes nationality... yet I would be acting as a moderator, supposedly managing the forum impartially and honestly. How is that even possible?

How is any kind of normal dialogue, debate, or cooperation possible with such a person? He explicitly tells me that I do not exist as a believer, that my faith and the name of that faith are fabrications that have nothing to do with Jesus... And yet, a man with such extreme, delusional views is allowed to distribute injustice here. He doesn't just moderate; he acts like a tyrant, the "first among equals" on the complaint book PDF. He manages most of the content, hovering over me, while I sit here waiting for him to strike with a ban whenever a post doesn't suit his whims, all while people similar to him are largely tolerated!

Do you understand the sheer circus and absurdity of this situation? I can barely wrap my head around it myself... 😂 and there is no way I will continue to participate in this as long as a man with such views and such...The way things are written and moderated here dictates what qualifies as acceptable content, what earns a ban, and what gets scrubbed entirely. There is this constant, looming threat of censorship hanging over everything. I find myself having to weigh every single word just to ensure I don't offend the great rowdyhawk10... No, I’m done with the theories! Peace out, everyone. 🙂
Peter Stewart6 Peter Stewart6 Member
18 messages
joined May 2010
#17 ·
Since I wasn't able to get back to you on that complaint book pdf religion (in the meantime...
The thread is closed, anyway. I've been publicly called out for "censoring PDFs and threatening Christian values."
😲 Just following up on what Hi-Fi said, picking things back up right after the Wild West stuff...
I'm with Hannah Thompson2 on this one. That was written by the moderator rowdyhawk10, which is honestly pretty sad.
So, I wanted to jump in here and respond, mostly because I find myself agreeing with what ruggedeagle10 wrote.
Without having coordinated anything with him or anyone else via private message (which happens quite often...)
Given how that moderator builds their arguments, I can't say what my response would be. In my case, there just isn't anything to respond to.
That moderator really ought to know better and show some respect, instead of just throwing us all into the same bucket as the people who actually caused the trouble.
They probably already know exactly who they're talking about when they make a claim like that. 🤷
I'm not trying to push for "censorship," and I don't consider myself "under threat," nor am I suffering from any kind of "Christian" bias.
I'm not trying to cause any trouble or create threats. Just so we're clear, I'm not trolling the threads, I'm not cloning accounts, and I have no intention of disrupting the work being done here on the forum.
The administration and the moderators... I don't think so, at least not really. But if I were to include the specific post number for that complaint, then maybe.
I don't see a designated spot like this as something that would cause interference or stir up any kind of chaos or riots. Rather...
I just have this desire to finally see some real promotion happening—to actually see an admin step up, own their mistakes, and genuinely try to fix things.
Get rid of it. It would be only fair if the moderators actually realized that and accepted it as an absolute fact.

I didn't stop writing in that complaint book pdf religion, mostly because I felt like I was being targeted, but...
Just because of the reasons ruggedeagle10 mentioned in the text above. It's honestly pretty sad that...
He's allowed to act like this? rowdyhawk10's selfishness has honestly gone way too far. Moderator Veronica.
He’s basically following the moderator's lead, but he hasn't quite caught up yet, even though he's trying his best. 🙄
Threatening users with partial bans—just hoping the admin will eventually lift them—or going straight for the permanent ban.
(To be read in the complaint book) These are just pathetic. It’s exactly like those insinuations that some guy has been a forum member for months now.
ruggedeagle10 is "creating panic in the threads." I'm not here to act as a lawyer or try to organize anyone, I'm just speaking up because...
I don't want to keep starting new threads about complaints regarding moderation, and this one is still open.
How can I get in touch with the moderator in charge? 🤷
Is this kind of conversation actually what we call tolerance and being welcoming?
So, what exactly is rowdyhawk10 pushing for here? Is he just trying to shut down anyone who wants to speak up about what's bothering them?
And on top of that, the moderator is actually citing the forum rules?

