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neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#1 ·
Hey there

I’m looking for some help putting together a new build. I actually asked about this a few months back, but I put the whole thing on hold for a bit. Now I’ve finally decided to pull the trigger, but I have no clue if the market has shifted since we last talked.

Basically, I want to spend up to $2500 (just the tower, no monitor). I need something that can handle the Oculus Rift S without breaking a sweat and run games like Minecraft, EA Sports FC, SimCity, Rust, and other open-world titles. I want a machine I can actually enjoy, but the big priority is smooth VR performance—that’s really the main reason I'm upgrading.

If anyone could drop some recommendations, I’d appreciate it. I'm definitely not an expert when it comes to the latest hardware specs.

Thanks in advance 👍
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#2 ·
The text says 7500, but the title says 7000. So, it's 7500 😛

Intel Core 5 3600 BOX, s. AM4, 100-100000031BOX
Asrock B450M SteelSeries, AM4
DDR4 16GB (2x8) G.Skill 3000MHz Corsair, F4-3000C16D-16GISB
Cooler Master Z1 neo Midi Tower Black
Fractal Design 550W Integra M
Patriot SSD 256GB, P300, M.2 2280, PCIe 3.0 x4, P300P256GM28
Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200rpm, 64MB, P300, HDWD110UZSVA
PowerColor RTX 3060 Red Dragon, 8GB GDDR6 , AXRX 3060 8GBD6-3DHR/OC

Total: $2484 eBay.com

A stronger GPU for VR won't fit within this budget.
If you don't mind waiting another month or two, the market should shift quite a bit, and you'll probably be able to get much better gear for the same amount of money.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#3 ·
Adam Moore3 said:The text says 7500, but the title says 7000. So, it's 7500 😛

Intel Core 5 3600 BOX, s. AM4, 100-100000031BOX
Asrock B450M SteelSeries, AM4
DDR4 16GB (2x8) G.Skill 3000MHz Corsair, F4-3000C16D-16GISB
Cooler Master Z1 neo Midi Tower Black
Fractal Design 550W Integra M
Patriot SSD 256GB, P300, M.2 2280, PCIe 3.0 x4, P300P256GM28
Toshiba 1TB 3.5" 7200rpm, 64MB, P300, HDWD110UZSVA
PowerColor RTX 3060 Red Dragon, 8GB GDDR6 , AXRX 3060 8GBD6-3DHR/OC

Total: $2484 eBay.com

A stronger GPU for VR won't fit within this budget.
If you don't mind waiting another month or two, the market should shift quite a bit, and you'll probably be able to get much better gear for the same amount of money.

Yeah, I couldn't change the title anymore lol

What would be a stronger card? Without blowing the budget too much?

Anyway, thanks for the help
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#4 ·
The 2070 Super is decent, though I honestly think Intel has closed the gap significantly with their latest drivers. It’s getting to the point where the 2070S isn't even definitively better anymore -> CLICK
You really only see a major difference in Fallout; everything else feels pretty much identical. It definitely isn't worth jumping up in price by $167.

Regarding your budget, I think you've hit the sweet spot

🙂
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#5 ·
Do you think this rig is actually decent enough to handle current VR titles and whatever comes down the pipeline soon?

Also, regarding the CPU—is there something significantly better out there that won't absolutely wreck my budget? I want a solid processor, even if I have to shell out a bit more. I constantly run into performance bottlenecks in CPU-heavy games, and things start dragging hard once the simulation gets complex (looking at you, Skylines, Rimworld, and those management sims)
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#6 ·
It's hard to call it regarding the future, especially since we're at a point where a massive wave of newer, more powerful hardware is hitting the market. As hardware evolves, games will naturally become more demanding. Right now, the RTX 3060 is probably your best bang for your buck in this category. The only noticeable jump you could get over the RTX 3060 would be moving up to an RTX 2080 Super, which costs nearly twice as much. That’s why I’m saying if this is your budget—and you don't want to wait another two months—you literally can't do better than this.
For performance in current titles, just check out the benchmarks for whatever specific games you care about (for example: CLICK CLICK CLICK), but nobody can tell you for certain how things will run in future titles. If someone claims they know, they have no idea what they're talking about. 🙂

The situation is the same for the processor—the next step up is the 3700X for about $267 more. While the 3600X and 3600XT are technically better than the 3600, it all boils down to a very minor difference since they're essentially the same chips, just paying a few extra bucks for slightly higher clocks and TDP.

