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The Great Gatsby Deception

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Participants lonebearrapidviper54Chloe NguyenSandra Campbell2David Price5briskhound2Emily Thomas3Roger Allen2Patrick Smith44Maria James94wiredtiger10Michelle Long6swiftsurfer27
lonebear lonebear NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
Alright, so it finally dropped a couple days ago. This movie basically packs everything you need to know about the first Black U.S. president into just under two hours (1:50). Honestly, if you give it a watch, you won't regret it.

For me, the biggest gut punch was that final cut (part 11). It perfectly illustrates the pattern societies have been stuck in throughout history: these grand spectacles—decorated with mass euphoria, endless hope, and ultimately, the suffering of countless people—are just the modern sequels to the classics we all know too well, like Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf Hitler.

Full movie here: playlist

THOSE WHO ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT !
rapidviper54 rapidviper54 Active Member
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#2 ·
Great, yet another pseudo-documentary peddling conspiracy theories about the New World Order... 🙄
Chloe Nguyen Chloe Nguyen Member
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#3 ·
I watched it, and I am now fully convinced...

This isn't actually a documentary. It’s more like pretentious propaganda. Though, I suppose a great many people will undoubtedly mistake this for objective fact and truth, feeling quite superior for having seen it while labeling everyone else as mere sheep.

Much like Zeitgeist and those other similar "documentaries," this doesn't really belong on a film forum, given that it possesses absolutely no cinematic or artistic merit (nor does it have any intention of possessing such things). One can only really discuss these pieces from a purely political standpoint.
rapidviper54 rapidviper54 Active Member
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#4 ·
Chloe Nguyen said:I watched it, and I am now fully convinced...

This isn't actually a documentary. It’s more like pretentious propaganda. Though, I suppose a great many people will undoubtedly mistake this for objective fact and truth, feeling quite superior for having seen it while labeling everyone else as mere sheep.

Much like Zeitgeist and those other similar "documentaries," this doesn't really belong on a film forum, given that it possesses absolutely no cinematic or artistic merit (nor does it have any intention of possessing such things). One can only really discuss these pieces from a purely political standpoint.

The Great Gatsby was alright—it actually pushed people to question all those "dogmas" they just take for granted... sure, it’s riddled with errors, but it still holds its own.

This is garbage...
Sandra Campbell2 Sandra Campbell2 Member
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#5 ·
Chloe Nguyen, my dear brother, go take a look at the Fog of War. Go see what Robert McNamara actually meant when he squeezed his thumb and forefinger together and said, "We were this close to a full-scale nuclear world war." Then he follows it up with this: "Yes, John F. Kennedy was a rational man, Nikita Khrushchev was a rational man, and Fidel Castro was a rational man. And yes, it came that close." Meanwhile, hanging on the wall in the White House, there’s a metal calendar for March—I think it was March—with the dates from the 18th to the 28th carved right into it. Those were the "hottest days."

You know, my friend, you're just another idiot who thinks he's smarter than the people who *think* they're smart. You think you've figured out how the gears turn just because you've glanced at the Zeitgeist, but honestly? You're just as clueless as the rest of them—maybe even worse. Do you have access to CIA files? FBI records? NSA documents? ... Please. Do you have insight into anything other than your own ego? What could you possibly talk about in your early twenties? If you're even that old. About what???? What do you know about any of this??? Where did you become some political veteran??? Were you a counter-intelligence officer or something??? Give me a break, man. Just go drink some acid and chill out. The worst part is, there are plenty of people like you today—acting like heroes and intellectuals behind a monitor, when in reality, you're just a spineless conformist walking down the street clutching a designer handbag...
David Price5 David Price5 Regular
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#6 ·
So, based on this, they're fully aware of everything?
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#7 ·
David Price5 said:So, based on this, they're fully aware of everything?

I was pretty much about to ask the exact same thing...
Emily Thomas3 Emily Thomas3 Active Member
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#8 ·
Main thing is, there's a plant in Avatar 🤣 and we can talk about why he wasn't banned later tonight...
briskhound2 briskhound2 Regular
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#9 ·
Emily Thomas3 said:Main thing is, there's a plant in Avatar 🤣 and we can talk about why he wasn't banned later tonight...

Saturday, the weekend, hitting the bars... you know how it goes... just working folks trying to unwind...😉
Roger Allen2 Roger Allen2 Newcomer
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#10 ·
lonebear said:Alright, so it finally dropped a couple days ago. This movie basically packs everything you need to know about the first Black U.S. president into just under two hours (1:50). Honestly, if you give it a watch, you won't regret it.

