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Is moderator Johnny B. Goode unbiased?

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Participants crimsonjackal63Ronald AllenJerry Martinez5hollowtrucker77Richard Perez3
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active MemberOP
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joined Mar 2012
#1 ·
frch says:
frch
Why isn't it allowed on Reddit to ask which song people feel more connected to—"America the Beautiful" or "From Sea to Shining Sea"?

moderator Johnny B. Goode responds
Johnny B. Goode
Because those two songs were sung under completely different regimes—they represent two totally different countries—and frankly, we don't need topics like that cluttering up the Politics subforum here on Reddit.

So, I’m left wondering—and I mean this sincerely:
1) Why does a moderator refer to the democratically elected government of the United States as a "regime"?
2) Can a moderator like that actually stay impartial while running the Politics subforum?
Ronald Allen Ronald Allen Active Member
160 messages
joined Oct 2010
#2 ·
crimsonjackal63 said:frch says:
frch
Why isn't it allowed on Reddit to ask which song people feel more connected to—"America the Beautiful" or "From Sea to Shining Sea"?

moderator Johnny B. Goode responds
Johnny B. Goode
Because those two songs were sung under completely different regimes—they represent two totally different countries—and frankly, we don't need topics like that cluttering up the Politics subforum here on Reddit.

So, I’m left wondering—and I mean this sincerely:
1) Why does a moderator refer to the democratically elected government of the United States as a "regime"?
2) Can a moderator like that actually stay impartial while running the Politics subforum?

Let’s get one thing straight—like, 90% of the people on this site are actually decent, normal users. If they were the only ones online, moderators wouldn't even need to exist, let alone be writing stuff like this. The problem is that tiny little group making up the other 10%. Because of them, moderators end up hating their jobs, this whole site, and probably the entire world.

The Internet offers incredible anonymity. It’s way too easy to just sink into an armchair, grab a huge bag of popcorn, crack open a beer, light up a cigarette, and hit connect. You could basically take that old Microsoft slogan “where do you want to go today” and tack on “to cause trouble”. Well, the moderator is there to stop that. Individual freedom always ends where someone else's rights begin. But some people hide behind the screen to harass others or try to hijack digital spaces for themselves. So what happens? The moderator steps in. They warn, edit, delete, or ban. Most troublemakers take it personally or try to prove they're the boss.


source: netiquette—the rules for decent behavior in online communities

Look, if you actually bother to read the article quoted above, and if you happen to fall into any of those "troublemaker" categories, then your complaint doesn't have a leg to stand on. I mean, if this user is out here comparing the old America era with songs about being "beautiful" to modern American anthems—especially after trashing old singers in one thread and praising current ones in another—then they deserve exactly what they got. If the admins disagree, hey, feel free to give me a warning.

So, to sum it up: it sounds like the Politics section is just a roadside bathroom for you—somewhere to take care of business before moving on with your day. Well, someone has to clean up the mess.

P.S. If frch needs a lawyer, I’d suggest finding someone actually famous. ☕
Best,

Ronald Allen
Jerry Martinez5 Jerry Martinez5 Regular
278 messages
joined Apr 2009
#3 ·
crimsonjackal63 said:frch says:
frch
Why isn't it allowed on Reddit to ask which song people feel more connected to—"America the Beautiful" or "From Sea to Shining Sea"?

moderator Johnny B. Goode responds
Johnny B. Goode
Because those two songs were sung under completely different regimes—they represent two totally different countries—and frankly, we don't need topics like that cluttering up the Politics subforum here on Reddit.

So, I’m left wondering—and I mean this sincerely:
1) Why does a moderator refer to the democratically elected government of the United States as a "regime"?
2) Can a moderator like that actually stay impartial while running the Politics subforum?

Maybe try using Google before you start a whole thread?

For instance, Wikipedia, which is basically a lifesaver for anyone with gaps in their education. Or do you honestly think it’s some massive scandal to say someone enforced a strict workout regimen or had to follow a special diet for health reasons?

Sure, the current administration in America is nothing like a communist regime, or how things were back during the era of the old guard.
hollowtrucker77 hollowtrucker77 Regular
681 messages
joined Nov 2007
#4 ·
Why hasn't anyone slapped a ban on this troll yet?
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active MemberOP
55 messages
joined Mar 2012
#5 ·
Ronald Allen said:Let’s get one thing straight—like, 90% of the people on this site are actually decent, normal users. If they were the only ones online, moderators wouldn't even need to exist, let alone be writing stuff like this. The problem is that tiny little group making up the other 10%. Because of them, moderators end up hating their jobs, this whole site, and probably the entire world.