My advice? Hold off until something like the RTX 3070 actually hits the shelves here; that would be a significant leap over the RTX 3060. Though, it might take a while before it's actually available at reasonable prices. The MSRP is $500, so roughly $1067, which means once it lands in the US, it'll likely be at least $400 minimum.
Generally speaking, this combo will crush anything at 1080p, and it's the sweet spot for 1440p. But VR is a whole different beast because the tech is still evolving. It's a tricky time to be buying with a tight budget if VR is your main goal.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#7 ·
VR is such a tricky beast because, if you actually want that level of immersion, your GPU has to render two separate 4K images simultaneously while maintaining at least a steady 90 fps. It’s quite a heavy lift, isn't it?

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Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#8 ·
Are you sure about that? I find it hard to believe an RTX 3060 could even come close to THESE kinds of performance levels when we're talking about 4K rendering.
These are more than impressive results for a card like the RTX 3060.
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#9 ·
Adam Moore3 said:Are you sure about that? I find it hard to believe an RTX 3060 could even come close to THESE kinds of performance levels when we're talking about 4K rendering.
These are more than impressive results for a card like the RTX 3060.

Current headsets only offer about half of that resolution, and you can still see the screen-door effect, which personally feels like it completely defeats the whole purpose of VR.

The future of VR really has to move toward 4K per eye—though developers are currently trying, somewhat unsuccessfully, to hide those visible gaps between pixels with little tricks—but one has to wonder if 4K per eye at 90 fps is even achievable for a 3090. If even an RTX 2080 Super struggles to hit 90 fps in many titles according to recent benchmarks, then the RTX 3060 actually sounds like a total best buy... though, of course, nobody truly knows if upcoming games will push graphical complexity even higher once the 3090 arrives... then again, you can always just dial back the settings, can't you?
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#10 ·
Yeah, looking at the budget right now, the RTX 3060 is definitely the best value play. I doubt it’ll stay that way in two or three months, though. Then again, not everyone can afford to just sit around and wait.
Regarding how complex graphics get, that's not even a question. The main driver behind graphical evolution is hardware with beefed-up capabilities. It isn't really about the difficulty of creating simulated photorealism; the actual challenge is finding hardware capable of rendering it in real time.
And it works the other way, too... Take the legendary Crysis 2007. It came out so demanding that nothing could run it decently. That’s exactly what motivates GPU manufacturers. It's basically a race to see who can grab the market share first. 🙂
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#11 ·
Adam Moore3 said:Yeah, looking at the budget right now, the RTX 3060 is definitely the best value play. I doubt it’ll stay that way in two or three months, though. Then again, not everyone can afford to just sit around and wait.
Regarding how complex graphics get, that's not even a question. The main driver behind graphical evolution is hardware with beefed-up capabilities. It isn't really about the difficulty of creating simulated photorealism; the actual challenge is finding hardware capable of rendering it in real time.
And it works the other way, too... Take the legendary Crysis 2007. It came out so demanding that nothing could run it decently. That’s exactly what motivates GPU manufacturers. It's basically a race to see who can grab the market share first. 🙂

I can't exactly wait another 2-3 months. I've already been waiting a while, and if I keep this up, I'll be waiting forever.😁😁

I'm assuming everything else you listed is solid?

I don't want any issues with overheating, so if there's a case with more fans or whatever, let me know. Aesthetics don't matter to me—I don't need flashy colored cables or anything like that.🙂

How much better is something like a Cooler Master compared to a Fractal Design? I'm not trying to skimp on cooling; I'd rather it be freezing in there if necessary.🙂

Also, does that mean I'll need a beefier power supply?