For me, the biggest gut punch was that final cut (part 11). It perfectly illustrates the pattern societies have been stuck in throughout history: these grand spectacles—decorated with mass euphoria, endless hope, and ultimately, the suffering of countless people—are just the modern sequels to the classics we all know too well, like Mao Zedong, Joseph Stalin, and Adolf Hitler.

Full movie here: playlist

THOSE WHO ARE IGNORANT OF HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT !

Here is the full movie. By the way, love the username. I actually thought about posting this thread over on the alternative board, but decided against it. Maybe it would be better if you posted it there instead (since you're the one who kicked this whole thing off)? I have a feeling it would get way more traction there.
Roger Allen2 Roger Allen2 Newcomer
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#11 ·
rapidviper54 said:The Great Gatsby was alright—it actually pushed people to question all those "dogmas" they just take for granted... sure, it’s riddled with errors, but it still holds its own.

This is garbage...

Come on, back up your claims with some actual arguments.
Roger Allen2 Roger Allen2 Newcomer
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#12 ·
Chloe Nguyen said:I watched it, and I am now fully convinced...

This isn't actually a documentary. It’s more like pretentious propaganda. Though, I suppose a great many people will undoubtedly mistake this for objective fact and truth, feeling quite superior for having seen it while labeling everyone else as mere sheep.

Much like Zeitgeist and those other similar "documentaries," this doesn't really belong on a film forum, given that it possesses absolutely no cinematic or artistic merit (nor does it have any intention of possessing such things). One can only really discuss these pieces from a purely political standpoint.

Propaganda in what sense? Give us some actual facts.
Patrick Smith44 Patrick Smith44 Member
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#13 ·
Sandra Campbell2 said:Chloe Nguyen, my dear brother, go take a look at the Fog of War. Go see what Robert McNamara actually meant when he squeezed his thumb and forefinger together and said, "We were this close to a full-scale nuclear world war." Then he follows it up with this: "Yes, John F. Kennedy was a rational man, Nikita Khrushchev was a rational man, and Fidel Castro was a rational man. And yes, it came that close." Meanwhile, hanging on the wall in the White House, there’s a metal calendar for March—I think it was March—with the dates from the 18th to the 28th carved right into it. Those were the "hottest days."

You know, my friend, you're just another idiot who thinks he's smarter than the people who *think* they're smart. You think you've figured out how the gears turn just because you've glanced at the Zeitgeist, but honestly? You're just as clueless as the rest of them—maybe even worse. Do you have access to CIA files? FBI records? NSA documents? ... Please. Do you have insight into anything other than your own ego? What could you possibly talk about in your early twenties? If you're even that old. About what???? What do you know about any of this??? Where did you become some political veteran??? Were you a counter-intelligence officer or something??? Give me a break, man. Just go drink some acid and chill out. The worst part is, there are plenty of people like you today—acting like heroes and intellectuals behind a monitor, when in reality, you're just a spineless conformist walking down the street clutching a designer handbag...

Reddit is a truly diverse forum; you might even run into secret agents here. 😲
Which side are you on? 🙂
Maria James94 Maria James94 Member
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#14 ·
Patrick Smith44 said:Reddit is a truly diverse forum; you might even run into secret agents here. 😲
Which side are you on? 🙂

You know perfectly well there's no answering that question.
wiredtiger10 wiredtiger10 Member
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#15 ·
Really solid documentary here—it shows the presidency for what it actually is, instead of how all the sheeple see it. For anyone who actually knows a thing or two about the history of this office, it’s obvious that the President isn't the most powerful person on the planet. He’s just a representative for the people who hold the real strings over the banking, industrial, and military systems. That’s just a fact, and it’s been confirmed for decades by the very people pulling the levers.

Unfortunately, there are still people on this planet who think George W. Bush is the best the US has to offer. I mean, shouldn't the President be the absolute best a country can produce, right? Does anyone seriously believe Sarah Palin is one of the top four people capable of leading the most powerful nation on Earth—a country of nearly 300 million people? Are there really people that clueless? The answer is YES. What a joke.

Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us before he left office about the dangers posed by the military-industrial complex. Fast forward to today, and the industry and the military have basically become secondary tools used to enforce the will of the people running the banking system. We know who these people are. This film even names some of them. My "favorite" has to be Henry Kissinger—he always seemed to find a way to land exactly where he could cause the most damage to everyone else. You can even find recordings of his talks with Richard Nixon where they plot out nuclear strikes on Japan—which, of course, happened, because that’s just what Henry does if it doesn't cost him a few dozen million lives. Then there’s that snake Hillary Clinton, who was one of the loudest critics of the American healthcare system before she got bought off—then suddenly, after the bribes, her whole story changed. And don't even get me started on the Rockefellers, probably the biggest criminal family in human history, yet the sheep look at them like they're some kind of knights making wise decisions to make this planet better.