The Internet offers incredible anonymity. It’s way too easy to just sink into an armchair, grab a huge bag of popcorn, crack open a beer, light up a cigarette, and hit connect. You could basically take that old Microsoft slogan “where do you want to go today” and tack on “to cause trouble”. Well, the moderator is there to stop that. Individual freedom always ends where someone else's rights begin. But some people hide behind the screen to harass others or try to hijack digital spaces for themselves. So what happens? The moderator steps in. They warn, edit, delete, or ban. Most troublemakers take it personally or try to prove they're the boss.


source: netiquette—the rules for decent behavior in online communities

Look, if you actually bother to read the article quoted above, and if you happen to fall into any of those "troublemaker" categories, then your complaint doesn't have a leg to stand on. I mean, if this user is out here comparing the old America era with songs about being "beautiful" to modern American anthems—especially after trashing old singers in one thread and praising current ones in another—then they deserve exactly what they got. If the admins disagree, hey, feel free to give me a warning.

So, to sum it up: it sounds like the Politics section is just a roadside bathroom for you—somewhere to take care of business before moving on with your day. Well, someone has to clean up the mess.

P.S. If frch needs a lawyer, I’d suggest finding someone actually famous. ☕
Best,

Ronald Allen

I truly, deeply sympathize.
Let’s be real—being a moderator isn't exactly a walk in the park. But then again, if someone actually hates what they do, why on earth would they sign up for it in the first place?
Look, if you actually bother to read the article quoted above, you’ll see that if you fall into any of the categories of those troublemakers mentioned, your complaint is completely baseless. Seriously. If this user is out here comparing the old America days—using songs like "from sea to shining sea"—to the modern American era by praising current singers while trashing everyone from the old regime on one thread and then hyping up today's stars on another—then they earned the exact same kind of response they got. It's just basic logic. If the admins disagree with me on that, then fine—feel free to issue a warning.

Look, I’m not a lawyer, so I really shouldn't be weighing in on this—but since we're here, I'll say my piece.
I still can’t get over how people misuse the word "regime." It really bugs me.

So, let me sum this up—to you people, "Politics on the Edge" is nothing more than a convenient restroom stop. You pull up, take care of your business, and then speed off to whatever else you have going on. Well, someone actually has to clean up the mess you leave behind.

I really hope using the phrase "urgent necessity" doesn't imply what I think it does in this context—
Don't give me that crap...! That kind of response is totally out of line—even for a bot—because it’s straight-up insulting. I asked a perfectly reasonable, civil question, and this is the kind of reaction I get? Unbelievable.

Anyway—I’ll take the apology from moderator Ronald Allen, and I just hope we can move past this. Let's try to stop tossing around the word "regime" like it's part of everyday conversation—it's a bit much.
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active MemberOP
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joined Mar 2012
#6 ·
Jerry Martinez5 said:Maybe try using Google before you start a whole thread?

For instance, Wikipedia, which is basically a lifesaver for anyone with gaps in their education. Or do you honestly think it’s some massive scandal to say someone enforced a strict workout regimen or had to follow a special diet for health reasons?

Sure, the current administration in America is nothing like a communist regime, or how things were back during the era of the old guard.

Dear Jerry Martinez5.
Is the phrase "gaps in education" just a figure of speech here, or are you actually implying:
Are you an idiot?!... If you mean the latter, I have to remind you of the site rules—personal insults get you a warning card.

As for the political definition of the word "Regime," I disagree with you.
Even Wikipedia agrees with me. You just need to do a little better reading.
crimsonjackal63 crimsonjackal63 Active MemberOP
55 messages
joined Mar 2012
#7 ·
hollowtrucker77 said:Why hasn't anyone slapped a ban on this troll yet?

Look, hollowtrucker77, I have to disagree—opening this thread isn't some attempt at trolling, at least not from my perspective.

Since we're here, I might as well ask a follow-up:
Why did I write "Gordan Malić, the absolute bottom of the journalistic barrel, wiped out"—where I basically tear into the pathetic fact that an editor-in-chief of a major paper is shamelessly lying and accusing General Ante Gotovina of stealing artillery logs?
Richard Perez3 Richard Perez3 Active Member
215 messages
joined Dec 2014
#8 ·
Because that’s what the mod decided. Period. If you’re sitting there wondering if he actually has the authority to pull this crap or why he’s acting like this, just go read the sub's FAQ. The moderator has total control over how this board is run—he decides what stays, what goes, and what happens. It's his call.

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