BTW, can you order a pre-built PC from Micro Center yet, or am I stuck building the whole thing myself... haha.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#12 ·
Adam Moore3 said:Yeah, looking at the budget right now, the RTX 3060 is definitely the best value play. I doubt it’ll stay that way in two or three months, though. Then again, not everyone can afford to just sit around and wait.
Regarding how complex graphics get, that's not even a question. The main driver behind graphical evolution is hardware with beefed-up capabilities. It isn't really about the difficulty of creating simulated photorealism; the actual challenge is finding hardware capable of rendering it in real time.
And it works the other way, too... Take the legendary Crysis 2007. It came out so demanding that nothing could run it decently. That’s exactly what motivates GPU manufacturers. It's basically a race to see who can grab the market share first. 🙂

Also, if you wanted a monitor recommendation, since everything else seems overpriced, 👍

maybe something like this https://www.newegg.com/p/monitor-philips
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#13 ·
I wouldn't suggest those components unless I was certain they were solid enough 😬
The cases you mentioned are definitely an upgrade—better build quality, nicer aesthetics, and higher-end materials—but they’ll hit your wallet harder too.
The Z1 neo comes with three pre-installed fans, so you won't have to worry about overheating, even if the build quality isn't exactly top-tier. If you really want one of the ones you picked, go for it, just keep in mind the price tag will jump. 🙂

I'd personally steer clear of a 27" 1080p monitor. The pixel density is pretty weak, which makes everything look grainy, especially if you're sitting close to the screen. You're better off going with a high-quality 24" instead, like this: KLIK
Ideally, the sweet spot would be a 27" 1440p setup, but that's going to cost quite a bit more: KLIK
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#14 ·
Adam Moore3 said:I wouldn't suggest those components unless I was certain they were solid enough 😬
The cases you mentioned are definitely an upgrade—better build quality, nicer aesthetics, and higher-end materials—but they’ll hit your wallet harder too.
The Z1 neo comes with three pre-installed fans, so you won't have to worry about overheating, even if the build quality isn't exactly top-tier. If you really want one of the ones you picked, go for it, just keep in mind the price tag will jump. 🙂

I'd personally steer clear of a 27" 1080p monitor. The pixel density is pretty weak, which makes everything look grainy, especially if you're sitting close to the screen. You're better off going with a high-quality 24" instead, like this: KLIK
Ideally, the sweet spot would be a 27" 1440p setup, but that's going to cost quite a bit more: KLIK

The real sweet spot is 1440p at 32". Pixel density ends up being pretty much the same as a 23" 1080p.

But let's not jump straight to an expensive monitor. The OP suggested a 1080p 60Hz screen, and you're out here recommending 1440p 144Hz.

You can grab a 32" 1440p 75Hz model for much less cash. I'm using one right now and it's fine.
27" 1440p is for when you need extra detail for work; for gaming? Not necessary.

https://www.amazon.com/monitors/aoc...-16-9-56714371
Adam Moore3 Adam Moore3 Regular
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#15 ·
Personally, I’d never go for those massive monitors for everyday use—you know, just sitting at a desk at a normal distance.

1440p on a 27" looks way sharper than it does on a 32". If you really need an oversized screen, fine, but personally, I think 90% of people would find it overkill for a standard setup. You can get used to it, but I don't think it's worth the hassle.
Since he specifically wanted 1080p, I mainly suggested a decent 24" 1080p 75Hz G-Sync monitor. I still maintain that 1440p is a perfect fit for an RTX 3060, provided you don't jump to a screen larger than 30". Again, assuming you're sitting at a standard distance from the monitor.

There just aren't any high-quality 27" 1440p gaming monitors (looking for 75Hz + G-Sync + low input lag) under $667; they're all just basic office displays—that's why I recommended sticking to 24". That 27" AOC model was just an example of what an ideal match for this build might look like.
wiredotter14 wiredotter14 Regular
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#16 ·
Adam Moore3 said:Personally, I’d never go for those massive monitors for everyday use—you know, just sitting at a desk at a normal distance.