The same moderator writes two massive posts just to explain why he wasn't being off-topic (responding to feralpilot0), yet if any of us regular users spoke to him that way, we’d probably catch a permanent ban with some pretty nasty reasoning thrown in for good measure.
www.catholics.org because "this isn't a religious forum." 🙄 So, I guess he can say whatever he wants, even in the off-topic section.
And us regular forum users just have to sit here and take all of it. On top of that, there are these constant insinuations that we're trying to tear the forum down, or even worse, that we're trying to group up against everyone. 🙄

Like I mentioned earlier, they’re accusing me of something really low, something I didn't even...
It hasn't even crossed my mind. I'm definitely not the only one who ended up in a conflict with him—there were two of us.
The moderators I mentioned... they just make people look like fools with how they act, and...
I don't want to take advantage of whatever situations might arise. A lot of people have already left.
It was in the complaint book pdf religion from before, and even more recently. And they aren't Christians. So what's the actual issue?
Or who else? It’s just not possible that such a huge number of people would leave just like that. There has to be a reason behind it.
That's how we got here. We really need to start treating the cause instead of just chasing the symptoms. The symptom is...
People getting kicked off the PDF. The reason remains the same: sheer rudeness and a total disregard for the human spirit.
It's just people who lack any actual spirit imposing shackles on others while pretending they possess it.
In the end, they wrap it all up in cellophane, claiming it's about "not following the rules,"
as if saying, "Yeah, we felt free to trample you..." or "We forced you to leave on your own." That’s just
a scheme where they hide behind the guise of pacifism 🙄 while actually employing
intimidation and blackmail—preceded, of course, by sweet talk.
What else is blackmail if not claiming they can defend their faith, rather than never, never, never, and
the RKC, which is already embarrassed enough as it is. What else was I supposed to expect after that besides what I got—psychological harassment via the PDF? Just because I stood my ground. There’s plenty more of that happening, though I won't say more. ☕

Now, a different situation is unfolding: appeals to "goodwill, learning, and getting to know one another." Why? Probably because they realized they went too far, so now they're trying to patch over the holes with
some cheap gum and a little bit of smoke and mirrors, hoping nobody notices before the next opportunity comes along. 🙄 People aren't fools. To some, it might
seem like they are, but they aren't. You're only as much of a fool as you allow others to make you. Even then, you're not really a fool, but let those doing it live in the delusion that you are. The truth is something else entirely. ☕

P.S. Of course, there are moderators and super-mods on this forum whom I have interacted with respectfully. I still respect them. They know who they are; if names are needed, I'll provide them. In every grain of wheat,
there are parasites, and this isn't any different.
But I won't go hunting for them; someone else is responsible for that. And I don't want to generalize, whether regarding the moderation or
anything else.

Best.
Hannah Thompson2 Hannah Thompson2 Active Member
113 messages
joined Jul 2005
#18 ·
Since there isn't any room left to discuss the code of conduct and complaint book ii over in that thread, I’m moving the conversation here—so, rowdyhawk10, why don't you weigh in right here:

regarding this

and this
rowdyhawk10 rowdyhawk10 Active Member
123 messages
joined Oct 2009
#19 ·
Hannah Thompson2,
I have no intention of getting dragged into theological debates with you here on the complaint book forum (since that falls under the domain of Religion).
If you feel like I've actually wronged you, just specify what it was (provide a link and an explanation).
Here are the general guidelines on how to file a grievance: Best, 🙂
rustyfalcon38 rustyfalcon38 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2009
#20 ·
Let me clear one thing up—the opinion I’m sharing here isn't just mine; it represents a whole group of former contributors to the Religion PDF who walked away from this forum specifically because of the moderator in question. There is this overwhelming sense of arrogance—a blatant dismissal of anyone else who comes to the Religion section, especially Christians. As a believer of Jewish descent, I embrace the Messiah and his teachings; I’ve been interested in this PDF for quite some time and truly wanted to join the conversation. But when I see how people are treated simply for disagreeing—with a vibe more akin to those repulsive sites like Islamosna—I lose all desire to participate. Certain things should be self-evident: the religious and cultural background of Americans is over 90% Christian, and I believe moderators should act with that responsibility in mind (after all, When in Rome, do as Romans do, right?). Instead, we see favoritism toward nonsense like "Jesus is gay because of how he combs his hair," claims that Christians are polytheists, accusations of "corrupt faith," or assertions that Muslims are the only ones on the right path. It’s garbage. Plenty of people have abandoned this forum precisely because such statements are tolerated far more leniently than any criticism of Islam. One gets the distinct impression that there is no clear leadership and no unified direction for moderation policy, while in the meantime, the individual in charge uses that vacuum to push their own propaganda. This PDF is slowly dying; engagement is dropping, and if things continue this way, it might just reach its end, because people are genuinely losing interest and quite literally running for the exits.

Shalom 🙂

You must log in or register to reply here.

Log in Register

🔗 Similar threads