"This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When The President Wilson signs this Bill , The invisible government of The monetary Power will be legalized....the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."
-- Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

"We have, in this country, one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board. This evil institution has impoverished the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. It has done this through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it".
-- Congressman Louis T. McFadden in 1932 (Rep. Pa)

"The Federal Reserve Banks ara One of The most corrupt institutions The World Has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this nation is run by the International bankers
-- Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)

"The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That board asministers The finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people's money"
-- Charles A. Lindbergh Sr., 1923


😲"From now on, depressions will be scientifically created."
-- Congressman Charles A.Lindbergh Sr. , 1913

😲 This one is for all the sheep out in the pastures.

"Some people think the Federal Reserve Banks are the United States government's institutions.They are not government institutions. They are private credit monopolies which prey upon the people of the United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign swindlers"
-- Congressional Record 12595-12603. Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the Committee on Banking and Currency (12 years) June 10, 1932

"We’re totally at the mercy of commercial banks. Every single dollar spinning through our economy—whether it's hard cash or digital credit—has to be borrowed by someone. If the banks pump out enough synthetic money, things look good; if they don't, we starve. We’re basically living without a permanent money system... This is easily the most critical thing any smart person can dig into. Honestly, it’s so vital that our entire civilization might just cave in unless people actually get this and fix the flaws ASAP."
--Robert H. Hamphill, Atlanta Federal Reserve Bank

"Those regional Federal Reserve banks? They aren't government agencies. ...They’re independent, privately owned, and locally run corporations."
-- Lewis vs. United States, 680 F. 2d 1239 9th Circuit 1982

"Anyone who pulls the strings on how much money is flowing in a country is the absolute boss of every single industry and business."
-- James A. Garfield, President of the United States

"I’m a deeply unhappy man. Without even realizing it, I’ve wrecked my own country. This massive industrial powerhouse is being steered by its credit system. And that credit? It's all jammed into the hands of just a handful of guys. We've turned into one of the worst-run, most tightly controlled governments on the planet—it's not a government driven by free thought anymore, or by what the majority actually wants and votes for, but by the whims and
pressure of tiny groups of powerful men."
--President Woodrow Wilson


Thomas Jefferson
"I honestly think banking institutions pose a bigger threat to our freedom than actual standing armies.

"It’s probably for the best that the American public doesn't grasp how our banking and monetary system works—because if they did, I’m convinced there’d be a full-blown revolution before sunrise tomorrow."
-- Henry Ford

"...the way the assets in the Federal Reserve Banks shot up from $143 million in 1913 to $45 billion by 1949 went straight into the pockets of the private stockholders owning those [federal reserve] banks."
-- Eustace Mullins


"Banking was built on corruption and born in sin. The Bankers essentially own the planet. You could try to strip them of everything, but as long as you let them keep the power to create deposits, they can just write a few numbers down and buy it all back. On the other hand, if you actually took that power away, all these massive fortunes—including mine—would vanish. And honestly? They should. The world would be a much better, happier place. But hey, if you want to stay under the thumb of the Bankers and keep paying for your own chains, just let them keep creating deposits."
-- SIR JOSIAH STAMP, (President of the Bank of England in the 1920's, the second richest man in Britain)

"The current banking setup basically conjures money out of thin air. It's probably the wildest magic trick ever pulled. Banks can basically inflate, mint, and unmint modern ledger-based currency whenever they feel like it."
-- MAJOR L.L.B. ANGUS

"The sheep will stay sheep, while the smart ones get even smarter"
--wiredtiger10
Michelle Long6 Michelle Long6 Member
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#16 ·
So, I saw the crappy rating on IMDb and all those bad reviews for this 2009 documentary, but I went ahead and watched it anyway. Honestly? My take is—you should probably check it out. Whether you’re into conspiracy theories or not, it offers some pretty interesting behind-the-scenes looks at how banking lobbies pull the strings on politicians. It also touches on mass manipulation, media indoctrination, the whole global warming myth thing... 9/10
swiftsurfer27 swiftsurfer27 Active Member
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#17 ·
I haven't had a chance to sit down and watch it yet, but it seems this documentary covers all the essential critiques regarding Obama, particularly the segment concerning the "Wall Street government" he inherited from Bush...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSk2S...679912D2581C3F

And honestly, labeling it simply as "the banks" is far too vague; we know exactly who is responsible for the recession, by name and by surname... and

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