1440p on a 27" looks way sharper than it does on a 32". If you really need an oversized screen, fine, but personally, I think 90% of people would find it overkill for a standard setup. You can get used to it, but I don't think it's worth the hassle.
Since he specifically wanted 1080p, I mainly suggested a decent 24" 1080p 75Hz G-Sync monitor. I still maintain that 1440p is a perfect fit for an RTX 3060, provided you don't jump to a screen larger than 30". Again, assuming you're sitting at a standard distance from the monitor.

There just aren't any high-quality 27" 1440p gaming monitors (looking for 75Hz + G-Sync + low input lag) under $667; they're all just basic office displays—that's why I recommended sticking to 24". That 27" AOC model was just an example of what an ideal match for this build might look like.

1) 1440p on a 32" is basically the same density as 1080p on a 23". It's subjective. It isn't some "problem" you have to adapt to like it's a bad thing.
Sure, you sit a bit further back than you would with a 23" monitor, but that's the whole point. Your eyes don't strain as much when you're further away, and when you lean in, you aren't losing resolution since it's the same as a standard FHD screen.

2) Obviously, you could go for 1440p on a 27" if you want higher pixel density. Personally, "standard" density is enough for me.

3) Points 1 and 2 are preference, but the bottom line is that card isn't meant for 1440p 144Hz gaming, so there's no point in getting the monitor you suggested. On the flip side, 1080p 75Hz is almost too low (depending on what you play).
With that card, 1080p 144Hz or 1440p 75Hz would be the move.

4) Back to your monitor suggestion (the AOC 1440p 144Hz). That's a VA panel, which means it has worse pixel response times than an IPS. VA is better for contrast, not speed.
My 32" 75Hz G-Sync AOC works just fine for gaming. Then again, you could always look for something more gaming-focused, like a 1080p 144Hz model.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#17 ·
After reading through all your takes, I finally pulled the trigger on this monitor

https://www.displaydb.com/monitor/philips-275e1s

$500, 27", 1440p, 75Hz

Turns out 23" was way too small, but 32" felt massive... so I found this middle-ground option. Hopefully, it's decent. 😁

I'm not some hardcore pro gamer or anything. Pretty sure this setup is more than enough for what I need. 🙂
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#18 ·
neonheron9 said:After reading through all your takes, I finally pulled the trigger on this monitor

https://www.displaydb.com/monitor/philips-275e1s

$500, 27", 1440p, 75Hz

Turns out 23" was way too small, but 32" felt massive... so I found this middle-ground option. Hopefully, it's decent. 😁

I'm not some hardcore pro gamer or anything. Pretty sure this setup is more than enough for what I need. 🙂

One person on the forum mentioned they owned this model and complained about the panel quality being poor... Also, would you consider looking into a 144Hz option instead? Since certain games or specific scenes can easily push past 75 fps, relying solely on Vsync might lead to some stuttering—not necessarily screen tearing, but actual stuttering.
neonheron9 neonheron9 Active MemberOP
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#19 ·
wanderingbison9 said:One person on the forum mentioned they owned this model and complained about the panel quality being poor... Also, would you consider looking into a 144Hz option instead? Since certain games or specific scenes can easily push past 75 fps, relying solely on Vsync might lead to some stuttering—not necessarily screen tearing, but actual stuttering.

I saw those complaints on Amazon too. I was going to ignore it, but since you guys are bringing it up, yeah, better to hunt for something else.

Like this one?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=monitor
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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#20 ·
neonheron9 said:I saw those complaints on Amazon too. I was going to ignore it, but since you guys are bringing it up, yeah, better to hunt for something else.

Like this one?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=monitor

It seems decent enough since the curve helps mitigate those viewing angle issues, but it’s missing FreeSync, isn't it?

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